CPEC : Centre of the World

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So the word CPEC is officially proven to work on Indians in similar manner, as salt does on open wounds.

CPEC, Kashmir, Khalistan, LCA, etc..... all words that give indian, a$$burn.

Cool down. I know, being a pakistani how much insult you have to face everyday. My sympathies are with you.

 

[Pakistan First]

Khalistan includes Pakistani punjab too.. may you are too dumb to understand that..

Ooo, we are very clear on Khalistan. Don't you worry.

Cool down. I know, being a pakistani how much insult you have to face everyday. My sympathies are with you.

Meri jaan, the biggest insult is on you indians who are so obsessed by Pakistanis and anything Pakistani that you spend all day and night here on a PAKISTANI Defence forum. LMAO!
Accept it. You simply adore anything Pakistani.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

.....I m loving all CPEC saga.....Let me check on which date we signed this agreement...I have never seen Pakistanis so excited...Now, Pakistanis are unstoppable. They won't rest unless they capitalize on their geography and make themselves an important nod of OBOR initiative....a massive trading hub.

An american analyst once said: History may be unfair to Pakistan but geography always stood with it...I think he was referring to Pakistan's strategic importance which now is about to shine....In Sha Allah...

 

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Ooo, we are very clear on Khalistan. Don't you worry.


Meri jaan, the biggest insult is on you indians who are so obsessed by Pakistanis and anything Pakistani that you spend all day and night here on a PAKISTANI Defence forum. LMAO!
Accept it. You simply adore anything Pakistani.

Now that IS an insult. Alleging that you are obssessed with Pakistan, is like worst insult you can do to anyone.

 

[Pakistan First]

Alleging? The rat infestation on our PAKISTANI forum is UNDENIABLE PROOF of Indian obsession with anything PAKISTANI.

Now that IS an insult. Alleging that you are obssessed with Pakistan, is like worst insult you can do to anyone.

 

[G0dfather]

Khalistan includes Pakistani punjab too.. may you are too dumb to understand that..

They are ready to chop off their own hand just to see India bleed.

 

[OrionHunter]

An investment by China for $35 billion and the rest $11 billion taken as loan by Pakistan from the Chinese for the CPEC is resulting in orgasms! One dude, senator Abidi even mentioned that with the $46 billion CPEC, rivers of gold will soon flow in Pakistan making it the next world super power! Lol!

Check out India's $90 billion investment in the Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor which puts the CPEC in the shade! But no one brags and shouts from the rooftops like our Pakistani friends are doing with the CPEC!

If they think that the $46 billion investment is going to bring rivers of gold into Pakistan and make it a super power, then how about India's Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor that is almost double the CPEC outlay at a whopping $90 billion?

A word about the Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor especially for the likes of Abidi and his ilk.....

Conceived as a global manufacturing and trading hub, the $90 billion DMIC project is expected to double employment potential, triple industrial output and quadruple exports from the region in five years. The total employment to be generated from the project is 3 million, the bulk of which will be in the manufacturing/processing sectors.

The project initially aims to create seven smart cities distributed along the backbone of the dedicated freight corridor between Delhi and Mumbai.

Nuff said!

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I hope all of those claims come true, however unlikely they may be in reality.

Instead just stating they are "unlikely they may be in reality" why not expand and give reasoned analysis? Yo may be even be right but if your going to shoot this thing why not give the reaons why? That way we can get to grips with things. In fact you migt be doing good by being 2devils advocate" but your not being that. You just walk in the room with a sour look, dismiss with almost air of nonchalence. That's not very productive is it?

Why not give enumerated list of the reasons please why you think this won't go anywhere?

 

[Pakistan First]

An investment by China for $35 billion and the rest $11 billion taken as loan by Pakistan from the Chinese for the CPEC is resulting in orgasms! One dude, senator Abidi even mentioned that with the $46 billion CPEC, rivers of gold will soon flow in Pakistan making it the next world super power! Lol!

Check out India's $90 billion investment in the Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor which puts the CPEC in the shade! But no one brags and shouts from the rooftops like our Pakistani friends are doing with the CPEC!

