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Conservative vote plunged in Canada’s most Chinese electorates. Did party pay price for tough stance on Beijing?
  • Ousted MP Kenny Chiu says doors were shut in his face and some supporters abandoned him over ‘half truths’ and ‘lies’ about his positions on Hong Kong and China
  • A second Tory also faces defeat in Richmond, Canada’s most Chinese city, after a huge drop in support that contrasted with the national vote
Ian Young

Ian Young
in Vancouver
Published: 4:18am, 23 Sep, 2021

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Almost as soon as he entered Canada’s parliament in 2019, Conservative Kenny Chiu became a prominent advocate for what he called Hong Kong’s “political freedom”, and a tough critic of Beijing.

Weeks after being comfortably elected in Steveston-Richmond East, one of Canada’s most ethnically Chinese electorates, Chiu was back in his birthplace of Hong Kong as an international monitor for the city’s district council elections.

He would go on to become vice-chair of parliament’s subcommittee on international human rights, which sanctioned Chinese individuals and entities over alleged human rights violations in Xinjiang.

But now, after less than two years as an MP, Chiu is out, having suffered a hefty swing against him of 8.3 percentage points in Monday’s election.

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And he believes at least part of that was because of what he called a campaign of “disinformation” about his stances on China and Hong Kong. Anonymous WeChat messages had accused Chiu of wanting mainland Chinese immigrants to register as foreign agents.

The Chinese government sanctioned him for his role on the rights committee. And China’s ambassador, Cong Peiwu, launched a thinly veiled attack on Canada’s Tories when he said Beijing opposed politicians who were “smearing” China.

Chiu’s Conservative colleague and fellow Hong Kong immigrant Alice Wong suffered an even worse swing of 11.9 percentage points, preliminary results show, in the neighbouring metro Vancouver seat of Richmond Centre, previously a Conservative stronghold. Her defeat is yet to be confirmed but it was an unexpected humbling for Wong, a Tory MP since 2008.

The Richmond swings were extreme. Across all of British Columbia, the Conservative vote share was down only about 0.6 percentage points, while nationwide, it was up 0.3 percentage points.

In an election day interview, Chiu said doors had been slammed in his face on the campaign trail, and some previous supporters had abandoned him.

He blamed this on “communist China endorsed” disinformation in Chinese-language newspapers and radio that were “spreading half truths and complete lies” about his positions on Hong Kong and China.

“Because of that, a not-insignificant number of my previous supporters were hesitant to support me, or even got turned around,” said Chiu. “But on the other hand I’ve also received a lot of support for my stances … including many people from mainland China.”

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Canada’s House of Commons will be little changed as a result of Monday’s election, which saw the Liberal Party of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau returned as a minority government.

But the Tories’ hammering in Richmond, the most Chinese city in Canada, raises questions about whether the Conservatives had paid a price for a platform that took a hard line with Beijing.

Defying ‘simplistic assumptions’ in Canada’s most Chinese city

The Tories lost two other seats in metro Vancouver where the Chinese population is not as significant.

But these were close races. Cloverdale-Langley City flipped back to the Liberals after Conservative MP Tamara Jansen saw her vote share slide 1.3 percentage points. In Port Moody-Coquitlam, Tory Nelly Shin actually improved her vote share by 0.9 percentage points, but lost a tight three-way race to the New Democratic Party candidate Bonita Zarrillo.

The Richmond electorates presented a very different story.

Richmond Centre is 58.4 per cent ethnically Chinese, making it the second-most Chinese electorate in all of Canada, behind Markham-Unionville (64.2 per cent) in Ontario, according to country’s census. Hong Kong-born people make up 12.6 per cent of the Richmond Centre population, and mainland Chinese immigrants make up 24.8 per cent.

Steveston-Richmond East is not far behind. Forty-seven per cent of the population is ethnically Chinese, 11 per cent born in Hong Kong and 18 per cent in mainland China.

