CPI-M flays India-US-Japan ‘alliance’ against China

[jamahir]

So go challenge the idea of 'Islamic republics'.Don't waste time bickering about the ideology a secular democratic country.

1. don't connect islam with reactionary republics like saudia and qatar whose ideology is similar to the sangh.

2. didn't you read my thread[1] about how true islam helped bring rights to millions of indian female citizens, be they hindu or muslims or sikh or indeed christian ( like that article's writer )?? these rights were not part of india's native tradition since 900 bc.

3. why do you describe india as a secular and democratic country?? why should i be repeating these things a hundred times??

4. stop being patronizing by using words like "don't waste time bickering"... you did not answer my post about the number of farmer suicides since bjp took over central administration and also about late farmer gajendra singh.

It is perfectly fine.

bjp would of course be perfectly fine with a global genocider, war criminal and capitalist-imperialist group like nato - "north atlantic terrorist organization".


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[1] prenups in indian weddings and islam

 

[ranjeet]

1. don't connect islam with reactionary republics like saudia and qatar whose ideology is similar to the sangh.

2. didn't you read my thread[1] about how true islam helped bring rights to millions of indian female citizens, be they hindu or muslims or sikh or indeed christian ( like that article's writer )?? these rights were not part of india's native tradition since 900 bc.

3. why do you describe india as a secular and democratic country?? why should i be repeating these things a hundred times??

4. stop being patronizing by using words like "don't waste time bickering"... you did not answer my post about the number of farmer suicides since bjp took over central administration and also about late farmer gajendra singh.



bjp would of course be perfectly fine with a global genocider, war criminal and capitalist-imperialist group like nato - "north atlantic terrorist organization".


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[1] prenups in indian weddings and islam

Why? why try to stick with a dying ideology? Communists will be hounded to the kingdom come.

 

[jamahir]

Why? why try to stick with a dying ideology? Communists will be hounded to the kingdom come.

why would you say it is dying?? if fact, thanks to the sangh's misadventures since 2013, more indians - civilians, activists, intellectuals, intelligentsia, are waking up to the fact that unless they protest, agitate and organize, india will no longer have even a bit of civilization.

and what do you mean by "communists will be hounded"?? the indonesia solution?? why should communist be hounded?? why should someone who speaks of progress and relief from oppression and injustice be hounded??

you didn't answer to my long post in your farmer thread earlier in the day.

 

[Bad Guy]

commies are commies and will support commies, even eroding their nations interest.
CPI-M just once again gave chance to us evil capitalists to humiliate them.

 

[ranjeet]

why would you say it is dying?? if fact, thanks to the sangh's misadventures since 2013, more indians - civilians, activists, intellectuals, intelligentsia, are waking up to the fact that unless they protest, agitate and organize, india will no longer have even a bit of civilization.

and what do you mean by "communists will be hounded"?? the indonesia solution?? why should communist be hounded?? why should someone who speaks of progress and relief from oppression and injustice be hounded??

you didn't answer to my long post in your farmer thread earlier in the day.

I dont know where you get your "ground report" from, someone is feeding you stale information.

 

[dadeechi]

the idea of the nation, the republic, only starts with the french revolution, and that too for bringing down monarchy and feudalism.

in india, the idea of nation has only served to further oppression, indignity, injustice, capitalism and reactionary attitudes... rabindranath tagore spoke of the dangers of nationalism for india.

nation as a idea is obsolete, actually unnatural... humanity is destined to be one scientific, communist organism.

the nation, the state does not matter... what matters are the people within it... if the state ideology is corrupt and unscientific, it must be challenged.

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Idealistically speaking, I agree with you that there should not be any nation states or religions for that matter.

Hence Hinduism says "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" meaning Universal Family.

The fact is Hinduism does not even have a concept of Religion. This was totally alien to the people of India. Only with the spread of Christianity and Islam to India, Hinduism was coined to be a religion.

I strongly believe that it is not the type of government but the people who form the government which matters the most.

On one hand , you could have a King like Ram who symbolizes the idealistic human qualities while on the other you could have a democratically elected person like Hitler who commits genocide.

Now coming back to the concept of Communism, if it was such a better form of government, why did USSR and PRC had problems getting along? Why were they so many communist nations instead of one communist nation?

Also, communism gives further room for nepotism and corruption due to the lack of free press and freedom of expression.

 

[gslv mk3]

1. don't connect islam with reactionary republics like saudia and qatar whose ideology is similar to the sangh.

You can interpret your religion anyway you want and ignore a religious ideology that has millions of Muslims followers,all over the globe.So typical 'moderate muslim'.

Three 'muslim' countries banned public celebration of Christmas.What do you have to say about that ?

2. didn't you read my thread[1] about how true islam helped bring rights to millions of indian female citizens, be they hindu or muslims or sikh or indeed christian ( like that article's writer )?? these rights were not part of india's native tradition since 900 bc.

Nice joke.Stop bragging about the merits of your religion,that would be a dead giveaway-for a Islamist wolf in a socialist sheep's clothing.

3. why do you describe india as a secular and democratic country?? why should i be repeating these things a hundred times??

What else is it ?

bjp would of course be perfectly fine with a global genocider, war criminal and capitalist-imperialist group like nato - "north atlantic terrorist organization".

But you want us to make peace with our genocidal,war criminal neighbours right ?