If they think that the $46 billion investment is going to bring rivers of gold into Pakistan and make it a super power, then how about India's Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor that is almost double the CPEC outlay at a whopping $90 billion?

A word about the Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor especially for the likes of Abidi and his ilk.....

Conceived as a global manufacturing and trading hub, the $90 billion DMIC project is expected to double employment potential, triple industrial output and quadruple exports from the region in five years. The total employment to be generated from the project is 3 million, the bulk of which will be in the manufacturing/processing sectors.

The project initially aims to create seven smart cities distributed along the backbone of the dedicated freight corridor between Delhi and Mumbai.

Nuff said!

Kudos on the DMIC. I don't see any Pakistani downplaying it or comparing it with CPEC. Your post above shows the level of inferiority complex you're experiencing.

I don't understand why Indians are getting a$$burns whenever Pakistanis on PDF are rejoicing on anything good that's happening to it's nation. Goes to show what Indians feel about Pakistan.

I wonder why we allow such complex-driven immigrants on our forum who simply can't swallow PAKISTANIs rejoicing on a PAKISTANI forum, rather, they infest the forum with their hatred towards PAKISTANIs.

With all humility and politeness, on behalf of all PAKISTANIs on PDF, I have this message for all indians who just can't swallow Pakistan's success and can't see Pakistani's rejoicing, "F*** OFF. WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK OR FEEL. WE ARE BUSY".

 

[Super Falcon]

From the hype generated by Pakistani media,it seems like CPEC is bigger than Suez Canal+Panama Canal combined

It is bigger than both as it goes operational it saves time and money to most of ships traveling to Asia and out of Asia top of it. Balouchistan heaven of natural resources also bring more ships to gwadar and in future Russia turkey also shown interest to connect themselves to worlds largest economy through CPEC so they enjoy their piece of cake in multilateral trade

 

[Scharfschütze]

From the hype generated by Pakistani media,it seems like CPEC is bigger than Suez Canal+Panama Canal combined

This is so huge and burning indian assess already... one can imagine Indians committing suicides and rapes when it comes to reality...

So the word CPEC is officially proven to work on Indians in similar manner, as salt does on open wounds.

CPEC, Kashmir, Khalistan, LCA, etc..... all words that give indian, a$$burn.

CPEC CPEC CPEC...

 

[illusion8]

Instead just stating they are "unlikely they may be in reality" why not expand and give reasoned analysis? Yo may be even be right but if your going to shoot this thing why not give the reaons why? That way we can get to grips with things. In fact you migt be doing good by being 2devils advocate" but your not being that. You just walk in the room with a sour look, dismiss with almost air of nonchalence. That's not very productive is it?

Why not give enumerated list of the reasons please why you think this won't go anywhere?

Sorry for barging in.

The reasoning behind the hype of cpec is understandable - pakistan hasn't seen something so big before. The logical thinking would be that it is one part of the Chinese road and rail building frenzy around the world.

The fallacy of calling it the center of the world, and much bigger than dubai or rivers of gold or it will become the center of all economic activity is a bit over the top. Praising it is all good to the extent of Pakistan, but the world economies executes and plans similar or bigger projects on a regular basis.

Logically thinking, cpec could be the best thing that would happen to man kind and the world will converge to invest and take advantage of it...hypothetically.

But, if one thinks about it...The reality also is that the advanced economies have made their trillions and are now at a saturation level without taking advantage of this magical golden route. The upcoming economies - the Chinese, the Indians have made trillions without taking advantage of this golden route. So its true that the world will still make their trillions without the magical cpec.

I personally feel that We are at the fag end of the world economy, where everything from consumption to production to resources to markets have hit saturation levels. We are also through the industrial revolution, oil revolution, digital revolution...etc etc. The world is 7 billion heavy and most likely will see just conflicts everywhere.

 

[My-Analogous]

From the hype generated by Pakistani media,it seems like CPEC is bigger than Suez Canal+Panama Canal combined

No charbar have that honour

 

[ebrahym]

The China Pakistan Economic Corridor runs through one of the most important and central geo-strategic locations in South Asia.
Gwadar is the largest and deepest sea port in this part of the world, its natural layout and depth enables largest tonnage ships to dock there, a characteristic which is absent in Dubai and Chahbahar ports.


