Covid-19 - Devastating Second Wave in India - Updates and Discussion

[Vapnope]

If Muslims don't show basic human decency and celebrate death of a kafir who didn't agree to their Islamic supremacist ideas, then how can they also wonder why the world turning Islamophobic and trend of growing intolerance for Muslims?

Your comment reeks of hatred towards muslims with a pretext that muslims celebrate death of Non muslims, while you can find many muslims here who are clearly not rejoicing death of a hidutva supremacist who continued to dehumanized their brothers in India. The justification you are using against Muslims is just like justifications Nazis used against Jews. We aren't rejoicing deaths in India, it were you people who rejoiced PIA plane crash, Mecca crane tragedy and even New Zealand mosque terrorist attack.

 

[SecularNationalist]

2 & 3 - No country is equipped with such an infra where it can handle such number of patients, same goes for USA. Therefore, all governments tried to impose lockdown and took other measures so that number of patients remain within a limit. Unfortunately, in India government allowed religious and social

I know those limitations even for a country with the best healthcare system but they very basic should be expected even from a country like somalia. Here we are talking about a huge economy nation,next or potential super power.How can such a country with such resources cannot produce its own oxygen? Serum institute of india is making vaccines for the whole world but can't produce oxygen? Ok can't produce oxygen but with all that money they can't even import oxygen to save lives? Such a so called superior nation letting their citizens die like animals?
Look at their hospitals man they look like some vegetables market. Other countries too hit hard with covid now make the comparison . Even the beggar ones according to these proud indians were far better .

 

[Crystal-Clear]

bjp is trying hard to cover their failure thats why they let ipl happen .

 

[Vapnope]

I know those limitations even for a country with the best healthcare system but they very basic should be expected even from a country like somalia. Here we are talking about a huge economy nation,next or potential super power.How can such a country with such resources cannot produce its own oxygen? Serum institute of india is making vaccines for the whole world but can't produce oxygen? Ok can't produce oxygen but with all that money they can't even import oxygen to save lives? Such a so called superior nation letting their citizens die like animals?
Look at their hospitals man they look like some vegetables market. Other countries too hit hard with covid now make the comparison . Even the beggar ones according to these proud indians were far better .

As per media reports India had industrial oxygen in surplus however the issue was of transportation to health infra, however now we are seeing that aid coming to India includes oxygen cylinders as well.
Indian govt downplayed the pandemic and clearly was unaware of the capacity of their health system hence the catastrophe. The incumbent government mismanaged the whole situation.

 

[SecularNationalist]

What's with oxygen canisters? Is it because they lack respirators, just buy from China, we produce them at less than 1000 dollars a piece.

Yea a so called super power nation with a huge economy can't even import oxygen and respirators from abroad to save their own citizens. Indians brag to be educated ,here these educated folks won't question the current government about the spending and allocation of funds to deal with this covid crisis.
Oh wait why they should question it's another phake newj.

As per media reports India had industrial oxygen in surplus however the issue was of transportation to health infra, however now we are seeing that aid coming to India includes oxygen cylinders as well.
Indian govt downplayed the pandemic and clearly was unaware of the capacity of their health system hence the catastrophe. The incumbent government mismanaged the whole situation.

These right wing illiterates they have in the parliament and other institutions didn't even take this virus seriously. They somehow still think cow urine will stop this virus from spreading miraculously.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Underreporting will lead to a bigger catastrophe, as proper supplies of oxygen, coronavirus vaccines, other drugs cannot be planned and provided with right amount of supplies.

As talked in the video, the deaths could be one million so far and not two hundred thousand, the official claim.

Indian govt fudging and skewing data is bad practice.

 

[Varunastra]

Yea a so called super power nation with a huge economy can't even import oxygen and respirators from abroad to save their own citizens. Indians brag to be educated ,here these educated folks won't question the current government about the spending and allocation of funds to deal with this covid crisis.
Oh wait why they should question it's another phake newj.

No one's happy with how this was managed mate. People here are questioning every step taken, but we are as a whole worried and trying to play our part in stopping the spread as our prime priority, government will really be brought to question after the current situation settles down.

 

[Feng Leng]

Within a month, at least 100 million Indians will die from covid-19.

 

[S10]

The fatality rate in Wuhan in the initial outbreak was 5% when hospitals were overwhelmed. It took a massive response to bring things back under control. About 40,000 medical staff were flown in from elsewhere in the country to put a lid on the situation, along with strict lockdowns.