Chiu – who could not be reached for comment after his defeat – said on Monday that the electorate defied “simplistic assumptions” about how a person might stand on various issues based on whether they were Hong Kong or mainland immigrants.

His donors and campaigning team included enthusiastic mainland Chinese immigrants, he said.

“It’s easy to say, ‘Oh, Hongkongers are supportive of freedom and democracy, and mainlanders are not.’ My observation is, it’s not so simple,” said Chiu.

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But he was convinced that he had lost votes because of the way his stances had been presented to Richmond’s Chinese communities.

For instance, Chiu was the sponsor of a private member’s bill to create a foreign agent registry, introduced to parliament in April. The bill, which only reached the first reading before the election was called, would have obliged “individuals acting on behalf of a foreign principal to file a return when they undertake specific actions with respect to public office holders”, according to parliament’s summary.

But messages circulated on WeChat said the bill would have a “very negative impact” on mainland Chinese immigrants, whom it was said to be targeting.
“There has been so much information and disinformation,” said Chiu. “There was no chance for me to dispel that.”

More broadly, the Conservative election platform was criticised in Chinese state-run newspaper the Global Times as “toxic” and “hostile” to China.

The platform said the Tories would “stand up” to China on a host of issues, for instance, by banning Huawei Technologies Co. from 5G networks and withdrawing Canada from the Chinese-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.

“[Our] issue is with China’s communist government and leadership. The communist leadership represents a clear and rising threat to Canadian interests – and our values,” the platform said. “They’ve abducted our citizens, targeted our economy, and intimidated members of the Chinese-Canadian community.”

The state of China-Canada relations have been abysmal since the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou on a US fraud warrant in Vancouver in December 2018. That was followed by China’s arrest of Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor, both of whom Beijing accuses of espionage, but are regarded as hostages by Ottawa.

In 2019, Chiu won his seat by a comfortable margin over Liberal Joe Peschisolido, 41.7 per cent to 35.1 per cent.
On Monday, he resoundingly lost to Liberal Parm Bains by 42.8 per cent to 33.4 per cent, according to the Elections Canada tally as of Wednesday morning.

In Richmond Centre, Wong had cruised to victory in 2019 with a 20.5 point margin (49 per cent to 28.5 per cent). She is now facing defeat at the hands of Liberal Wilson Miao, who led her by 39.4 per cent to 37.1 per cent, with some postal votes still being counted.
Wong could not be reached for comment.

On the other side of Canada, a similar phenomenon could be seen in Markham-Unionville, where Conservative incumbent Bob Saroya lost after suffering a 7 percentage point swing against him. The Liberals picked up a whopping 10.3 percentage points, sweeping Paul Chiang to victory.

That defied an Ontario-wide trend that saw the Liberal vote decline 2.7 percentage points and the Conservative vote go up 2 percentage points.
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Speaking ahead of the election, University of British Columbia political-science professor Michael Byers said he had been sceptical of the impact of perceived efforts by the Chinese state to interfere in the vote.

“The Chinese Communist Party may be able to influence some people on WhatsApp or other social media, but I suspect most people in the Chinese diaspora in Canada have already formed their views on the Chinese Communist Party,” he said.

“It’s unlikely people are taking direction.”

It was, however, “inevitable” that China had become of increasing importance in Canadian elections, as it rose to superpower status and superseded Russia as a concern.

“As a geopolitically significant force, China hasn’t been in this position for several centuries and it’s back, big time,” said Byers. “So it quite rightly occupies a place in Canadian foreign policy it didn’t have before.”
 
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I hardly doubt China as a topic had anything to do with the loss

1) O'Toole while having his own principles, flim-flammed on key topics like assault weapons and climate change. Traditional Cons felt he was too liberal.

2) Jason Kenney was hugely responsible in denting the Conservative image by single-handedly ensuring Alberta became a super-spreader province. While things looked bright at first with the economy bouncing back, delta managed to ravage the Healthcare system to the point that he has now had to ask for the military to step in and assist. All this after being praised by the Cons for handling the pandemic.

