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Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters and Moro National Liberation Front are not signing the peace pact, only MILF will.

Hahaha both MILF and the MNLF sign peace pact only the Miswari Group due to stupidity of its leader drifted from the MNLF and so as BIFF which are all run by morons just like yourself again anti filipino nonsense

Why I'm not surprised that wholegrain is painting the "whole" philippine "christian"people killing people just because they're not christians...

Ya so Imperialism is your answer as in lands and water full or minerals and other resources
 
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Hope you racist, imperialist, crusading terrorists gave the Moros a good deal.
 
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Why I'm not surprised that wholegrain is painting the "whole" philippine "christian"people killing people just because they're not christians...

I only mentioned Christianity because Lux de Veritas is a Christian and he only attacks southeast asian Muslim countries and never criticizes the Philippines. His posts all take on a religious bias, he is against both Misuari-MNLF and Malaysia just because both are Muslim even though Misuari and Malaysia are against each other. I'm not against Christians. I criticized people like ephone, who is against all religions including Christianity.

Lux de Veritas complained about Libya arming Moro groups, but Libya also armed Christian and animist separatists as well in several countries. Libya's agenda was not about religion.

Muammar Gaddafi's secret war against Indonesia and the Philippines (and France)

Hahaha both MILF and the MNLF sign peace pact only the Miswari Group due to stupidity of its leader drifted from the MNLF and so as BIFF which are all run by morons just like yourself again anti filipino nonsense



Ya so Imperialism is your answer as in lands and water full or minerals and other resources

And what does this have to do with me making posts on clashes which were reported by Philippine media itself? These actually happened and are verified by the Philippines itself, not unsubstantiated rumors. Whenever one of these groups starts an incident or an attack I just post a link to the article. Some MILF units still clash with pro-government militia fighters even though they are signing the peace deal, and then some MILF and MNLF units clash with each other, and BIFF launches attacks on the Philippine military.

If you want the clashes to stop, the pro-government Filipino militia fighters should disarm. If a peace deal is being signed, why do they still need their weapons?

It is exactly because there are splinter groups like Misuari's faction of the MNLF and the BIFF that the peace deal isn't going to work, since there isn't a single unified voice speaking for the Moros, but several conflicting factions with different interests. They will still go on fighting and clashing because of this.

 
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I only mentioned Christianity because Lux de Veritas is a Christian and he only attacks southeast asian Muslim countries and never criticizes the Philippines. His posts all take on a religious bias, he is against both Misuari-MNLF and Malaysia just because both are Muslim even though Misuari and Malaysia are against each other. I'm not against Christians. I criticized people like ephone, who is against all religions including Christianity.

Lux de Veritas complained about Libya arming Moro groups, but Libya also armed Christian and animist separatists as well in several countries. Libya's agenda was not about religion.

Muammar Gaddafi's secret war against Indonesia and the Philippines (and France)



And what does this have to do with me making posts on clashes which were reported by Philippine media itself? These actually happened and are verified by the Philippines itself, not unsubstantiated rumors. Whenever one of these groups starts an incident or an attack I just post a link to the article. Some MILF units still clash with pro-government militia fighters even though they are signing the peace deal, and then some MILF and MNLF units clash with each other, and BIFF launches attacks on the Philippine military.

If you want the clashes to stop, the pro-government Filipino militia fighters should disarm. If a peace deal is being signed, why do they still need their weapons?

It is exactly because there are splinter groups like Misuari's faction of the MNLF and the BIFF that the peace deal isn't going to work, since there isn't a single unified voice speaking for the Moros, but several conflicting factions with different interests. They will still go on fighting and clashing because of this.

Again wrong in every turn and again full anti filipino bull as far as the eye could see
 
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I only mentioned Christianity because Lux de Veritas is a Christian and he only attacks southeast asian Muslim countries and never criticizes the Philippines. His posts all take on a religious bias, he is against both Misuari-MNLF and Malaysia just because both are Muslim even though Misuari and Malaysia are against each other. I'm not against Christians. I criticized people like ephone, who is against all religions including Christianity.

Lux de Veritas complained about Libya arming Moro groups, but Libya also armed Christian and animist separatists as well in several countries. Libya's agenda was not about religion.

