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Covid-19 - Devastating Second Wave in India - Updates and Discussion
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US to ban travelers from India, as subcontinent grapples with Covid surge
The Biden administration will impose new travel restrictions on India, amid a wave of coronavirus cases and deaths. Nearly half the world’s population is now banned from entering the US.www.rt.com
US is late as usual. Any update whether the Indian mutated variant made it to the US?
Guess the Asian NATO alliance just banned a fellow member as they see it as the sick man of the world.
It’s already in the US (Wall Street journal article from the 27th) which is why getting vaccinated ASAP is important. Within the next two months most of the US will reduce its restrictions, which will make unvaccinated people vulnerable to this variant and others like it, spreading quickly. The US may yet see a third wave this summer, but thankfully with the vaccine it shouldn’t be as bad as what we have seen over the last 12-15 months, hopefully.
‘You’re not in the clear with vaccines’: US lawmaker says she’s Covid-positive after 2 doses of Pfizer
A lawmaker from Arizona has officially announced that she contracted Covid-19 after being fully vaccinated. In a statement, she warned that despite taking all precautions, no one should let their guard down.
Not sure if getting vaccinated will even make a difference
Richie Rich Indians !!!
I shake my head in disbelieve. When the Indian government has utterly failed its citizens in an indescribably level of incompetence there are still Indians left who keep talking BS by seeking answer of the origin with reference to Wuhan. India can't handle this crisis of epic scale, it is not up to the task because of 1.3 billion people on 1/3 of China's land mass and the majority are not law abiding either. People in the west has grown tired of wearing masks or living in lock downs so i understand what the Indians are going through. What makes the situation even more hopeless is the medical facilities not having the capacity, the resources, the equipment to cope with this pandemic of disproportional scale. There's no hygiene, mass of uneducated people who seems to be superstitious making the perfect breeding spot for the covid virus and the mutated variants. Instead of containing China by the QUAD, a QUAD member is getting contained and should be put in quarantine by the rest of the world. It seems Modi got a taste of what's like to be on that spot.
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Dalit of QUAD left alone now, all other three banned them
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The most important thing in a Dalit’s life is to make the Brahmin happy!! The rest are all Fasa Fiso.....
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‘You’re not in the clear with vaccines’: US lawmaker says she’s Covid-positive after 2 doses of Pfizer
A lawmaker from Arizona has officially announced that she contracted Covid-19 after being fully vaccinated. In a statement, she warned that despite taking all precautions, no one should let their guard down.
Not sure if getting vaccinated will even make a difference
It is suppose to decrease the chance a person will get infected, but even if they are infected the money can mount a better defense early on, mitigating some of the effects.
Also RT spreads a mix of news and disinformation. Their articles should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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India Is Counting Thousands Of Daily COVID Deaths. How Many Is It Missing?
Scientists, funeral directors and survivors say the real numbers of infections and deaths in India may be many times more than the reported figures.
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India Is Counting Thousands of Daily COVID Deaths. How Many Is It Missing?
MUMBAI — Santosh Pandey's wife is the head of their village, population about 1,600, near the holy city of Varanasi in northern India. He sometimes answers her phone. So he's up to date on what's happening in town.
And what's happening these days, he said, is horrific.
Fifty people from his village, Ashapur, and a neighboring one, Tilamapur, have died in the past two weeks. Most died at home, gasping for breath, with fevers. But only five or six of them were officially counted as COVID-19 deaths, Pandey said.
"There's a shortage of coronavirus tests. Nobody's getting tested! So the government's numbers for our district are totally wrong," he told NPR on a crackly phone line from his village. "If you're able to get tested, results come after five days."
By that time, some of them are already gone – cremated on the banks of the nearby Ganges River.
This village's ordeal is not atypical. Across India, there are shortages of testing kits, hospital beds, medical oxygen and antiviral drugs as a severe second wave of the pandemic crushes the health infrastructure. The country has been breaking world records daily for new cases. On Friday, India's Health Ministry confirmed 386,453 infections – more than any country on any day since the pandemic began.
