CPEC Turns into a Chinese Albatross on Pakistan’s neck – Asia Sentinel

[SBUS-CXK]

I don't obfuscate.

The source is your PDF and the Pakistani replies to the discussion. Where they effectively rejoice that 500k jobs will go to Chinese and Pakistanis won't be hired. Because, in their own words, they say your citizens are not up to par to do the job. Not majority of you, not a minority of you not even one of you. The funniest part is they realize that you are paying China to give the jobs to Chinese workers.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/500-000-chinese-professionals-expected-in-gwadar-by-2023.524750/

Chinese workers also work in Boston.

Boston to be first US city to import Chinese subway system

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Fantastic idea.

Then go on the beach and take cruise along the hammer head with David Bowie wailing away .. oh yehhh !

 

[Solomon2]

..If CPEC succeeds - then Pakistan does well economically -

There's no guarantee even if CPEC succeeds that Pakistan will do well economically as a result. Consider the Suez Canal project. The Europeans financed it but eventually Egypt's ruler couldn't pay interest on his loans so the Brits seized his Canal shares as compensation and pretty soon the Brits were running the entire country as well as the Suez Canal while most Egyptians stayed as poor as they were before. Development? Just a few coaling stations at a handful of Egypt's seaports which Egyptians lacked in technology to use themselves.

 

[Laozi]

Yes Pakistan has to repay the loan but on the other hand Pakistan will also get money from the lease plus a 9% earning from China.

Any idea how much lease money China agreed to pay ? Or this is a secret to the people of Pakistan ?

repaying back is easy once CPEC is active cause the Tax collection will be much higher the worlds second largest importer will ship oil and gas from Pakistan

This may come true if China finds this land route more economical over sea route that she is presently using

Chinese will be buying oil from Pakistani fuel stations and that fuel is heavily taxed in Pakistan.

INCREASE taxes on your own people to earn something from Chinese

CPEC will decrease unemployment rate by 15% not because the jobs it will create but because of the new business that will sprung to accommodate it.

I think you missed the OP. Chinese goods will become cheaper and could/would kill the local industries. moreover China will be sending its own workforce.

There will be factories and business that will support the project plus the tourism will flourish.

Small businesses may flourish but boosting tourism will require more than CPEC

Already the land value in Gawadar has increased by 1000% and is bringing in a lot of foreign exchange.

Why Foreign exchange which is coming to Pakistan is not increasing her Foreign reserves

 

[Jackdaws]

There's no guarantee even if CPEC succeeds that Pakistan will do well economically as a result. Consider the Suez Canal project. The Europeans financed it but eventually Egypt's ruler couldn't pay interest on his loans so the Brits seized his Canal shares as compensation and pretty soon the Brits were running the entire country as well as the Suez Canal while most Egyptians stayed as poor as they were before. Development? Just a few coaling stations at a handful of Egypt's seaports which Egyptians lacked in technology to use themselves.

Yes, I considered that - and if I remember correctly, Naseer nationalized the Suez Canal. So what if Pakistan doesn't repay and nationalizes its own assets which are at that point owned by China? Even Castro did it to American assets. Pakistan will then have a new headache in having a foe in China. What does India have to lose?

Chinese workers also work in Boston.

Boston to be first US city to import Chinese subway system

Seriously? That's your analogy? Comparing labor in Boston and in Pakistan?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Pakistan will then have a new headache in having a foe in China.

So any chance Modi can confer Vir Chakra on Xi Jinping? He might deliver Pakistan on a plate to you that the Indian Army has failed in 70 years?

 

[Laozi]

Yehhhh. When the 500,000 Chinese have moved to Gwadar in swanky new city by 2023 I will visit Gwadar and buy a apartment there. Then go enjoy some real Chinese food. Can't wait. I am hoping Cathay Pacific or Chinese Airlines do flights from UK to Gwadar. And I suspect 1,000s of other Brittish-Pakistanis will folow suit.

Great times ahead ...

Do you think with 500000 Chinese moving around, you can have the Islamic feel of being in your country ?

Why not go to Hong Kong and have a great time right now ?

 

[AZ1]

Do you think with 500000 Chinese moving around, you can have the Islamic feel of being in your country ?

Why not go to Hong Kong and have a great time right now ?

Ask your Indian Muslims.

 

[Sugarcane]

If we stop to throw stone on every barking dog then we will not reach destination, keep moving forward steadily.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Do you think with 500000 Chinese moving around, you can have the Islamic feel of being in

Hard work, honesty, being productive, helping the poor, helping the sick is my Islam. And Chinese are number one on these aspects. So yes to China no to open pooping champions.

 

[4GTejasBVR]

No, We need to do business with the Indians!

In a word, Pakistan is the best brother, India is the best customer.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_1_(Mumbai_Metro)

Oh, btw, Delhi metro escalator also comes from the Chinese company - Canny.

http://www.canny-elevator.com/en/new_info.aspx?newsid=956&NewsCateId=168

Differences are that you don't own anything inside these metros. Literally nothing. Not 1 paisa benifits chinese own. And India also exporting metros to Australia and many other things to China and rest of the world.

Dude i never thought CPEC will be disastrous. I knew its fishy in many ways. But duuuuuude u guys need some serious counciling on nationalism and mathematical calculations lessons

Hard work, honesty, being productive, helping the poor, helping the sick is my Islam. And Chinese are number one on these aspects. So yes to China no to open pooping champions.

Hope life was so easy to all citizens living inside Pakistan. Like u nri guys

So any chance Modi can confer Vir Chakra on Xi Jinping? He might deliver Pakistan on a plate to you that the Indian Army has failed in 70 years?

Chinese ways of living is so stupid and so silly. They think they are superior. But the fact is very people are superior race in the world. Even poor Pakistanis won't be a puppet of chinese. May be for white man. Due to our pre independent history. But lol chinese?

 

[Path-Finder]

no matter how many ways it can be said its none of india and its filthy citizens business.

 

[Syed1.]

Do you think with 500000 Chinese moving around, you can have the Islamic feel of being in your country ?

Why not go to Hong Kong and have a great time right now ?

Islamic feel

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Hope life was so easy to all citizens living inside Pakistan

It is my considered opinon the worse slavemaster is poverty - it is the master of hunger, disease, suffering, inequity, the daily varied sufferings that it inflicts on our souls. Go check out the condition of your Dalits or slums. Ask them what sovereignty means. Ask the Pakistan migrant taking gulps of salty Mediteranean Sea as it swallows him what national pride means. A thousand miles from his mother who bore him. A screaming quite death.

It is because our lives are easy that we know what really matters. And it woulf be nice to see it visit millions of my less fortunate people.

 

[HannibalBarca]

It is my considered opinon the worse slavemaster is poverty - it is the master of hunger, disease, suffering, inequity, the daily varied sufferings that it inflicts on our souls. Go check out the condition of you dalits or slums. Ask them what sovereignty means. Ask the Pakistan migrant taking gulps of salty Mediteranean Sea as it swallows him what national pride means. A thousand miles from his mother who bore him.

It is because our lives are easy that we know what really matters. And it woulf be nice to see it visit millions of my less fortunate people.

for me it's Ignorance...
Since the prism of poverty around the world is not equal neither his scale in some modern society ( even before tbh)
But here a Q I wanted to ask... Can you give me the top 3 sins of Ibliss? it's just a Q that i want to put in percepective with mine.