‘Constitutional Coup’ Threatened in Pakistan : HRW

[B-_-m3r/-!anG]

They are already expelled from the party and will be punished by election commission

When Jahangir Tareen (Sugar Daddy of Imran Khan) was bringing politicians on his private jets. PTI supporters were like Ohhh WoooW Sacha Yarrrr!!!!!
Now the same politicians for the gain of Power/Money wanted to switch sides and they are Traiters. |Sada Kuta Kuta teh Tuada Kutta Tommy|.

 

[Norwegian]

When Jahangir Tareen (Sugar Daddy of Imran Khan) was bringing politicians on his private jets.

He didn't buy loyalties of Pmln or PPP politicians in his plane. Only ones he got were already elected as independents, Bughaz Imrani

 

[B-_-m3r/-!anG]

Lol, after calling each other corrupt for 30 years, PMLN and PPP are suddenly best friends and paragon of cleanliness within Pakistani politics.

it would be funnier if it wasn't so tragic for Pakistan and Pakistanis.


I honestly don't give a crap about what the rest of the forum was saying. I'm giving my own opinion as an individual.

Also, ask @Norwegian , and he'll tell you how much I've criticized Imran Khan's policies since he's come to power. I just happen to think that despite some of his dumb decisions, he's still the best choice Pakistan has.

So your words to try and malign me are nothing more than empty wasted words.

The fact you're making this sort of comment is enough to show that you aren't really serious about this situation. I suggest stopping and moving on elsewhere.

He He He He He.
Carryon. I will just enjoy your Post's. God Bless Pakistan

 

[Norwegian]

The average Westoid's "thoughts."

Patwarism overdrive

 

[B-_-m3r/-!anG]

He didn't buy loyalties of Pmln or PPP politicians in his plane. Only ones he got were already elected as independents, Bughaz Imrani

Now he was getting independent and I was at wrong. Thanks for the Correction. Will you care to elaborate that where is Jahangir Tareen these days. Did Imran Khan Commented on Jahangir Tareen's Disqualification under Article 62(1)(f) for misdeclaration of assets.

Ullu ka Patha hai ye Imran Khan bhi bas yahe kehna maqsad hai mera.

 

[Trango Towers]

Imran Khan’s move on Sunday to dissolve parliament rather than face a no-confidence vote that could remove him from power effectively deprives Pakistani citizens of their right to choose their government.

So giving the people the right to vote is unconstitutional but buying of MNA with dirty money is fine. What is this world coming to?

Patricia Grossman (nice Jewish name) no agenda there then. The shyteen never stop plotting

 

[Maula Jatt]

Only coup in the world
Where pm resigns, installs a caretaker government and asks for elections

 

[pak-marine]

Constitutional frauds​

“Pity the nation that is led by those who laugh at the law little realising that the law shall have the last laugh.” — Justice Asif Saeed Khosa


THE vote of no-confidence against Prime Minister Imran Khan was not voted upon, and in effect, was subverted and made redundant on the pretext of a so-called ruling given by the deputy speaker of the National Assembly. This is a grave constitutional situation because a free and transparent vote of no-confidence against the prime minister, strictly in accordance with procedure, is at the core of our constitutional democracy. To subvert this right and the process of a vote of no-confidence is to subvert both democracy and constitutionalism, thus creating space for a one-party state and a rule by law (and not rule of law) regime.
The interpretation of the law, leading to the subverting or denying of a vote of no-confidence, is not merely a different or alternative interpretation of the Constitution and the law but a constitutional fraud, which uses the parliamentary process and constitutional and legal provisions as a fig leaf and facade to subvert the very vote of non-confidence which it seeks to implement.
Editorial: Democracy subverted










A constitutional fraud is a classic example of George Orwell’s double speak — “To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it.” But the question arises as to how such constitutional frauds are possible in the presence of a written constitution, a democratic process and an independent judiciary.

How are such frauds possible in the presence of a constitution, a democratic process and an independent judiciary?