Part of the reason for the huge numbers is India's size: a population of nearly 1.4 billion. The rate of known coronavirus infections per capita is still less than the United States endured at its peak. In India, there have been nearly 19 million known infections since the start of the pandemic, or roughly 1.3% of the total population – compared with more than 32 million, or almost 10% of the U.S. population.
But survivors, funeral directors and scientists say the real numbers of infections and deaths in India may be many times more than the reported figures. The sheer number of patients has all but collapsed the health system in a country that invests less on public health — just above 1% of its gross domestic product — than most of its peers. (Brazil spends more than 9% of its GDP on health; in the U.S., the figure is nearly 18%.)
Across India, funeral pyres light up the night sky. Playgrounds and parking lots in the capital, New Delhi, have been converted into mass cremation grounds.
"The situation is very grim here. We are short of everything," said Dr. Aniket Sirohi, a municipal health official in south Delhi. "I want to say to the world, 'Help us, in any way you can.' "
Sirohi is supposed to be working on malaria prevention. But since the pandemic began, he's had the unenviable job of counting bodies. Each day, he goes to every crematorium and burial ground in his district of the capital, tallying deaths from COVID-19. Of his 11 staff members, five currently have COVID-19, he said.
"We are just doing the best we can. The morale is pretty shaken up," he said. "I have not taken a single day off."
Last year, at the height of the pandemic's first wave in India, Sirohi said he was counting about 220 COVID-19 deaths a day. When NPR spoke to him Wednesday, he counted 702 for that day. He passes those numbers up the chain of command. But the death figures the government ultimately publishes for his region have been at least 20% lower than what he's seeing on the ground, he said.
He attributed this disparity to administrative chaos. People from neighboring states flock to Delhi for medical treatment. Some die in Delhi and are cremated there but remain registered as residents somewhere else. They don't get counted anywhere, he said.
"Somehow the numbers are not getting recorded or not shown or getting missed," Sirohi said. "India always had a poor record of maintaining these things. We have a lot of population. So there's a bit of a problem with coordination – especially in times like this, when 50% of my staff is sick."
In the western state of Gujarat, local media tracked 689 bodies that were cremated or buried under COVID-19 protocols in one day in mid-April. But just over a 10th of those deaths made it to the government's tally: The official death toll that day was 78. Such discrepancies are being reported in several states.
The "endgame" that wasn't an endgame
There is another reason why India's coronavirus numbers may be skewed: hubris. In early March, India's health minister declared that the country was in the "endgame of the COVID-19 pandemic." Daily cases had hit record lows of about 8,000 a day in early February, down from a peak of nearly 100,000 cases a day in September.
But over the winter, as cases began creeping up, some politicians didn't pay attention — or perhaps didn't believe the coronavirus could return.
Throughout April, as cases mounted, political parties held massive rallies and went door to door to ask for votes in five regions holding local elections. Prime Minister Narendra Modi presided over several rallies where thousands of supporters gathered, many without masks and with little physical distancing.
"As far as I can see, in every direction, I can only see people and nothing else," Modi boasted onstage at an April 17 rally in West Bengal. India confirmed more than 200,000 new coronavirus cases that day.
There have also been allegations that some politicians tried to suppress inconvenient news about rising case numbers.
Dr. A. Velumani runs Thyrocare, a nationwide chain of medical labs that conduct pathology tests on blood and other samples, including tests for the coronavirus. He said some of his labs have come under pressure from local officials to manipulate coronavirus tests and report fewer positive results.
