CPEC row: Congress calls on PM Modi to question China over ‘threat’

[MilSpec]

I have already questioned your credentials in GHQ for the same reason (you are a TTA and you don't read the thread before sharing your views?). I don't wish to further engage you on this.

There is no mandate for me to go through every post in every thread, anyways feel free to complain as much as you want. You were in clear violation of the forum guidelines. If you have a problem with a post, there is a report button, if you want to go down in mudslinging and I come across such post I WILL RATE. You are free to complain to the mods, trust me you won't be the first or the last. Foul posts here are a dime-a-dozen, your's is no special.

@Irfan Baloch @Horus

 

[I.R.A]

There is no mandate for me to go through every post in every thread, anyways feel free to complain as much as you want. You were in clear violation of the forum guidelines. If you have a problem with a post, there is a report button, if you want to go down in mudslinging and I come across such post I WILL RATE. You are free to complain to the mods, trust me you won't be the first or the last. Foul posts here are a dime-a-dozen, your's is no special.

@Irfan Baloch @Horus

I told you already don't wish to engage you further on this .......... and I believe I already advised you not to resist, see what happens when you resist you write lengthy paragraphs trying to tell other that he is no one and you are someone.

If you still wish to continue pray do highlight a single abusive word in my original post, heck its even better than your sitting Minister's statement ........... too bad you had to protest on mine and ignore Indian sh*tty statements.

India will have to take CPEC, its up to them how they want to take it ....... laying down, standing or sitting, there is no escape and no end to it........... Better not resist .......... it will hurt more because we aren't using any lubricants. Take it slowly and easily it would still hurt but once done you will enjoy it. Or to make it more easy to understand in language that is better understood in your part of the region "if you cannot stop it then enjoy it" Samaj to gay he ho gay ............


@Sinopakfriend is there any Chinese remedy that can help soothe the pain?

Not Impressed.

 

[MilSpec]

I told you already don't wish to engage you further on this .......... and I believe I already advised you not to resist, see what happens when you resist you write lengthy paragraphs trying to tell other that he is no one and you are someone.

If you still wish to continue pray do highlight a single abusive word in my original post, heck its even better than your sitting Minister's statement ........... too bad you had to protest on mine and ignore Indian sh*tty statements.



Not Impressed.

replace India with say Pakistan, or your family member, you still dont find your post abusive? I have dealt with more trolls than you can imagine, try playing these wordplay nonsense with someone else.

 

[Arsalan]

CPEC is nothing, India have nothing to do with CPEC.
Indian members at PDF.

India should stop losing its sleep over this.

 

[HttpError]

Seriously it is hilarious Baniyas are just going wackos, All Pakistan now has to do is just internationalize Khalistan issue and Bang.

Seriously Pakistan should now declare open support for Khalistan and see what happens.

 

[footmarks]

Seriously it is hilarious Baniyas are just going wackos, All Pakistan now has to do is just internationalize Khalistan issue and Bang.

Seriously Pakistan should now declare open support for Khalistan and see what happens.

Problem is that - pakistan has such a reputation world over, that whatever cause you support, is bound to fail. Khud khalistan ke supporter support karna chhod denge, just to dissociate themselves from anything related to pakistan

 

[HttpError]

Problem is that - pakistan has such a reputation world over, that whatever cause you support, is bound to fail. Khud khalistan ke supporter support karna chhod denge, just to dissociate themselves from anything related to pakistan

But there shouldn't be any problem even with a failed attempt right ? lol Ok we will still go ahead with it.

 

[wiseone2]

Is Mukti Bahini, which India supported, terrorist? If not, then how can one consider these freedom loving separatist leaders terrorist?

You are obviously confused in your own jingoism.

The leaders of the Mukti Bahini are Bengali speaking personnel of the Pakistani army, paramilitary and police. you can call them terrorist. But West Pakistani elite created the whole mess.

Keep getting high on misinformation and brainwashing being fed to you by your media, CPEC will go in full swing and so will the regional economic integration of Central and South Asia. Your right wing regime can do nothing other than to learn to live with it !!!

there is no economic integration of South Asia without India in it

 

[tore]

World Sindhi Congress Chairman Laku Luhana told ANI that the CPEC was not an economic project, but rather a matter of life and death for the Baloch and the Sindhis.

