CPEC: Duty-Free Imports of vehicles from China eating into local assemblers’ share!

[livingdead]

Islam

lol .. I mean onion.. cement.. mangoes.. cotton, packaged ready to eat biryani (ok last one I made up)..

 

[Naeem A.]

I love the line:

That is geopolitical imperatives.

On the other hand, healthy competition is always a good thing.
Recently I saw a news about a chambers of commerce meeting where they were lamenting that the Chinese imports will ruin the local industry.
I believe it is a genuine concern. On the other hand, a lot of our industries export good to other countries. Our leather products, surgical instruments, cutlery, sports goods, Chonsa mango, rice are doing great business despite competition from China & India in the world market.
If we overcome the energy shortage due to Chinese investment. Our industries will produce 4 times their current capacity. Cottage industries in cities like Gujranwala, Gujrat, Sialkot, Wazirabad will start booming again. People of these cities already know how to install plants at home and produce things. These plants were mostly shut down because of energy crisis.
In short, I suppose our industry won't go under. Instead, there's a strong probability it will start flourishing.

lol .. I mean onion.. cement.. mangoes.. cotton, packaged ready to eat biryani (ok last one I made up)..

Dude... forget ready to eat biryani... our biscuits are awesome, and we export boatloads to the Middle East. BTW Biryani will be too complicated but I've been thinking about a ready to microwave omelette recipe lately. Maybe that too will do

 

[Indus Pakistan]

packaged ready to eat

Biryani is Indian, so that is out. Cement is too heavy to carry. Onions not sure, the Chinese grow plenty of onions. Mangoes, they are sweet and anything sweet you eat. Not export. So where do we stand? Islamic science, Islamic maths, Islamic knowledge, Islamic culture and Islamic way of doing things so that the 'kuffar' Chinese can make progress.

So there ...

*It's friday and I am shatterd. Still have to do my 4 miles jog and it's dark. So some light hearted comments are in order.

 

[livingdead]

I love the line:

On the other hand, healthy competition is always a good thing.
Recently I saw a news about a chambers of commerce meeting where they were lamenting that the Chinese imports will ruin the local industry.
I believe it is a genuine concern. On the other hand, a lot of our industries export good to other countries. Our leather products, surgical instruments, cutlery, sports goods, Chonsa mango, rice are doing great business despite competition from China & India in the world market.
If we overcome the energy shortage due to Chinese investment. Our industries will produce 4 times their current capacity. Cottage industries in cities like Gujranwala, Gujrat, Sialkot, Wazirabad will start booming again. People of these cities already know how to install plants at home and produce things. These plants were mostly shut down because of energy crisis.
In short, I suppose our industry won't go under. Instead, there's a strong probability it will start flourishing.


Dude... forget ready to eat biryani... our biscuits are awesome, and we export boatloads to the Middle East. BTW Biryani will be too complicated but I've been thinking about a ready to microwave omelette recipe lately. Maybe that too will do

microwave omlette? dude, you are going to be a legend among college kids...

 

[Naeem A.]

Biryani is Indian *****

Take a chill pill mate. Go out for the jog, you'll be entirely chilled(if you're not in Karachi).

 

[RealNapster]

Islam

we are not even good at that.

 

[Naeem A.]

microwave omlette? dude, you are going to be a legend among college kids...

Yeah, and another variant for working moms. Easy to fry... Just heat the oil, open the packet and put the stuff in there... Your fully nutritious meal ready in 1 minute... Faster than Magi :p ...

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Take a chill pill mate. Go out for the jog, you'll be entirely chilled(if you're not in Karachi).

I am already chilled, mate. But I guess few miles in the cold will chill me more.

we are not even good at that

Extreme caution. You are very, very near blasphemy territory.

 

[Peshwa]

Biryani is Indian, so that is out. Cement is too heavy to carry. Onions not sure, the Chinese grow plenty of onions. Mangoes, they are sweet and anything sweet you eat. Not export. So where do stand? Islamic science, Islamic maths, Islamic knowledge, Islamic culture and Islamic way of doing things so that the 'kuffar' Chinese can make progress.

So there ...

Sports equipment. In my younger years in India, I was gifted a bat made in Sialkot. probably one of the better bats I used in my kit playing for my school team.
Also, aren't 60% of soccer balls used in the world made in Pak?
Now I get that this is a very niche industry, but just wanted to point out an area that can be expanded and developed with the right investment.
Also, if trade with India can be opened up, one need not bank on "outsiders" to develop industry. India itself is a huge enough market to help Pakistan improve its exports. Of course the same is vice versa, but at least you won't be competing against a manufacturing hub like china which will not do much for Pak exports. The trade gap with India will at least be manageable compared to china.
Pharma is another area of growth Pakistan should get into, that India can help with greatly.

 

[RealNapster]

Extreme caution. You are very, very near blasphemy territory.

i sometimes touch that line by criticizing CPEC. as it's the new blasphemy here.