"We are told, 'You shouldn't be doing more than this much,'" Velumani told local media. "In fact, in [a] good number of cases, the question is asked, 'Why [is] your laboratory reporting more positives than other local laboratories?' "
Fewer positive results mean fewer confirmed infections and fewer deaths attributed to the coronavirus. India's total pandemic deaths this week crossed the 200,000 mark. But that's still lower than the overall death tolls in the United States, Brazil and Mexico, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
There are reasons why fewer Indians might die from COVID-19. India is a very young country. Only 6% of Indians are older than 65. More than half the population is under 25. They're more likely to survive the disease.
But even considering India's demographics, scientists said the real death toll, and real number of total infections, are likely much higher than what the government is reporting.
Why the COVID-19 death count is likely an undercount
Mathematician Murad Banaji is a senior lecturer at Middlesex University in London. He's originally from Mumbai and has been studying the city's 2020 fatalities from COVID-19. By analyzing total excess deaths – i.e., the difference between total deaths in Mumbai one year, compared with the year before — he estimates that the number of deaths attributed to COVID-19 would have to have been undercounted by at least two-thirds to account for the higher 2020 death tally.
And that was last year when the pandemic did not strain India's health system to the extent it has now.
"My gut instinct says that right now, because you've got an overwhelmed health system, you're probably seeing an even greater undercount [of COVID-19 deaths] than you would have seen in 2020," Banaji told NPR. "My optimistic estimate then was that for every death [from COVID-19] that was recorded during the year [2020], two more were missed."
Those calculations are just for Mumbai, India's richest major city, where access to health care is better than elsewhere. So the number of undercounted deaths could be even higher in less well-off parts of the country — such as in Santosh Pandey's village.
It's not just deaths that are likely being undercounted. Scientists said recorded infections are even more of an underestimate. But they have a better idea of how much infections have been undercounted because they have serological data from random antibody tests that authorities conducted across large swaths of the country.
Results of a third national serological survey conducted in December and January showed that roughly a fifth of India's population had been exposed to the virus. That meant for every recorded coronavirus case, almost 30 went undetected.
But Banaji noted that capturing cases varies drastically from rural to urban areas. "You have much better detection of cases in urban areas. So for example in Delhi, about 10% of cases were being detected," he said. "Whereas in some areas of rural Bihar, considerably less than 1% of infections were being detected."
When will the wave peak?
Some scientists have been sounding the alarm about India's virus uptick since late February. Bhramar Mukherjee is one of them. She's a biostatistician at the University of Michigan who's designed models that show India's reported infections will peak in late May. She predicts India could be confirming as many as 1 million new cases a day and 4,500 daily deaths by then.
"There has been tremendous data denial. People didn't want to believe, and the government didn't want to believe, that this was actually going to explode," Mukherjee told NPR. "There was also a sense of premature celebration and exceptionalism."
Another model of India's current COVID-19 wave has been conducted by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington. The institute's director, Chris Murray, told NPR that India may be detecting only 3% or 4% of its daily infections.
So when India confirms about 386,000 infections, as it did Friday, that may really mean it's seeing about 10 million infections, according to the institute's modeling.
"There's going to be some protection from previous infection. So you'll start to run out of people who can get infected," Murray said. "We think that infections – the actual true number of infections, which is many multiples of the officially reported cases — would be peaking probably next week."
India's deaths in this latest wave would peak around the third week of May, according to the institute's model.
"Unfortunately, given the exponential rise in cases, we may see the daily death toll rise to over 10,000 or even 12,000 a day, before we get to that peak toward the end of May," Murray said.
That could mean more shortages, fewer hospital beds and more tragedy on top of what India has already endured in recent weeks.
For Sirohi, the public health official in south Delhi, it would mean many more bodies to count.
"We're preparing for that, kind of anticipating it. We've acquired wood from neighboring states, to build more funeral pyres," he said. "Let's hope that doesn't happen. If it does, we'll have to face it."
BJP is working 24X7 torescue countryget votes
and bhakts working 24X7 on PDF here to sell modi's lies
Some people love India so much that they talk about india 24X7 about India without worring about their own country where people are dying in hundreds due to Chinese virus.
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