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Counter-thoughts! How Bharat can help stabilize Afghanistan

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Counter-thoughts! How Bharat can help stabilize Afghanistan

Easy!

Totally discourage anti-Pakistan elements in Afghanistan.

yeah yeah. We all know enemy of my enemy is my friend logic.

But there is something called Karma! that happens to be the biggest Beeeaaaach so to speak.

Having pro-Pakistan elements in Afghanistan doesn't and cannot hurt Bharat. This is due to puny population of Afghanistan (20 mil) compared to 1300 mil of Bharat. then a distance and "land bridge" away from Bharati borders.

However we in the subcontinent are cursed for 1000s of years with a mentality called "A raja must fork the neighboring Raja, even if he has to call in Afghanistani hoards".

And thus tiny tiny tiny warlords in Afghanistan came in and occupied the whole of Central India (southern tip excluded).

Ranjeet Singh changes everything


Then came the period of Ranjeet Singh. He with his clever politics and military tactics, wiped out warlordism from North West subcontinent.

Warlods in Afghanistan were pushed beyond the natural boundary and Khyber pass.

This status will continue and in fact stabilize the whole of Afghanistan if and only if we follow Ranjeet Singh's policies.

However sadly, Bharat is following the policies of Ranjeet singh's sons, thus helping create anarchy in the Afghanistan region since 1947.

There is no need for Bharat to get involved in proxy wars of Afghanistan. It will bring long term harm to both Afghanistan and especially bharat.

Bharat should be like China,

helping stabilize the region. here are simple steps:

1. just like China, Bharat must encourage Afghanistani reconciliation
2. just like China, Bharat must not allow anti-Pakistan statements by Afghanistani leadership

These 2 simple steps will bring immense trade benefits to Bharati industrialists and thus engineers.

Here are the facts:

1. Bharati exports to Pakistan per year recently = $3200 millions (Pak population = 200 mil)
2. Bharati exports to Afghanistan per year recently = $140 millions (Afgh population = 20 mil)

Total westwards exports = $3340 million

This can increase 10 times in few years if Afghanistan-Pakistan region is fully stable as China is trying hard to make it.

So the question to Bharati intellectuals is simple.

Would Bharatis like to increase your exports to Af-Pak $30 billion a year?

or just throw everything down the drain like medieval rajas used to?

Choice is yours.



peace to you all.


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Your analysis bases itself on the presumption that there is advantages to India with peace in Afghanistan something I do not agree with.
why you would NOT agree with trade advantages for Bharat?

Please elaborate
 
why you would NOT agree with trade advantages for Bharat?
trade advantages are not as important as a destabilized Afghanistan, always a threat to Pakistan. Will elaborate in detail tonight
 
If Pakistan wants to truly help stabilise Afghanistan then it must leave it alone

As long as Pakistan keeps plotting against India and seeks to dominate Afghanistan
there will always be something interesting happening

Afghanistan looks at India because it just does not trust Pakistan

NDS and RAW can have a lot of cooperation
 
If regional stability,by completely discouraging anti-Pakistani elements in Afghanistan can be achieved, I believe Pakistan has much more to accomplish than the Indians have done so far(allegedly fueling Anti-Pak sentiments) . Geo-Politics in the region has been historically rude and complex from the days of Anglo-Russian rivalry and with the shift in the center of global power play today, things are not going to be as simple for Pakistan as the article suggests, Fauj Bhai. Afghanistan needs a peaceful secular-liberal regime to stabilize itself and they are going to reject anything that comes its way at any cost.
 
For long India was denied access to oil and natural gas of C.Asia. India welcomes connectivity with C.Asia. The biggest mistake Nehru and the politicians of 1947 did was to not to have the connectivity with C.Asia during partition.

WOT is started by USA and destabilization of Afghanistan is because of foreign powers.

Pakistan plays a key role through their proxies Taliban.

India looks for business interests also will look forward to increase the diplomatic relations with C.Asia nations.

India's role is limited there compared to giants like USA,China as of now.
 
@FaujHistorian

Pakistan's TOTAL Imports Globally is 45 Billion

DO you mean that Pakistani Government is so imprudent that it would import
30 out of 45 billion ie Two thirds of its imports from India

And allow India to have a vital choke point
 
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As long as Pakistan keeps plotting against India
Bhai you are living in 1980s when there was some sort of assumed parity of economy between two countries.

That model is now invalid.

Please start living in 2015. Some Pakistani organizations may do stupid / criminal things. but state of Pakistan no longer can ""plot" anything against India.


.....
...... dominate Afghanistan

Afghanistan is neighbor of Pakistan.

Other neighbors are Iran, China, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkamistan.

Just think if Pakistan is any position to "dominate" in this situation when there at least 3 other countries much bigger economically, and they have direct connect with Afghanistan.

Just think!
 
afghans have to make peace in afghanistan. they seem intent on living in the 11th century
of course ISI meddling does not help
 
It's a game of thrones . I will only help my enemy if his stability fetches something to me . If he tryies to harm me i will harm him two times over . Thaat is what has been going on from centuries in subcontinent .

In post independance it started with operation gibralter ( with self pompous team names like salahuddin , gazhnavi , tariq ,babar , qasim , khalid , nusrat , sikardar and khilji ) which had domino effects from which going back will be impossible for either nation .
 
For long India was denied access to oil and natural gas of C.Asia. India welcomes connectivity with C.Asia. The biggest mistake Nehru and the politicians of 1947 did was to not to have the connectivity with C.Asia during partition.

WOT is started by USA and destabilization of Afghanistan is because of foreign powers. India's role is limited there compared to giants like USA,China.

Pakistan plays a key role through their proxies Taliban.

India looks for business interests also will look forward to increase the diplomatic relations with C.Asia nations.

India does NOT need Central Asian economies and trade to grow

Central Asian market is a Pakistani created bogeyman

Find out the Total GDP of Central Asian countries and then worry about it

And Central Asian countries trade with China Russia and Europe

India has trade with ALL other parts of the world
That is more than enough
 

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