The projects encompassing the CPEC are worth $46 billion initially, it is the largest investment by China in a foreign country, this amount is equal to a fifth of Pakistan’s GDP and more than twice the total amount of direct foreign investment here since 2008.
The plan is to use 35 to 38 billion US dollars on energy projects and the rest on development of infrastructure, according to a report placed on the website of China’s State Council Information Office.
It specifies $11.6 billion allocated for the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, $11.5 billion in Sindh, $ 7.1 billion in Balochistan and $ 6.9 billion in Punjab.
Gilgit Baltistan is the gateway of CPEC, projects to address energy issues are already in progress there.


Lesser developed areas of Punjab, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan are also getting linked with the CPEC road network while Gwadar port will help decrease the congestion faced by Karachi Port which faces a glut of commercial, civil and military shipping, also ending the possibility of any naval blockade of Karachi port by India.
Any future issues between provinces regarding benefits and resources can be resolved by the Council of Common Interest, so that aspect is under control now.
The current elected government is elated with the prospect of taking the credit for CPEC in the coming elections in 2018.
The downside is that the general Pakistani public has little access to details of the project, more specifics regarding the CPEC need to be shared, Chinese firms are mostly involved in the execution and funding is arranged from EXIM bank and the Silk Road Fund.
The latest World Bank report evaluated Pakistan's economy with positive growth following the CPEC investment.


Chinese products and goods will flood Pakistani markets due to heightened accessibility, Pakistan needs to keep good quality standards to continue its trade unhindered.
The CPEC would generate thousands of jobs and revenue worth billions of dollars for both countries, it would also provide Pakistan with essential infrastructure, energy investment and development.
It is important that both China and Pakistan make sure that Balochi companies and workers play a prominent role and feel involved in the development project, locals should not feel that the demographics of the province will be affected.
A special security force comprising of 10,000 personnel will soon become completely operational from Gwadar to Karakoram Highway, to make sure that no unruly elements try to disrupt the project.


Gwadar is perceived as part of China’s 'String of Pearls' naval strategy and its most important strategic gambit.
China’s US$ 5 trillion worth sea-borne trade plies via the South China Sea where the Straits of Malacca become a choke point, Gwadar provides it the alternative trade route for the Gulf regions via the Arabian Sea, shorter and cost-efficient, it provides China an inter-connected infrastructure network to link its economy with the rest of the world, Chinese goods would now come down a 3000 km route to reach the warm waters of Gwadar.


CPEC is said to provide China the clout it needed to counter the U.S. agenda of 'Pivot to Asia' , traditional key players for containing the Dragon on behalf of the U.S are Japan, Indonesia, Singapore and India.
In this scenario, Pakistan emerges as a major player that can balance superpower rivalries and promote trade co-operation.
China-Pakistan relations have a particular synergy lacking in most strategic partnerships in the region, Beijing supports Pakistan’s military ambitions and perpetually blocks Indian efforts to be member of UN Security Council, NSG etc.



India has been keenly watching the progress of CPEC, looking for opportunities to subvert it as it fears encirclement by China and Pakistan, it views CPEC as a mega-scale naval mobilization program that threaten its security and puts global sea lanes at risk.
India worries as China invests in a new batch of nuclear reactors for Pakistan, giving it a total power capacity of 7,930 MW by 2030, it feels like China is moving next door to safeguard its $46 billion investment.
If viewed from the Indian perspective, CPEC looks like an ominous pact between two of its biggest enemies, it tried to counter the threat by investing in the Iranian port of Chahbahar which lacks the location, facilities and capacity offered by Gwadar.

Chahbahar’ s maximum planned capacity is only 10 to 12 million tons a year, it also cannot provide a safe passage for trade through Afghanistan as it remains in turmoil.