With a think tank from Beijing stating that China would have to get involved if India threatens the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) in Balochistan, theCongress on Monday called on Prime Minister Narendra Modi to question the Chinese Government over the ‘meaning’ behind the warning.

Speaking to ANI here, Congress leader Manish Tewari said that if ultimately the CPEC is going to threaten India, then the Centre needs to stand up to it.

“PM Modi should ask the Chinese that what exactly do they mean by ‘intervene’. After all, the think tank which has written this article is closely related with the Chinese state and the Chinese establishment. So PM Modi should ask the Chinese government that what the meaning of this threat is,” he said.

Earlier, the director of the Institute of South and Southeast Asian and Oceanian Studies at the China Institute of Contemporary International Relations (CICIR) revealed that Prime Minister Modi’s reference to Balochistan in his Independence Day address is the latest concern for China.

Stating that China fears India may use “anti-government” elements in Balochistan where Beijing is building the $46 billion project, the director stated that if the ‘plot’ causes any damage to the CPEC, then they will have to get involved.

Meanwhile, Baloch and Sindhi leaders held a joint protest against the ongoing CPEC in Balochistan outside the Chinese Embassy in London.

They claimed that thousands of people were displaced to facilitate a wide array of projects under the CPEC without a proper plan of rehabilitation or providing any compensation.

World Sindhi Congress Chairman Laku Luhana told ANI that the CPEC was not an economic project, but rather a matter of life and death for the Baloch and the Sindhis.

“It is a project of capture on our land and coastal lines. This is not an economic project. It is a matter of life and death for the Baloch and the Sindhis. We will never agree to this project,” he added.

The USD 46 billion economic pact has been projected as a major boost for the economy by the Pakistan government, but locals in Balochistan say they have not benefited one bit from the CPEC.
Source: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/balochistan-activists-cpec-row-congress-calls-on-pm-modi-to-question-china-over-threat-3001786/

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World Sindhi Congress, i never heard about this organization in my whole life, not single time in news, media or presence in Sindh. Looks like dummy for India.

 

[ghazi768]

Well now, even simple comprehension is suspect...
And I don't really blame you, good terrorist, bad terrorist is a key feature for Planet Pakistan.

"Good freedom" struggle in an undisputed/uncontested territory of a neighbouring state and a "bad freedom" struggle in a territory recognised by all parties as disputed is also key feature of Planet India.

 

[GenerallyKhan]

Looks like you conveniently ignored the part of recognizing Bangladesh as a Sovereign state? If Mukti Bahini was a terror organisation, why would you recognize the state?

and

During its time in power, the Taliban regime, or "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan", gained diplomatic recognition from only three states: the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, all of which provided substantial aid. The other nations including the United Nations recognized the government of the Islamic State of Afghanistan (parts of whom were part of the United Front (Northern Alliance) as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.

"Looks like you conveniently ignored the part" that your arbitrary definition of what may or may not constitute as separatist is a matter of personal taste, not an international standard. Again, Mandela participated in military action so does not fit your narrow definition of a separatist leader. In his famous speech 'I Am Prepared to Die', he said:

-- The time comes in the life of any nation when there remain only two choices – submit or fight. That time has now come to South Africa. We shall not submit and we have no choice but to hit back by all means in our power in defence of our people, our future, and our freedom.

As for Bangladesh, the fact that we recognised them only strengthens my point that Burhan Wani is a separatist leader. We recognise them, we recognise Burhan Wani.

Again, Taliban are not even being denounced as "terrorist" by White House anymore.

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World Sindhi Congress, i never heard about this organization in my whole life, not single time in news, media or presence in Sindh. Looks like dummy for India.

The fact that only Indian newspapers are listening to this specific, otherwise unknown organization tells you everything you need to know.

 

[MilSpec]

As for Bangladesh, the fact that we recognised them only strengthens my point that Burhan Wani is a separatist leader. We recognise them, we recognise Burhan Wani.

Again, Taliban are not even being denounced as "terrorist" by White House anymore

Ok, lets explore this.

1> So your contention is you along with every other country in the world recognized bangladesh despite of it being formed by terrorist entity called Mukti Bahini. Doesn't that give legitimacy to the same organisation that you claim are supposedly a terror organisation?