It makes no sense for India to only have ~4k official fatalities a day given the scale of this outbreak. If they're running out of hospital beds, oxygen, medication, vaccines, cremation grounds and firewood, then the scale of the suffering has to be much greater.

 

[Suriya]

There is absolutely zero anecdotal evidence to support these wild claims of 'analysts'. Even if take deaths occurred in quartines at home and those suspected of covid but not tested number couldn't be more than 50 to 60%.

Each Hindu cremations take hours, even 2x increase would be get cremation delayed by 2 days.

Anyways forget 10 times even 5times death toll would create a massive law and order problem which not case even in this crisis situation.
India isn't china where thing can be kept under the wrap when media from all over the world have free access to file field report about it.

Within a month, at least 100 million Indians will die from covid-19.

The Indian variant has already entered into China, we are going to hear another wuhan like shut down and media blackout shortly.

 

[drunken-monke]

bjp is trying hard to cover their failure thats why they let ipl happen .

Cases are too much my friend. Every govenrnment from every state is trying to hide deaths..

I don't completely agree with 10 times death figure, however the number may be between 5 to 6 times what has been reported by government.

This is because I have witnessed deaths of some distant relatives and number is in double digits..

Within a month, at least 100 million Indians will die from covid-19.

Are you gloating on deaths of my countrymen?? or that's a wishful thinking??

Pakistanis are our sworn enemies but, let me tell you in such difficult times they are also one of the best well wishers, though they can hardly help us in any ways! By this way, I dare say Pakistani nationals are 1000 times better than any Chinese... After all they have heart which cant be said for .......!!

 

[UKBengali]

It may not be ten times as much officially reported but certainly much more than 3000 a day are perishing if you have a positive to test ratio of 30% and people are dying outside hospitals due to lack of oxygen.

The other sad thing is that this would not have been as bad 20 years ago, as the Indian middle-class is much larger now and so they have taken on a Western lifestyle of overeating and sedentariness. That is why you see a lot of the people needing hospital treatment being overweight.

 

[drunken-monke]

It may not be ten times as much officially reported but certainly much more than 3000 a day are perishing if you have a positive to test ratio of 30% and people are dying outside hospitals due to lack of oxygen.

The other sad thing is that this would not have been as bad 20 years ago, as the Indian middle-class is much larger now and so they have taken on a Western lifestyle of overeating and sedentariness. That is why you see a lot of the people needing hospital treatment being overweight.

The spreadability of this variant is extremely high.. Indian scientist suspecting that this is no longer a droplet spreading disease. It may be spreading through air as well.. Some data suggest so. Those who recovered last year from Covid are again getting re-infected. At this moment, either 50% population already infected or recovered. Many are asymptomatic and that the problem. Can't trace the spreaders.. About lifestyle, may be or may not be true because people even from lower class are either dying or hospitalized due to sever cases.

 

[Suriya]

It may not be ten times as much officially reported but certainly much more than 3000 a day are perishing if you have a positive to test ratio of 30% and people are dying outside hospitals due to lack of oxygen.

Real figures aren't more than 50 to 60% of official figures even if we take people dying at home. People still look of a hospital bed as there is chance to secure it. If it were even 2x of this, there would severe law and order problem.
India is democratic country, it doesn't take much for people to come out on to the streets doing demonstrations which often even turn violent. So far law and order even in worst hit Delhi has worsened.

The other sad thing is that this would not have been as bad 20 years ago, as the Indian middle-class is much larger now and so they have taken on a Western lifestyle of overeating and sedentariness. That is why you see a lot of the people needing hospital treatment being overweight.

Yes, relation between obesity and covid severity is becoming clear day light.

 

[UKBengali]

The spreadability of this variant is extremely high.. Indian scientist suspecting that this is no longer a droplet spreading disease. It may be spreading through air as well.. Some data suggest so. Those who recovered last year from Covid are again getting re-infected. At this moment, either 50% population already infected or recovered. Many are asymptomatic and that the problem. Can't trace the spreaders.. About lifestyle, may be or may not be true because people even from lower class are either dying or hospitalized due to sever cases.

As regards being overweight, it increases the risk of needing hospital treatment but certainly young and slim can also get severe disease.

This is a human tragedy on a huge scale and we all hope the pandemic can be brought under control quickly. All countries and people of the world are with India at this time.