In 2016, Gwadar had a total traffic of half a million tons cargo which is expected to double in 2017, at completion it will handle 300 to 400 tons per annum and will be a city of 2 million residents according to planners.
All of India's 212 ports handle 500 million tons a year while Long Beach, America's largest port handles 80 million tons a year which is just 20% of the Gwadar port capacity.


India wants to deny Pakistan the advantage of its geo-strategic location, recently an Indian naval officer Kulbhushan Yadav was caught running terrorist cells within Pakistan.
Impervious to Indian objectives, Iran could have a $100 billion worth of energy deals with China in the near future, there is also a proposal to link the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline with China.

The importance of CPEC to China makes any Indian sub-conventional response very risky, India may not be able to handle the backlash from China.



The general perception is that Pakistan's relations with the U.S. will deteriorate due to the CPEC, U.S. investors have pulled out $71.9 million in the last 11 months whereas U.S. investment amounted to $197.1 million in the previous year, this is just one of the indicators of its displeasure, nowadays Pak-U.S. relations lack enthusiasm.

China increased its investment even more to cover the loss as other investors pulled out, EXIM bank is to pitch in $20 million for the Nawabshah - Sanghar road, it offset the decrease in investments from the rest of the world.

The CPEC has global trade implications, Pakistan must secure it's strategic and economic interests and learn how to balance the two major powers, U.S. and China, without upsetting the apple cart.
In the last 13 years, the U.S. gave Pakistan about $10.5 billion in economic assistance, $7.6 billion in security-related aid, and $13 billion in counterterrorism support, even recently the U.S. Senate passed $1.1 billion under the Security Enhancement Act on account of mutual strategic partnership, but somehow it never took interest in building dams, power plants, roads, bridges or ports.

China views its relationship with allies on a geo-strategic, and geo-economics basis, the purpose of the CPEC is to spur foreign investment and accelerate trade.
The United States could plan on a similar pattern and help put Pakistan on the road to financial security and political stability, it could direct some civilian assistance into CPEC-aligned projects such as improving Pakistan's national power grid.
The U.S. will most definitely continue to play a constructive role in Pakistan as it has since the last 70 years, it is an opportunity for tri-lateral co-operation and it already has heavy economic and trade ties with China.



Today even after striking a nuclear deal with Iran, the U.S. may not completely trust Iran or its new ally India, it cannot afford to lose its influence in Pakistan.
India’s all-time strategic partner is Russia and not the U.S., Modi calls Russia ‘ a pillar of strength’ and India’s ‘most important defence partner', this angle will upset the India-U.S. equation in the long-term as Washington cannot tolerate Moscow.
The U.S. Senate recently rejected an amendment designating India as a "major defense partner" even though India had high hopes after Modi's address to U.S. Congress.


The Chinese government has expressed the hope that work on the CPEC projects will be completed before scheduled time, it is at top priority in the next Chinese five year plan, according to the SCIO report, Pakistan, s profile has improved as an economic destination and economic indicators have risen.
The CPEC project has moved ahead according to schedule and Pakistan seems poised to take it onwards to completion.

@sabena_siddiqi

with all due respect
economically it will be the centre of massive trade between china and countries of Indian ocean and even europe but making such a big heading
yar plz ab sharminda tou na karo bechary CPEC ko
it start sounding like India claiming their tejas is better than any aircraft in existence

 

[danger007]

Kudos on the DMIC. I don't see any Pakistani downplaying it or comparing it with CPEC. Your post above shows the level of inferiority complex you're experiencing.

I don't understand why Indians are getting a$$burns whenever Pakistanis on PDF are rejoicing on anything good that's happening to it's nation. Goes to show what Indians feel about Pakistan.

I wonder why we allow such complex-driven immigrants on our forum who simply can't swallow PAKISTANIs rejoicing on a PAKISTANI forum, rather, they infest the forum with their hatred towards PAKISTANIs.

With all humility and politeness, on behalf of all PAKISTANIs on PDF, I have this message for all indians who just can't swallow Pakistan's success and can't see Pakistani's rejoicing, "F*** OFF. WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK OR FEEL. WE ARE BUSY".

oh another cartoon network, who is getting personal.. better to look on reality than boasting cpec-the centre of earth and magic wand for pak..