Anatomy of a fraud: Anyone with an elementary understanding of constitutional law and knowledge of the English language would at once realise that to deny or cancel the vote of no-confidence against Prime Minister Imran Khan, on the pretext of an alleged violation of Article 5 of the Constitution, is at best a constitutional joke, and at worst an insult to the Constitution. However, a constitutional fraud is a well-established legal fascist tactic that comprises five key strategic elements.
Firstly, the law is used as a fig leaf and façade. This means that the fraud entails adopting any absurd and irrational interpretation of the Constitution, law and procedure, in order to justify its political ends.
Secondly, it creates interpretational confusion. Once an absurd and irrational legal interpretation is employed, it seeks to argue that it is a genuine legal dispute as there are more than one interpretations possible of this so-called legal dispute, and therefore, the government’s action cannot be wholly fraudulent.
Read: Why the no-trust motion was as serious a 'sin' as the NA deputy speaker's legal acrobatics
Thirdly, it invokes the justiciability barrier. As the constitutional and legal subversion is so blatant, it tries to shield the constitutional fraud by arguing that the courts cannot look into such a question — for example, parliamentary proceedings being protected from judicial review under Article 69 of the Constitution.
Fourthly, it creates illegal facts on the grounds. It tries to bring about so many changes as a result of this constitutional fraud that even if the judiciary declares it a constitutional fraud, it would be difficult to reverse the consequences.
Fifthly, it seeks refuge in the lack of accountability. Generally, even if the courts declare it a constitutional fraud, government officials or politicians are hardly ever held accountable for their actions.
Prime Minister Imran Khan’s government was in the habit of engaging in constitutional frauds. The presidential reference against Justice Qazi Faez Isa was another classic example of constitutional fraud.
International right-wing brotherhood: Imran Khan is a novice at constitutional frauds but he is in good company — right-wing populist leaders like Donald Trump and Narendra Modi too have engaged in democratic/ constitutional frauds. Imran Khan and Modi share remarkable political similarities: both of them use religion, aggressive nationalism and micro welfare schemes (eg Sehat card and Ehsaas programme in Imran Khan’s case) to win the popular vote. In terms of constitutional frauds, they also share remarkable similarities. Both pretend and declare to believe in parliamentary democracy, judicial independence, free press and dissent in civil society.
However, while maintaining the formal architecture of these four critical elements of a liberal society, they take strong measures to hollow out these very institutions. Parliamentary democracy is combined with the desire for an authoritarian one-party state; judicial independence is combined with the desire for a cooperative judiciary; a free press is combined with a desire for the media to engage in positive minor critique; and dissent in civil society is combined with a tolerance of dissent only against opponents of the ruling party.
People are right to point out the similarities between Trump’s attack on Jan 6, 2020, on the US Congress’s process of counting the electoral votes in the presidential election, and the present situation, but there is one crucial difference: vice president Mike Pence was heading the certification process of the presidential elections rather than the deputy speaker of the National Assembly Qasim Suri. Unlike Qasim Suri, vice president Pence understood that if he rigged the certification process to help Trump get a second term, such a democratic/ constitutional fraud might spell the end of democracy in America, and as a consequence, might lead to his prosecution. Certainly, no one can ever accuse Qasim Suri of having any such democratic/ constitutional literacy and foresight.
Constitutional fraud creates a very dangerous precedent, which is that any constitutional and legal provision can mean absolutely anything a ruling party wants it to mean, however absurd and fatal such an interpretation is to the Constitution and democracy.
In other words, to use an Orwellian analogy, an unconstrained state may declare tomorrow that two plus two is five. Today, it is the opposition political parties which are under attack, tomorrow the target of such constitutional frauds can easily be the military, judiciary, media and dissenting voices in society. A wild politician only guided by his raw ambition to rule and who is bent upon destroying the basic acceptable principles of constitutional democracy is like wildfire. This fire will ultimately burn him and the entire country.
The writer is a lawyer.
Published in Dawn, April 5th, 2022

 

[Norwegian]

Now he was getting independent and I was at wrong. Thanks for the Correction. Will you care to elaborate that where is Jahangir Tareen these days. Did Imran Khan Commented on Jahangir Tareen's Disqualification under Article 62(1)(f) for misdeclaration of assets.

Ullu ka Patha hai ye Imran Khan bhi bas yahe kehna maqsad hai mera.

PM Imran Khan distanced himself from Jahangir Tareen after he was caught in sugar scandal

Sugar scam, IMF bailout saw ouster of Pakistani PM’s close aide from inner circle

ISLAMABAD: For nearly a decade, of all the friends and confidants in Prime Minister Imran Khan’s inner circle, sugar baron Jahangir Khan Tareen was his closest. Today, Tareen and Khan are no longer even on talking terms, officials close to both say, as the wealthy businessman and one of the...

www.arabnews.pk

 

[mhosein]

‘Constitutional Coup’ Threatened in Pakistan​

Imran Khan Dissolves Parliament to Remain in Office

Patricia Gossman
Associate Asia Director

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The parliament building in Islamabad, Pakistan, April 2021. © 2021 AP Photo/Anjum Naveed

Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan’s move on Sunday to dissolve parliament rather than face a no-confidence vote that could remove him from power effectively deprives Pakistani citizens of their right to choose their government.