2> Your second contention is local commander of a terror organisation - recognized as a terror organisation by US, UK, EU and India rather than being a terrorist is a Separatist leader? So your government does differ with US, UK and the EU in defining a terror organisation

3> Was Taliban government recognized by US/UK/Euro/China? All major countries even recognised Saddam and Gaddhafi, but not Mullah Omar? Why. On the same note all of them recognized the Bangladesh, why?

Is it possible your narrative lies in a different Planet?

 

[GenerallyKhan]

Ok, lets explore this.

1> So your contention is you along with every other country in the world recognized bangladesh despite of it being formed by terrorist entity called Mukti Bahini. Doesn't that give legitimacy to the same organisation that you claim are supposedly a terror organisation?

2> Your second contention is local commander of a terror organisation - recognized as a terror organisation by US, UK, EU and India rather than being a terrorist is a Separatist leader? So your government does differ with US, UK and the EU in defining a terror organisation

3> Was Taliban government recognized by US/UK/Euro/China? All major countries even recognised Saddam and Gaddhafi, but not Mullah Omar? Why. On the same note all of them recognized the Bangladesh, why?

Is it possible your narrative lies in a different Planet?

Once again, "your arbitrary definition of what may or may not constitute as separatist leader is a matter of personal taste, not an international standard."

What is your rebuttal?

1. Not quite. You're limiting Bangladesh to Mukti Bahini. I see Bangladesh as it is: a country encompassing rich and complex diversity.

2. I'm pointing to sources in media that have called Burhan Wani a separatist leader. I will reiterate my main contention that is: merely because US, UK, EU, or India label a person "terrorist" does not say much. Mandela was labelled terrorist and he ending up addressing the French National Assembly. That's a huge honour if you know the importance of it.

3. Again, you're limiting yourself. Presently, Taliban are travelling to China and Qatar. US doesn't even see them as "terrorist".

My narrative is actually nuanced, neutral and respects the diversity of opinion. Its the governments labeling Nelson Mandela, or Burhan Wani, a terrorist that are pushing an agenda. Me? I'm only respecting the pluralist nature of truth. You may view it as anekāntavāda.

 

[MilSpec]

Once again, "your arbitrary definition of what may or may not constitute as separatist leader is a matter of personal taste, not an international standard."

What is your rebuttal?

1. Not quite. You're limiting Bangladesh to Mukti Bahini. I see Bangladesh as it is: a country encompassing rich and complex diversity.

Who formed Bangladesh?

2. I'm pointing to sources in media that have called Burhan Wani a separatist leader. I will reiterate my main contention that is: merely because US, UK, EU, or India label a person "terrorist" does not say much. Mandela was labelled terrorist and he ending up addressing the French National Assembly. That's a huge honour if you know the importance of it.

Which source? Who labelled Mandela as a terrorist,
If anything the Aprthied Regime was heavily sanctioned
On 7 August 1963 the United Nations Security Council passed Resolution 181, calling for a voluntary arms embargo against South Africa. In the same year a Special Committee Against Apartheid was established to encourage and oversee plans of action against the regime. From 1964 the US and Britain discontinued their arms trade with South Africa. The Security Council also condemned the Soweto massacre in Resolution 392. In 1977, the voluntary UN arms embargo became mandatory with the passing of Resolution 418.
Economic sanctions against South Africa were also frequently debated as an effective way of putting pressure on the apartheid government. In 1962, the UN General Assembly requested that its members sever political, fiscal and transportation ties with South Africa. In 1968, it proposed ending all cultural, educational and sporting connections as well. Economic sanctions, however, were not made mandatory, because of opposition from South Africa's main trading partners.
In 1973, the UN adopted the Apartheid Convention which defines apartheid and even qualifies it as a crime against humanity which might lead to international criminal prosecution of the individuals responsible for perpetrating it.

By your standard, I am sure even OBL wasn't a terrorist, right?

3. Again, you're limiting yourself. Presently, Taliban are travelling to China and Qatar. US doesn't even see them as "terrorist".

Did US/UK/China/EU (rest of the civilized world for that matter) recognize Taliban government when KSA/Pak/UAE did?

 

[GenerallyKhan]

Who formed Bangladesh?

I imagine it would be great many people.

Which source?

Have you not read my previous posts?

Did US/UK/China/EU recognize Taliban government when KSA/Pak/UAE did?

I quote:

> You are limiting yourself. Presently, Taliban are travelling to China and Qatar. US doesn't even see them as "terrorist".