confused sindhi

[A.Rafay]

and me to.
looks like i found my lost brother on PDF.

Welcome from where are you in sindh?

 

[mehboobkz]

Welcome from where are you in sindh?

Sindhi too.
From Nawabshah

 

[A.Rafay]

Sindhi too.
From Nawabshah

I am from Karachi, my grandfather was from Khairpur.

 

[mehboobkz]

I am from Karachi, my grandfather was from Khairpur.

My uncle from Mirpur

Anyway, khair kar baba..

 

[SQ8]

Nothing is permanent. It was a mistake. It is still possible to partition Sindh some opportune moment in the future. Difficult, may be, but not impossible.

Which is probably why the current IAF chief made the hypocritical statement of "Dont have territorial designs except to correct some historical mistakes".. which is akin to saying "I dont want to have anything to do with drugs except perhaps heroin or Meth later".

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Which is probably why the current IAF chief made the hypocritical statement of "Dont have territorial designs except to correct some historical mistakes".. which is akin to saying "I dont want to have anything to do with drugs except perhaps heroin or Meth later".

Exactly. See Oscar, I don't claim moral superiority. I would not do that if it serves my (national) interests. Following a Nehruvian Fabian idealistic line suits the conscience but leaves you with nothing. I am not privy to India's long term strategic designs, but I won't find it surprising if we take opportunities once they appear. The only good thing about this is that the entire policy remains centrally and firmly controlled by us (like for example the control of the Mukti Bahini) and not left to completely independent actors.

Of course, the IA chief may have something entirely different in his mind. It is possible that India means no harm to Pakistan at all. But I stated what I would have done had I been at the top.

EDIT: Can't find the quote of the IA chief. Please provide a link.

 

[SQ8]

Regardless, I shall go ahead with my plans to visit Pakistan and also check out the northern areas, if I can spare the time.

Long story short. If you want to find out about Sindh and Sindhi culture, Pakistan is your destination. If you want to go to a place where eye brows are not lifted at your Hindu lineage.. go to India. That being said,my largest investor is a Sindhi Hindu whose business is all in Pakistan and will continue to be. They all do however want to have a second option or exit plan in case things do go to the nutjobs.

 

[SQ8]

Exactly. See Oscar, I don't claim moral superiority. I would not do that if it serves my (national) interests. Following a Nehruvian Fabian idealistic line suits the conscience but leaves you with nothing. I am not privy to India's long term strategic designs, but I won't find it surprising if we take opportunities once they appear. The only good thing about this is that the entire policy remains centrally and firmly controlled by us (like for example the control of the Mukti Bahini) and not left to completely independent actors.

Of course, the IA chief may have something entirely different in his mind. It is possible that India means no harm to Pakistan at all. But I stated what I would have done had I been at the top.

EDIT: Can't find the quote of the IA chief. Please provide a link.

Well, disconnected from this idea but on the lines of blurred identity. One should read Maulana Azads "India wins freedom".but read it with a different title and you will see it very differently.. read it titled "A Lament on Partition".

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Long story short. If you want to find out about Sindh and Sindhi culture, Pakistan is your destination. If you want to go to a place where eye brows are not lifted at your Hindu lineage.. go to India. That being said,my largest investor is a Sindhi Hindu whose business is all in Pakistan and will continue to be. They all do however want to have a second option or exit plan in case things do go to the nutjobs.

Don't scare him. He does not need to pronounce his Hinduness to all when he is there. He should be fine.

Well, disconnected from this idea but on the lines of blurred identity. One should read Maulana Azads "India wins freedom".but read it with a different title and you will see it very differently.. read it titled "A Lament on Partition".

You have become a tragic hero! Are you reading Greek tragedies?
200 years from now generations will curse us. We deserve it.

 

[jarves]

That's true. I'd like to admit that my mini 'identity crisis' first came about when I started high school and my peers asked me about my background. I just told them that I'm Indian because that's pretty much how my parents identify themselves in public, although they ditch the term and identify themselves as 'Sindhi' when they're in the presence of other South Asians. I ended up digging one day and interrogated my nani about her past <> because I was curious about my identity, and she told me about the partition and everything else (she also identifies as Indian). When we fill out official forms, we've always ticked the "Asian Indian" box instead of the "Other Asian" box (which has Pakistani in small print next to it). So as you can see, I've had a somewhat confusing childhood. I think the effect is more profound for me because I'm just a third-gen American as opposed to my white friends who have American ancestors from like the 1800's. I wonder how my new-found knowledge will affect how I officially identify myself when I grow up. As progressive as America is, there is still a lot of emphasis on labels.

