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The Court of Appeal of Versailles (PLO c / Alstom and Veolia) concludes that the Israeli occupation is not illegal

April 13, 2013 | Filed under: Israel | Posted by: Jean-Patrick Grumberg

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Here is a study that friends of Israel must be preserved carefully in their archives. France is not neutral in the conflict, and the judgment of the Court is of particular importance.

Veolia and Alstom built, following a call for tenders, the Jerusalem tramway through the city to the east, into the territories claimed by the PLO and the Palestinian Authority.

The PLO considers that the State of Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian land and continues an illegal Jewish settlement in the construction of the tram and is itself unlawful.

The legal arguments of the PLO removed one after another
Organization for the Liberation of Palestine has therefore embarked on a lengthy trial that just ended before the Court of Appeal of Versailles, March 13, 2013, by an overwhelming so inconvenient conclusions were spent hammering totally under silenced by the mainstream media to inform you loaded independently.

The occupation of Palestinian territory is not illegal
The PLO is based on international law and considers that Israel illegally occupies Palestinian territory and is pursuing an illegal Jewish settlement. The construction of the tram and itself illegal. In support, the PLO alleges infringement of several texts:

  • Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949 which states that "the Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
  • Article 53, which states that "it is forbidden for an occupying power to destroy the real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, the State or public authorities and social or cooperative organizations except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations. "

The PLO added that the construction has caused destruction, virtually removing the 60 vital road for Palestinians and their goods, removal of tracks and paths, and expropriations. There had therefore been a violation of several articles from the Regulations annexed to the Fourth Hague Convention of 18 October 1907:

  • Article 23 (g) which prohibits "destroy or seize the enemy's property except where such destruction or seizure be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war"
  • Article 27 that "in sieges and bombardments all necessary steps must be taken to spare as far as possible buildings dedicated to religion, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals ..."
  • and Article 46, which states that "private property can not be confiscated."

Finally, the PLO says Israel violates the provisions relating to "the protection of cultural property" under Article 4 of the Hague Convention of 14 May 1954, Article 27 of the Hague Regulations of 1907, the Article 5 of the Hague Convention IX of 1907 and Article 53 of Additional Protocol 1 to the Geneva Conventions.

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Niet! meets the Court of Appeal, without denying the occupation, said Israel was within its rights because "... the authority of the legitimate power having in fact passed into the hands of the occupant, the latter shall take all measures in his power to restore, and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, while respecting, unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in the country "(Article 43 of the 4th Convention The Hague 1907).

The occupation does not violate any international law
And the Court did not stop there ... It explains why the occupation of the West Bank by Israel does not violate any international law.

The PLO, explaining that the occupation is illegal, says Israel is violating:

  • Articles 49-6 and 53 of the Geneva Convention,
  • Articles 23, 27 and 46 of the Regulations annexed to the Fourth Hague Convention of 1907,
  • Article 4 of the Hague Convention of 14 May 1954
  • Article 27 of the Hague Regulations of 1907,
  • Article 5 of the Convention IX of the 1907 Hague
  • and Article 53 of Additional Protocol 1 to the Geneva Conventions.

Not at all! meets the Court of Appeal of Versailles , which states that:

First, all of these texts are international acts signed between states and the obligations or prohibitions they contain are addressed to States. Neither the Palestinian Authority nor the PLO are States, none of these texts do not apply to them .

Second, the Court still remember, these texts are addressed to "the Contracting Parties", ie both parties have signed - and again, neither the PLO nor the AP never signed these documents .

Propaganda does not replace the law
An irritated anything, the Court also added that the French law ... "can not be based solely on the discretion [the PLO] a political or social situation."

Humanitarian law is not violated either
The PLO, which then tries to hide the humanitarian standards, is once again sent into the ropes by the court, who said that while the Geneva Conventions and the Hague Convention are applicable in French law .

But "the International Court of Justice stated that they (the agreements) contain only obligations on states, and that the right of individuals to rely on was not mentioned" , only the parties contractors are bound by those conventions, and the Hague Convention of 1907 are not applicable because ... Jerusalem is not bombed!

The PLO and the Palestinians can not rely on any international texts
Finally, the Court said, "the conventional international standards" do not give the "Palestinian people shows that the PLO represent the right to plead before a court. "

PLO condemned AFD
The Court of Appeal sentenced the AFPS (Association France Palestine Solidarity) and the PLO to pay 30,000 euros to Alstom, 30,000 euros from Alstom Transport, and 30 000 Veolia Transport.

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Judgment of the Court of Appeal:

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Decision of la_cour_d_appel from Yohann Taieb
 
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Israel's occupation is so illegal it's hard to elaborate. In fact, Israel is contradicting its own agreements with the PLO in the 1980's by violating Palestinian sovereignty. I say this despite the fact I'm all for the existence of Israel.

What a pathetic decision, why is Palestine suddenly not a State? They're recognized as being a State by nearly 70% of the world! This shows what your fate will be when the West doesn't recognize you. We live in a cruel world.

Justice prevailed :tup:

Okay, if as your pathetic media propagates, China comes and takes Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh, and Kashmir, don't start screaming "ILLEGAL CHINESE BASTARDS!!!11" :azn:
 
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Israel's occupation is so illegal it's hard to elaborate. In fact, Israel is contradicting its own agreements with the PLO in the 1980's by violating Palestinian sovereignty. I say this despite the fact I'm all for the existence of Israel.