3) the Cons had their votes split by the rise of Mad Max and his ultra far right PPC

I'm not saying that the Chinese angle had no influence, I'm saying that there's a lot happening here at home that is ripping the Cons apart.
 
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I hardly doubt China as a topic had anything to do with the loss

1) O'Toole while having his own principles, flim-flammed on key topics like assault weapons and climate change. Traditional Cons felt he was too liberal.

2) Jason Kenney was hugely responsible in denting the Conservative image by single-handedly ensuring Alberta became a super-spreader province. While things looked bright at first with the economy bouncing back, delta managed to ravage the Healthcare system to the point that he has now had to ask for the military to step in and assist. All this after being praised by the Cons for handling the pandemic.

3) the Cons had their votes split by the rise of Mad Max and his ultra far right PPC

I'm not saying that the Chinese angle had no influence, I'm saying that there's a lot happening here at home that is ripping the Cons apart.

I disagree , my side won but we lost similar number of votes to the nazi part sorry PPC. The real reason for o tool losing was that he was not centrist enough. Most immigrants remember the white only immigration policies of Harper and his election promise to start a department of reducing immigrant barbaric cultural practices.
O tool started with these memories and did not move to the center enough in Ontario. To his dismay Rob ford is not highly rated either, although definitely not as bad as Jason Kenny. O’tools complete mishandling of the flip flop on vaccine mandates did not help him. In a country with 80% vaccination one does not flirt with anti vaxer ideas.

The main reason why the liberals my side did not get a majority was a snafu on fisheries and the block québécois somehow hiding their Racist qubec values bill as a sovereignty question in the English debate mostly due to o’tool.

the good thing that came out of the election was the electorate wanting a liberal lean checked by conservatives and somewhat NDP. They all also confirmed that there is no place for anti vaxer in Canada and they should all move back to the USA. I support banning all unvaccinated without an exemption from public places and would consider a proposal to ration the number of beds available to anti Vader’s in case they need ICU beds , choices have consequences

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I disagree , my side won but we lost similar number of votes to the nazi part sorry PPC. The real reason for o tool losing was that he was not centrist enough. Most immigrants remember the white only immigration policies of Harper and his election promise to start a department of reducing immigrant barbaric cultural practices.
O tool started with these memories and did not move to the center enough in Ontario. To his dismay Rob ford is not highly rated either, although definitely not as bad as Jason Kenny. O’tools complete mishandling of the flip flop on vaccine mandates did not help him. In a country with 80% vaccination one does not flirt with anti vaxer ideas.

The main reason why the liberals my side did not get a majority was a snafu on fisheries and the block québécois somehow hiding their Racist qubec values bill as a sovereignty question in the English debate mostly due to o’tool.

the good thing that came out of the election was the electorate wanting a liberal lean checked by conservatives and somewhat NDP. They all also confirmed that there is no place for anti vaxer in Canada and they should all move back to the USA. I support banning all unvaccinated without an exemption from public places and would consider a proposal to ration the number of beds available to anti Vader’s in case they need ICU beds , choices have consequences

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Exactly. That's what I meant with the flim-flamming. O'Toole had the potential to take it home, he just wanted to please everyone. And even if he did win, the old guard would ensure that traditional con values would govern regardless of O'Toole's stance on weapons, child care, climate change yada yada yada.

But what tipped the scales really was Jason Kenney, a guy vying to possibly compete with Ford for leadership of the party down the road. Thank God he's done in 2023.

As much as we would both like, we know the Charter/Constitution and the Hippocratic Oath will never ever be compromised with regards to treating anti-vaxxers. I actually would like to add to your last bit by saying that this is probably the most hardline I will ever be, but the Constitution and Charter needs to be suspended (or atleast the parts that govern health) and everyone forced to vaxx regardless of religious or moral reservations. We won't get anywhere by being like O'Toole, although I suppose it's a win that most of us don't think like these Petulant Peckerheads of Canada types.
 
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