 

[Ragnar]

Communist parties are awesome.

 

[jamahir]

I dont know where you get your "ground report" from, someone is feeding you stale information.

i didn't understand... which information are you talking of??

Idealistically speaking, I agree with you that there should not be any nation states or religions for that matter.

Hence Hinduism says "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" meaning Universal Family.

then how do you explain the word "mleccha"?? or that motilal nehru was forced by hindu priests to drink diluted cowdung to make penance for the "sin" of visiting a foreign land?? or that the proponents of hindutva/dharmic, the sangh parivar, ideology are staunch enemies of two no-nation religions ( christianity and islam ) and of modern socialism/communism which speaks of kinship beyond national borders and calls for humanity to be one??

The fact is Hinduism does not even have a concept of Religion. This was totally alien to the people of India. Only with the spread of Christianity and Islam to India, Hinduism was coined to be a religion.

so the sangh should have no problems in agreeing to speak against continuation of idolatry and the possibly 2+ million hindu temples in india... they should abandon their work towards ram temple.

I strongly believe that it is not the type of government but the people who form the government which matters the most.

sorry, i didn't understand.

On one hand , you could have a King like Ram who symbolizes the idealistic human qualities

can you explain ram's abandonment of his wife??

Now coming back to the concept of Communism, if it was such a better form of government, why did USSR and PRC had problems getting along? Why were they so many communist nations instead one communist nation?

each "communist" country was a live experiment society with its own localized understanding and adaptation of socialism/communism but all united under a single ideological umbrella because socialism/communism is a very simple-to-understand idea... which is why cuba sitting thousands of kilometers from ussr was still within the progressive bloc... which is why little cuba volunteered tens of thousands of soldiers to fight in angola in southern africa.

if there were disagreements fights between these progressive countries - ussr vs china, iraq vs syria etc, it was because the concept of nationalism was somewhere remaining... this was wrong... let met point out another reason... although the intelligentsia ( the revolutionary vanguard and leadership ) who created these communist/socialist countries were themselves evolved creatures, it was not the case of many of the ordinary public... the ordinary public though largely understanding of the benefits of a socialist/"communist" society, still retained pre-revolution ideas of nationalism and race.

Also, communism gives further room for nepotism and corruption due to the lack of free press and freedom of expression.

ideologically, socialism/communism must lead to true democracy - the people ruling themselves. and people governing themselves should lead to a efficient, scientific society free of corruption and nepotism.

the only society where the people ruled themselves was the libyan jamahirya and even in this unique society some corruption existed... muammar gaddafi was opposed to this stagnation and deviation from revolutionary line... but must be pointed out that even with the corruption, libyan jamahiriya was still a politically-educated society with a social structure that had been affected by socialism whose one side-affect was a drastic lessening of crime... for example, libyan citizens had the right to keep arms, yet libya was not known as a gun-crime society... imagine if guns were a right in a place like india.

 

[dadeechi]

then how do you explain the word "mleccha"??
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You are confusing religion and administration here. The word Mleccha was loosely used to mean many things from geography to citizenship. Each of the kingdoms had their own constitutions. The word is used to refer if the geography or people who comes under the purview of the said jurisdiction or not. The geography and citizenship associated with this word itself was never constant. Finally the word has nothing to do with the religion which itself believes in the concept of Universal Family.

the proponents of hindutva/dharmic, the sangh parivar, ideology are staunch enemies of two no-nation religions ( christianity and islam ) and of modern socialism/communism which speaks of kinship beyond national borders and calls for humanity to be one??
so the sangh should have no problems in agreeing to speak against continuation of idolatry and the possibly 2+ million hindu temples in india... they should abandon their work towards ram temple.

Idol worship is not required in Hinduism. Actually, worship itself is not required. One could just be an atheist.

Ram temple issue is not religious. It is political. It's a reaction to the destruction of Hindu temples by the invaders over the centuries.

Islamic Destruction of Hindu Temples

can you explain ram's abandonment of his wife??
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It exemplifies that people in public life needs to put public interests & sentiments above their love for their family & it's interests

each "communist" country was a live experiment society with its own localized understanding and adaptation of socialism/communism but all united under a single ideological umbrella because socialism/communism is a very simple-to-understand idea... which is why cuba sitting thousands of kilometers from ussr was still within the progressive bloc... which is why little cuba volunteered tens of thousands of soldiers to fight in angola in southern africa.

if there were disagreements fights between these progressive countries - ussr vs china, iraq vs syria etc, it was because the concept of nationalism was somewhere remaining... this was wrong... let met point out another reason... although the intelligentsia ( the revolutionary vanguard and leadership ) who created these communist/socialist countries were themselves evolved creatures, it was not the case of many of the ordinary public... the ordinary public though largely understanding of the benefits of a socialist/"communist" society, still retained pre-revolution ideas of nationalism and race.
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Then why did CPI & CPI(M) split within the same country and same state?

 

[Bad Guy]

@jamahir why supporting communists. You're from an Islamic Republic State.
Communists are worst than jihadis. They are not only responsible for 20 million deaths around the world but also whole strategic stability of world and sovereignty is frequently harmed by them. From those blood monger Chinese to war monger Russians, they keep doing drama for being atheists(not for any scientific reason) thinking that workers are capable of doing every job, considering them thekedar of everything and keep abusing capitalists.
What else is the job of commies?