Construction of Pak Navy's first MILGEM-class ship begins

[Imran Khan]

$500 Million ka eik hai shayad

or support choppers training waghera?

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

or support choppers training waghera?

Ok

 

[Imran Khan]

Ok

bhai jaan its nothing to be sad . just few years ago i remember we will not have a single new frigate . all we use old junk from UK - USA - china . now we have huge new fleet of modern ships
since i grow up i see garcia class going back . old rusty mall comming from UK and CHINA and few new boats .
remember every weapon we induct it take permanent chunk of budget until its retired . for example f-22 increased hundreds of new crew members a tons of supply allot of fuel supply new choppers costs and maintenance and operating cost .its not just buy and keep them for free . our fans friends did not see bigger picture we are poor country and we have to manage it with available funds .

 

[Pinnacle]

i did not remember there was another member here too he always want something big
50 frigates
20 destroyers
3 ACC
200 helicopters
100 ASW aircrafts
100 missile boats


he was famous few years ago i just forget his username .

His name was @Nishan .... i think

 

[Imran Khan]

His name was @Nishan .... i think

yes his name was nishan where is he these days ?

 

[Pinnacle]

yes his name was nishan where is he these days ?

I dont know, all of a sudden his name crossed my mind when i read your post

 

[waz]

Brothers stay on topic please.

 

[T-123456]

Pakistan's Jinnah class, the pumped up version of the Milgem, just short of the Istanbul class. I can't wait for this ship to be built and unveiled.

The first of many others.
And dont worry,better conditions as your ''iron brother''s.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) you know things are changing in our favor.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

The first of many others.
And dont worry,better conditions as your ''iron brother''s.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) you know things are changing in our favor.

Indeed.

I hope something became of STM's offer to jointly develop miniature submarines (but it seems the model here is actually the xTS1700 concept). It could be an interesting shift long-term, especially for the 2030s.

Let's see what the PAF decides with regards to FGFA/NGFA. In my opinion, I think it'll be a consortium, but not sure if we'll work with Turkey or China (or, if possible, both). If the PAF decides to work with Turkey, it would be a major pivot in the long-term.

 

[T-123456]

Indeed.

I hope something became of STM's offer to jointly develop miniature submarines (but it seems the model here is actually the xTS1700 concept). It could be an interesting shift long-term, especially for the 2030s.

Let's see what the PAF decides with regards to FGFA/NGFA. In my opinion, I think it'll be a consortium, but not sure if we'll work with Turkey or China (or, if possible, both). If the PAF decides to work with Turkey, it would be a major pivot in the long-term.

It really doesnt matter in the short-term but you will make the right decisions in the long-term,im sure of it.

 

[Arsalan]

For the J-Class' AAW, there are basically three options:

1. LY-80N -- likeliest.
2. CAMM-ER
3. Umkhonto EIR / Umkhonto ER (Marlin)

I'm not too worried about the LY-80N's weight, if the PN told AFSAT/Turkey that it was a contender, then the OEM likely did the tests beforehand to see if it's workable.

The Italian gov't only started funding the CAMM-ER again because it said Pakistan was interested, so I think it's available. It is a high-cost system, but Italy can offer a credit line/loan to back it.

The Umkhonto EIR / ER / Marlin can come with ToT.

The issue with LY-80N wont be that it CANNOT be operated. I think it will just waste extra space and IF we can get CAMM-ER that would be perfect. Plus my be it is my own wishes but i do think that PN may not go for Chinese tech on these ships. However i do understand when and why you say LY-80N is likeliest, that makes sense too.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

The issue with LY-80N wont be that it CANNOT be operated. I think it will just waste extra space and IF we can get CAMM-ER that would be perfect. Plus my be it is my own wishes but i do think that PN may not go for Chinese tech on these ships. However i do understand when and why you say LY-80N is likeliest, that makes sense too.

LY80N has 70km range against CAMM-ER 45km range

 

[xbat]

delivered few years ago pakistan purchased from USA and DELIVERED TO TURKEY .

4 LM-2500 Gas turbine (2018) For 4 MilGem frigates from Turkey

AFAIK Pak frigates will not have Gas Turbine, they will use only diesels ,

 

[LKJ86]

Plus my be it is my own wishes but i do think that PN may not go for Chinese tech on these ships.

China also doesn't want to.

 

[Arsalan]

LY80N has 70km range against CAMM-ER 45km range

True. But range is not the only thing that matters dear.
Plus there is that thing about putting all eggs in one basket!

AFAIK Pak frigates will not have Gas Turbine, they will use only diesels ,

Yes two diesel engines.

China also doesn't want to.

YES that can be another factor at play here.