What a pathetic decision, why is Palestine suddenly not a State? They're recognized as being a State by nearly 70% of the world! This shows what your fate will be when the West doesn't recognize you. We live in a cruel world.



Okay, if as your pathetic media propagates, China comes and takes Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh, and Kashmir, don't start screaming "ILLEGAL CHINESE BASTARDS!!!11" :azn:
No. This actually shows you have not even basic political science.

First...Would you ask the same question if nearly 70% of the world 'recognize' Tibet as an independent state?

But now here is where you are wrong: In order to be recognize AS A PEER, you must have all the necessary characteristics of a country that others are familiar with. You must stake out a territory and not only must you develop it, you must also defend it. You must have political institutions common to other countries such as a chief executive office, a legislative body, and a judiciary observer. You must have a bureaucracy to administer the needs of those institutions. You must have a formal military. You must have a currency and an economic system. And many more...

So unless you have a credible source that says nearly %70 of the world 'recognize' Palestine as a country...
 
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No. This actually shows you have not even basic political science.

First...Would you ask the same question if nearly 70% of the world 'recognize' Tibet as an independent state?

But now here is where you are wrong: In order to be recognize AS A PEER, you must have all the necessary characteristics of a country that others are familiar with. You must stake out a territory and not only must you develop it, you must also defend it. You must have political institutions common to other countries such as a chief executive office, a legislative body, and a judiciary observer. You must have a bureaucracy to administer the needs of those institutions. You must have a formal military. You must have a currency and an economic system. And many more...

So unless you have a credible source that says nearly %70 of the world 'recognize' Palestine as a country...

Oh please kid. Read up on the constitutive statehood since you clearly don't know what that is.

You seem to spout additional criteria out of your own poophole when these are not established in international law. There are only four STRICT criteria recognized in Art 1 of the Montevideo Criteria to be a "State". Croatia was admitted as a State when even Zagreb wasn't in control of the barely functioning government let alone the whole country. Guess one of the first countries to recognize Croatia? Yep, the U.S. The other states followed suit, despite Croatia failing the criteria.

Contrast that with Palestine, who fulfill the Montevideo Criteria. It has a consistent territory, permanent population, the PNA has a functioning government that definitely has more control than the Croatian government had when they were recognized and it definitely has the capacity to enter relations as an equal state.

Remember the constitutive theory and put it together yourself. Let that show you how important the recognition of the West is when it comes to not being ruled as a non-state entity. There's my "political science" lecture to you, punk. You learn something new everyday :omghaha:
 
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Oh please kid. Read up on the constitutive statehood since you clearly don't know what that is.

You seem to spout additional criteria out of your own poophole when these are not established in international law. There are only four STRICT criteria recognized in Art 1 of the Montevideo Criteria to be a "State". Croatia was admitted as a State when even Zagreb wasn't in control of the barely functioning government let alone the whole country. Guess one of the first countries to recognize Croatia? Yep, the U.S. The other states followed suit, despite Croatia failing the criteria.

Contrast that with Palestine, who fulfill the Montevideo Criteria. It has a consistent territory, permanent population, the PNA has a functioning government that definitely has more control than the Croatian government had when they were recognized and it definitely has the capacity to enter relations as an equal state.

Remember the constitutive theory and put it together yourself. Let that show you how important the recognition of the West is when it comes to not being ruled as a non-state entity. There's my "political science" lecture to you, punk. You learn something new everyday :omghaha:
Give me a break...:lol:

While the UN have no legal jurisdiction over the recognition of 'statehood', the UN is able to grant moral recognition to further establish any petitioner to be formally recognized as a peer inside that body. The UN have granted only 'observer' status to the Palestinians. But then again, contestant authority by three parties (Israel, Hamas, and the PA) inside the Palestinians body politic erode any claim by the Palestinians themselves to be qualified as a legitimate peer. So where is that 'nearly 70% of the world', if so secure, a credible source that opined so?

Let us not forget Taiwan or even...gasp...Hong Kong, shall we?

Punk.
 
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what a cheap and dumb excuse... of course they are not state, they have been occupied for YEARS... the British didn't leave Palestine before it transferred the Jews to occupy Palestine... contradiction at its best... not a state, what a dumb excuse :hitwall:

Not at all! meets the Court of Appeal of Versailles , which states that:

First, all of these texts are international acts signed between states and the obligations or prohibitions they contain are addressed to States. Neither the Palestinian Authority nor the PLO are States, none of these texts do not apply to them .
 
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Israel's occupation is so illegal it's hard to elaborate.
Which implies it is 100% legal.

In fact, Israel is contradicting its own agreements with the PLO in the 1980's by violating Palestinian sovereignty.
That made no sense, as Israel's agreements with the PLO did not grant the Palestinians sovereignty.

I say this despite the fact I'm all for the existence of Israel.
Sure you are, anybody could tell!

why is Palestine suddenly not a State? They're recognized as being a State by nearly 70% of the world!
Two reasons, I think. One, they're limited by the Oslo accords not to assume sovereignty without agreement with Israel and two their leaderships' own desires not to declare statehood, as they are unwilling to accept responsibility for their own welfare and those of Palestinians in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, etc.
 
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