Sports equipment. In my younger years in India, I was gifted a bat made in Sialkot. probably one of the better bats I used in my kit playing for my school team.
Also, aren't 60% of soccer balls used in the world made in Pak?
Now I get that this is a very niche industry, but just wanted to point out an area that can be expanded and developed with the right investment.
Also, if trade with India can be opened up, one need not bank on "outsiders" to develop industry. India itself is a huge enough market to help Pakistan improve its exports. Of course the same is vice versa, but at least you won't be competing against a manufacturing hub like china which will not do much for Pak exports. The trade gap with India will at least be manageable compared to china.
Pharma is another area of growth Pakistan should get into, that India can help with greatly.

Valid Points.

another thing you missed are surgical equipment's.

 

[Lagay Raho]

**** the heavy vehicles companies in pakistan, they are selling Hino FM2P for over 1,26,00,000 PKr for just this machine,it has 320 horsepower with same old options in interior

i bought this Chinese baby for only 70,00,000 with 340 horsepower with way more luxury options inside

Both can do the same amount of work and make the same amount of money

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Nice vehicles coming into Pakistan look great, very standard design

Suprised there is no sleeping cabin in these Trucks as per modern designs for such long distance vehicles

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Sports equipment

Frankly, we havre a problem and I thank this runs in India as well. That is about quality. We as a nation do not appreciate quality. When ever I go to Pakistan the first thing that strikes my how everything is shoddy. It's like nothing is perfect. The lightposts are slightly askew, the roads are uneven, the houses are badly designed, even new things are there but not quite 100%. I think this is because of the protectedso called industries and a monopoly that has cut the country off from the global currents.

My opinion is or rather I hope that CPEC will be open the gates that will turn into flood of Chinese goods that will kill off the unproductive or those who can't compete. Post that new grass will grow, vigorous and healthy that is able to flourish in a competetive enivironment. Down the road the Chinese will go into JVs and even shift some units to Pakistan. Chinese are here to stay. They not a one day wonder. They think long term and will not let the chicken die because it lays the eggs. By shifting some units to Pak they will assure a healthy market for their products. Any way got to go stretch my legs ..

 

[Peshwa]

Valid Points.

another thing you missed are surgical equipment's.

True! But again, you will be competing with the Chinese in that area.
outside of areas where Pak has an expertise, say textiles, cement and sports equipment, future focus has to be on regulated markets and areas where Chinese don't do well. ESP ones that have high level of IP protection. That's why I suggested Pharma. The US generic market is dominated by India purely because it is a "safer" bet than china in terms of quality and IP protection. China dominates the non regulated market nonetheless.

Also services. The advertising and creative talent in Pakistan is quite good, but underdeveloped. "Creative outsourcing" has become the norm, esp in advertising and online gaming. Those are definitely areas where Pakistan can have an edge, though india has been well established in the area for a while. But the creative industry is never ending and economy proof just like Pharma. Hence focus should be on such sectors.

Let's not forget that Pakistan unlike India has not fully utilized the English language advantage. There is a lot of room to grow and the ceilings are high.
Improved relations and trade with India are beneficial to both countries.

Frankly, we havre a problem and I thank this runs in India as well. That is about quality. We as a nation do not appreciate quality. When ever I go to Pakistan the first thing that strikes my how everything is shoddy. It's like nothing is perfect. The lightposts are slightly askew, the roads are uneven, the houses are badly designed, even new things are there but not quite 100%. I think this is because of the protectedso called industries and a monopoly that has cut the country off from the global currents.

My opinion is or rather I hope that CPEC will be open the gates that will turn into flood of Chinese goods that will kill off the unproductive or those who can't compete. Post that new grass will grow, vigorous and healthy that is able to flourish in a competetive enivironment. Down the road the Chinese will go into JVs and even shift some units to Pakistan. Chinese are here to stay. They not a one day wonder. They think long term and will not let the chicken die because it lays the eggs. By shifting some units to Pak they will assure a healthy market for their products. Any way got to go stretch my legs ..

No offense, but you want to replace one shoddy workmanship with another?
Chinese aren't exactly known for their quality either. So that's not exactly the solution to the problem of "takladoon" stuff. Yes, it will definitely boost the economy in terms of production, but will not elevate Pakistan to the quality manufacturer, the likes of Germany that we at least in India aim to be like.

 

[Mo12]

Biryani is Indian, so that is out. Cement is too heavy to carry. Onions not sure, the Chinese grow plenty of onions. Mangoes, they are sweet and anything sweet you eat. Not export. So where do we stand? Islamic science, Islamic maths, Islamic knowledge, Islamic culture and Islamic way of doing things so that the 'kuffar' Chinese can make progress.

So there ...

*It's friday and I am shatterd. Still have to do my 4 miles jog and it's dark. So some light hearted comments are in order.

Religion will be tough to export to a mainly atheist nation, but if anyone can...