You should come to India also.Whichever country you like better,you can attribute yourself to that nationality.HAHAHA..

 

[SQ8]

You have become a tragic hero! Are you reading Greek tragedies?
200 years from now generations will curse us. We deserve it.

Nope, never read the Iliad even. Look, there is a whole generation of kids in Jammu who grew up watching Pakistan Television..and shows like "angan Terha", "Einak wala Jinn" whilst singing alone to Vital Signs.. and Ive met these people.
Point being, I am vociferously a Muslim.. my identity is First a Muslim and I will identity with that. I will fight to ensure that those rights of mine are protected regarding my religion and way of life..and Ill fight for my equality.. some people insist that the Kashmiri rights and independence movement is dead.. I'd point them to Scotland..which while being part of possibly one of the most progressive societies in the world still had an independence referendum with close(and debated) results. So as long as the idea of being deprived(from another party) exists, there will always be social angst.

That being said,I feel the most comfortable around people who speak my language,eat similar to what I eat..and dress to what I dress like once I believe that a certain Maslow Pyramid level is reached. Of all the various accounts of partition and the process of partition.. there will always be blame games and so forth..and there will always be those who believe that people like Iqbal and Jinnah never really wanted an independent state...but a more equal division of power..and were pushed into it by Nehru's Stubborn attitude.. just as there will always be those that insist that a Muslim homeland is necessary for Ghazwa-e-Hind or that getting rid of the Muslas was the best thing that happened to India.

I just feel that 200 years later, when there are acute shortages of food and water and resources.. you would wish you were part of a bigger collective so to not stand alone against the even bigger fish.

 

[Men in Green]

Welcome from where are you in sindh?

Karachi.

 

[dil_dil]

Nothing is permanent. It was a mistake. It is still possible to partition Sindh some opportune moment in the future. Difficult, may be, but not impossible.

Nepali apni auqaat mat bolo.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Nope, never read the Iliad even. Look, there is a whole generation of kids in Jammu who grew up watching Pakistan Television..and shows like "angan Terha", "Einak wala Jinn" whilst singing alone to Vital Signs.. and Ive met these people.
Point being, I am vociferously a Muslim.. my identity is First a Muslim and I will identity with that. I will fight to ensure that those rights of mine are protected regarding my religion and way of life..and Ill fight for my equality.. some people insist that the Kashmiri rights and independence movement is dead.. I'd point them to Scotland..which while being part of possibly one of the most progressive societies in the world still had an independence referendum with close(and debated) results. So as long as the idea of being deprived(from another party) exists, there will always be social angst.

That being said,I feel the most comfortable around people who speak my language,eat similar to what I eat..and dress to what I dress like once I believe that a certain Maslow Pyramid level is reached. Of all the various accounts of partition and the process of partition.. there will always be blame games and so forth..and there will always be those who believe that people like Iqbal and Jinnah never really wanted an independent state...but a more equal division of power..and were pushed into it by Nehru's Stubborn attitude.. just as there will always be those that insist that a Muslim homeland is necessary for Ghazwa-e-Hind or that getting rid of the Muslas was the best thing that happened to India.

I just feel that 200 years later, when there are acute shortages of food and water and resources.. you would wish you were part of a bigger collective so to not stand alone against the even bigger fish.

Scary ending statements.

 

[Jit]

I don't find a Pakthun or Baloch very Indian. In fact, they are not Indian in any aspect. Historically, culturally, ethnically etc. There might be some similarities between some Pakistani regions that border India, but that's all. Pakistan is compromised of so many ethnicities that calling it "India" is just plain ridiculous. Pakistan is a melting pot of so many ethnicities and races. It's a very fascinating country.

I don't find a Pakthun or Baloch very Indian. In fact, they are not Indian in any aspect. Historically, culturally, ethnically etc. There might be some similarities between some Pakistani regions that border India, but that's all. Pakistan is compromised of so many ethnicities that calling it "India" is just plain ridiculous. Pakistan is a melting pot of so many ethnicities and races. It's a very fascinating country.

partly correct. The Punjabis and Sindhis are very Indian and form 56%+ of the total population. Add the Serakis which I think is another 10%? And 70% of languages spoken are from the Indian side of the Indo-Iranian family.

Some Pakistanis do deny their Indian origin thus insulting their own anscestors! Why be ashamed of ones own parentage?