COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

[araz]

Exactly...
This certifies my point that if CH-5 costs almost as much as the JF-17 then PAF should procure them as they will replace the aging aircraft fleet later on they can be upgraded.

Here are some interesting quotes on price regarding JF-17:-

1In numbers, a JF-17 Thunder costs (approximately) between $25 million USD-$32 million USD, depending on the tranche and avionics version.
https://theaviationist.com/2017/11/...-jf-17-thunder-the-real-joint-strike-fighter/

The point being made is even though your thoughts are correct, the 2 products are widely different in use, utility cost per hour. So for instance yoy cannot compare the utility of a helo with that of a Jet fighter.
Regards

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

The point being made is even though your thoughts are correct, the 2 products are widely different in use, utility cost per hour. So for instance yoy cannot compare the utility of a helo with that of a Jet fighter.
Regards

The point being made is regarding the price only. Aircraft for similar role i.e. CH-5 also costs much less.

The role of CH-5 is similar to A-10's. A replacement of these A-10's are not drones but these three experimental aircraft.
https://taskandpurpose.com/a-10-warthog-fighter-replacement/

The issue on hand regarding utility of CH-5 is that it can carry almost similar payloads and save the pilot in places which are heavily guarded then there are other low cost options which can act in swarms. Now if the CH-5 is stealth then make it more attractive in the price of 20 million USD irrespective of operational cost.

 

[帅的一匹]

Maybe you should ask some of the readers here if I have any special channels.

CH4 took out 300 targets with 260 sorties in middle east, i think its doing fine.

 

[JamD]

AWC's Shahpar program and it's future versions are the answer because to the best of my knowledge that one is an actual local product. It has had its share of teething problems too but I am hopeful.

 

[帅的一匹]

It is growing in war.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

(Edited the post due as it was not posted completely due to power failure.)

Exactly...
This certifies my point that if CH-5 costs almost as much as the JF-17 then PAF should procure them as they will replace the aging aircraft fleet later on they can be upgraded.

Here are some interesting quotes on price regarding JF-17:-

1) In numbers, a JF-17 Thunder costs (approximately) between $25 million USD-$32 million USD, depending on the tranche and avionics version.
https://theaviationist.com/2017/11/...-jf-17-thunder-the-real-joint-strike-fighter/

2) A "fraction of the price"? The quoted price for a single JF-17 unit is roughly $28 million USD. That's over 50% MORE expensive than an early-block F-16C.
https://www.quora.com/How-did-Pakis...r-at-a-fraction-of-price-of-a-U-S-counterpart


3) In its federal budget proposal for 2018, Nigeria has allocated NGN 13.12 billion ($36 million U.S.) as a payment for an order for three JF-17 Thunder multi-role fighters – along with support equipment and spare parts – from Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC).
https://quwa.org/2018/01/07/nigeria-budgets-additional-payment-for-jf-17-order-from-pakistan/


4) Pakistan is offering the JF-17 for a low price ($25 million in the cheapest configuration) and touts the fact that this is a third the price of an F-16. But this is comparing apples and oranges.
http://rpdefense.over-blog.com/arti...-cheap-competition-for-the-f-16-89855058.html

I am not for or against CH and WL series UAV. I only give my assessment and the information I receive from the little birds around the aerodrome. It is for the competent authorities to decide what they require.

The point being made is regarding the price only. Aircraft for similar role i.e. CH-5 also costs much less.

The role of CH-5 is similar to A-10's. A replacement of these A-10's are not drones but these three experimental aircraft.
https://taskandpurpose.com/a-10-warthog-fighter-replacement/

The issue on hand regarding utility of CH-5 is that it can carry almost similar payloads and save the pilot in places which are heavily guarded then there are other low cost options which can act in swarms. Now if the CH-5 is stealth then make it more attractive in the price of 20 million USD irrespective of operational cost.

A CH-5 is not an A-10, not by far comparison. The huge payload being shown around the world is still theoretical, and does not have the endurance and recovery rates that the OEM is claiming. Simply put, CH-5 cannot exceed the decision parameters of the bird it is "inspired" from.

To clarify your thoughts, a MALE UAV should cost around 4-5 Million Dollars with its bells and whistles, and not 10 Million as the Chinese users mentioned.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

It is growing in war.

This is what our experience shows working with the Chinese industry. However, a loss of a dozen of these drones in Pakistan will help it grow, but will break the back of the customer who purchased it.

 

[帅的一匹]

This is what our experience shows working with the Chinese industry. However, a loss of a dozen of these drones in Pakistan will help it grow, but will break the back of the customer who purchased it.

its your asumption.

 

[Imran Khan]

i don't know whom stupid in Pakistan selected CH-3 our need was ch-4 or ch-5

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

i don't know whom stupid in Pakistan selected CH-3 our need was ch-4 or ch-5

CH-4 and Ch-5s are for later dates ...they were still not worthy or proven.

 

[Imran Khan]

CH-4 and Ch-5s are for later dates ...they were still not worthy or proven.

kya ???????? was you been in time capsule sir ?in late 2014 iraq got ch04 and kicking the arse of ISIS since then egypt ksa also got it but we select ddu drone which is not up to date tech

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

kya ???????? was you been in time capsule sir ?in late 2014 iraq got ch04 and kicking the arse of ISIS since then egypt ksa also got it but we select ddu drone which is not up to date tech

LOL !!! Pakistan lives in a time capsule that dates back to the stone age...No water, no power etc... thats the reason military planning chose what she thought were the most advance ones.

 

[Imran Khan]

LOL !!! Pakistan lives in a time capsule that dates back to the stone age...No water, no power etc... thats the reason military planning chose what she thought were the most advance ones.

yeah we got it in 2015 while iraq got ch4 in 2014 . our military top brass always select old tech

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

yeah we got it in 2015 while iraq got ch4 in 2014 . our military top brass always select old tech

Unfortunately people in Pakistan have become reactive rather then proactive irrespective of trait they are in. The day we learn to be proactive we might become the shaheens of Iqbal.

 

[Imran Khan]

Unfortunately people in Pakistan have become reactive rather then proactive irrespective of trait they are in. The day we learn to be proactive we might become the shaheens of Iqbal.

filhaal to hum jungli geedar hai ya phir dhobi ke kuty