A point was made as was a counterpoint. And also remember that so-called ''US aid in terms of Pakistans GDP is a barely even a percentage. If you want to have a debate, then learn the facts first. Dont dive into the deep end when you dont even know how to swim.
Pakistan remains dependent on the IMF and international assistance (US AID + Friends of Pak group) to keep the country solvent.....Do you think Pakistan has any pull whatsoever in the IMF?
Was it not the US that had to bail your country out by prodding the IMF to approve the much needed loan that would otherwise have led to a collapse of your economy/bankruptcy? The US aid only helps...
I suppose in your mind...thats not aid.....but hey we knew a lot of your kind was delusional to begin with...
I dont know, but at the same time its just shrug-worthy and can be flicked away casually like a spent Dunhill, since more often than not its hard to take anything indian says
sorry, but this is simply how a lot of us feel --at least its how I feel. I may be alone in this, I may not be.
Fair enough....and you're free to think so....considering the animosity Indians and Pakistanis exhibit on this forum...
The only point I was making was that stop looking for conspiracies in every nook and corner....Maybe sometimes Indians state facts to debate...not mock you...
So going by your logic....should we just disregard any POV of a Pakistani on Indian issues as biased and an attempt to mock?
From where Im sitting....Paranoia is the only word that comes to mind...
May I also remind you that our economy has suffered several hundred billion $ in damage when we joined the GWOT and when '' hit the fan circa 2008/09 and even to date, to some extent. The aid is mere peanuts when compared to the forgone economic opportunity & losses incurred which otherwise would have been realized gains ---free of ''aid
For starters....This is your war now....So start treating it like one....
Your economy has obviously suffered due to WOT....but you're not the only one....India has faced insurgencies in Punjab, Kashmir, NE and Maoists for over 3 decades now....We have also gone through terrorist attacks, bombings etc etc....Yet we have managed to come out of it and back to the top....and no doubt Pak will do the same...
But whats sad is that your army and politicians use the excuse of WOT as a crutch to disregard the glaring problems that face your country....
Lack of financial reforms, the promotion of fundamentalist mentality in your madrasas, lack of education all contribute more to your economic problems and prevent FDI than just the instance of an ongoing insurgency...
But all we hear from your side is that its America's war that Pakistan is suffering for economically....
I think unless this mentality changes and reforms are made accross the board.....you cant just isolate the WOT as the cause for your economic woes....
India is a large country with a healthy GDP growth rate. Its done well economically, though the growth has been uneven and unequal which is often the case in developing countries. I think Hindustan would be best served addressing its widespread poverty and social problems before becoming a so-called donor though that isnt my problem and none of my concern since Indian citizens are not my concern or priority.
You mentioned India as an aid recipient in the same line as Pakistan....I presented you with facts about what seperates us....
And India's problem is more with corruption than with programs to alleviate poverty and social issues....though thats not of concern for you....
For you, as Pakistan....you're facing an India that is exhorbitantly richer than you are in every field (as a nation)....Comparing yourself to the poor of India and finding solace in this equation is just selling yourself short...
And while we are all giving free funds advice....Pakistan would be much better served by concentrating on its economy, lack of education, social reforms, moving away from Islamic fundamentalism and reinging in your army/intelligence from supporting extremists than to compete with an India militarily....which at least in this decade is a lost cause for you..
nonsense, in my mind, is anti-Pakistan hysteria in hindustan
in your media and among your politicians who know politics real well by feeding lies to the public. A country where even pigeons get arrested for alleged ISI-links. That, to me, is true nonsense.
Do you really want to tread the line of your "politicians and leaders feeding lies to the public" when your own institutions (read army) have been selling the soveriegnty of your nation for a dime (since you dont consider it significant)?
Ill let you ponder over this before you decide to swim in that pool of your own piss...
It isnt what I prefer. I'm a nationalist. I want what's best for my country. I only care about the well-being and interests of Pakistan. And I will work towards them.
Arent we all?
Rather than what I prefer, its merely just pointing fingers at your own loopholes, utter failures and embarrassments which you tried to use to wage psy-ops on Pakistan. In hindisight, it was a miserably failed strategy. You'd be better served in solving the social problems and outstanding issues which lead to terrorism in hindustan --majority of which is domestic homegrown terrorism (e.g. in your restive northeast)
So Im assuming that you're one of those that believes that 26/11 was the hand of Amar Singh and not Ajmal Kasab....
Besides...when was it that terrorism (against civilians) was a tool used by the NE insurgents? Care to elaborate?
As far as we know...civilian terrorism has been the forte of our neighbors and their lap dogs in Kashmir...
Its invite only.
Bring something worthy to the mohagany table then talk.
Unfortunately it seems like the party comes to your table uninvited mostly....and rarely do they give a sh!t about your invitation or the "nalla" mahogany table....
I pray to god those party crashers stop intruding in your home as they have been doing for the past decade....