On April 3, Qasim Khan Suri, the deputy speaker of Pakistan’s national assembly, dismissed a no-confidence motion against the prime minister. Claiming that “loyalty to the state was the basic duty of every citizen,” and that the no-confidence move was a “foreign conspiracy,” Suri refused to allow the vote. Khan’s government then dissolved the national assembly and called for new elections in 90 days.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1511391100027604999

The move has plunged Pakistan into constitutional crisis. Under Pakistan’s constitution, the prime minister ceases to hold office if a majority of the National Assembly votes for a motion of no confidence – Imran Khan’s party appeared to have lost its majority by April 3. The action allows Khan to continue as prime minister until a caretaker government takes over, with neither a national assembly nor a federal cabinet.
Legal experts, journalists, and rights group have condemned Khan’s maneuver as an assault on the country’s democracy. Now the Supreme Court of Pakistan, which took up the matter on April 3, is the only constitutional body empowered to adjudicate on the legality of the government’s dissolution. A hearing is scheduled on Wednesday, April 6.

The situation prior to the no-confidence vote was already fraught. Government officials threatened to “blow up the opposition in a suicide attack” and called on supporters to go out and take “traitors” to task. One member of parliament from Khan’s party tweeted that all opposition members should be shot – a tweet he subsequently deleted. Senior members of Khan’s party have called for opposition members to be arrested for treason.

Imran Khan’s dissolution of parliament to prevent it from voting so that he could remain in office threatens core democratic principles. It infringes on the rights of Pakistani citizens to choose their government, which is protected under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The government’s threatened use of violence, allegations of treason, and abrogation of the constitution are hallmarks of dictatorship, which Pakistanis have previously endured and should not have to endure again.

‘Constitutional Coup’ Threatened in Pakistan

Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan’s move on Sunday to dissolve parliament rather than face a no-confidence vote that could remove him from power effectively deprives Pakistani citizens of their right to choose their government.

www.hrw.org

A Western MSM parrot, that is what the author of this article really is. Where is Pakistan's sovereignty when America buys up Pakistani politicians? Where is democracy when America decides to order the Ambassador of Pakistan to America, to cancel their Head of State's visit to Russia?

Answer: there is no democracy, rather there is hypocrisy and deception when it comes to the West, it's journalistic credentials and it's foreign policy, which is essentially hegemony.

 

[B-_-m3r/-!anG]

PM Imran Khan distanced himself from Jahangir Tareen after he was caught in sugar scandal

Sugar scam, IMF bailout saw ouster of Pakistani PM’s close aide from inner circle

ISLAMABAD: For nearly a decade, of all the friends and confidants in Prime Minister Imran Khan’s inner circle, sugar baron Jahangir Khan Tareen was his closest. Today, Tareen and Khan are no longer even on talking terms, officials close to both say, as the wealthy businessman and one of the...

www.arabnews.pk

Itna Amar Bil Maroof tha tu use bhi Adalton main ghadeett'a na. Can't bite the hands that feeds you.

 

[Norwegian]

Itna Amar Bil Maroof tha tu use bhi Adalton main ghadeett'a na. Can't bite the hands that feeds you.

Ghaseeta Tha
That's when he ran to UK and distanced himself from Imran Khan

 

[shanipisces2002]

He declared them ghaddar, do he has the authority to declare anyone ghaddar without listening them??

Well they are Ghaddar selling them self for money and not looking at the betterment for Pakistan, even Nawaz, Zardari fazlu all are Ghaddar as they looted the country and made assets in foreign land.

 

[B-_-m3r/-!anG]

Well they are Ghaddar selling them self for money and not looking at the betterment for Pakistan, even Nawaz, Zardari fazlu all are Ghaddar as they looted the country and made assets in foreign land.

Acha bhqi kia betteement aee hai pichle 3.5 saal main. Ek Thread bana mjhr bata main bhi Patwarion ko Youthia karon

 

[shanipisces2002]

Acha bhqi kia betteement aee hai pichle 3.5 saal main. Ek Thread bana mjhr bata main bhi Patwarion ko Youthia karon

The ignorance of people like you is mind blowing.
ok tell me for last 30 decades oh wait lets make it 10 years what have they done the khota brigade is so much defending them?
Well i can tell you what they did
Looted Pakistan,
made properties in Dubai and in England.
Made a mockery of Pakistani people in the whole world
and the list goes on.