Muammar Gaddafi's secret war against Indonesia and the Philippines (and France)



And what does this have to do with me making posts on clashes which were reported by Philippine media itself? These actually happened and are verified by the Philippines itself, not unsubstantiated rumors. Whenever one of these groups starts an incident or an attack I just post a link to the article. Some MILF units still clash with pro-government militia fighters even though they are signing the peace deal, and then some MILF and MNLF units clash with each other, and BIFF launches attacks on the Philippine military.

If you want the clashes to stop, the pro-government Filipino militia fighters should disarm. If a peace deal is being signed, why do they still need their weapons?

It is exactly because there are splinter groups like Misuari's faction of the MNLF and the BIFF that the peace deal isn't going to work, since there isn't a single unified voice speaking for the Moros, but several conflicting factions with different interests. They will still go on fighting and clashing because of this.

This Wholegrain seems to fail English and a liar. Since when did I complain Libya arming Muslim? I am among the most fervent supporter to Christian attacker in PDF, especially when I see them helping Christian to purge themselves.

I am also a supporter of Islam.

You should stop being a clown.

To all Pinoys, these Wholegrain got a lot of flaws in his arguments and it is not too difficult to attack this person. I attack his Islamofacism mongering but unfortunately, PDF ban me for this, and remove all my posting. Let him talk first, and see how he spill shitt.... etc. Also he appears to be a paid commenter. Read his previous post you will know.
 
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Everyone,

Please debate with specifics, (preferably backed by references) rather than throwing names at each other.

Thank you.
 
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Everyone,

Please debate with specifics, (preferably backed by references) rather than throwing names at each other.

Thank you.

That would be good if this a normal discussion but the points made here are just purely anti filipino in nature nothing more besides a peace deal was already sign so this slander of thread is just again anti filipino propaganda design by chinese imperialist d bags and their supporters
 
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That would be good if this a normal discussion but the points made here are just purely anti filipino in nature nothing more besides a peace deal was already sign so this slander of thread is just again anti filipino propaganda design by chinese imperialist d bags and their supporters

Both sides should present the evidence and readers can decide what to believe.

Attacking each other doesn't help either side.
 
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Both sides should present the evidence and readers can decide what to believe.

Attacking each other doesn't help either side.

Good then thanks for the reminder but again forcing an issue long dead is not academic at all just mud throwing
 
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Really sad to see Moro Islamist shitting on PRC. I support PRC but many PDF PRC here cheers Islamist. sob sob....

Kidnappers demand ransom of RM36.4 million for Chinese tourist, says home minister - The Malaysian Insider

On April 2, Chinese tourist Gao Hua Yuan, 29, and Filipina resort worker Marcy Darawan, 40, were abducted from the Singamata Reef Resort in Semporna by seven gunmen believed to be linked to the Abu Sayyaf militant group.

Kidnapping, a Philippines pastime | NBC News

MANILA, Philippines, June 19 — Kidnapping and ransom-taking have become a way of life in the Philippines. And even though a group of independence-seeking Muslim rebels has captured headlines by taking dozens of prisoners, the goal of hostage-takers is often less ideological than financial. In a society where the gap between rich and poor is as daunting to bridge as the waters that separate the Philippine archipelago of some 7,000 islands, kidnapping has been part of the local culture for decades.

NO MORE LOFTY IDEALS

Even the Abu Sayyaf leaders themselves no longer proclaim lofty political ideals, as they had since surfacing as a serious threat in 1995. Instead, they have concentrated their efforts on million-dollar ransom demands.

In last year’s Malaysian attack, for instance, the Muslim rebels held nearly two dozen mostly European hostages for several months, until Manila caved in and allowed Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi — himself accused of complicity in several international terror attacks — to provide at least several million dollars of ransom money. In return, he made an invaluable appearance on the world stage as a freedom-winner. All but one Filipino hostage were released.

Christian Filipino police and army history of preying on Chinese, or "shitting" as Lux De veritas calls it

Philippine sources say that during the rule of former president Estrada, kidnappings of rich Chinese-Filipino businessmen flourished in Manila and led to millions of dollars in ransom payments to several bandit groups.

Abu Sayyaf is pathetic compared to what the Filipino army and police like to do to their Chinese community

Kidnapping of Ethnic Chinese Rises in Philippines - New York Times

Chinese-Filipinos Protest Ransom Kidnappings - New York Times

In Manila, Kidnapping as a Business Expense - New York Times

Kidnap season has Chinese on edge - Chicago Tribune

Crime against foreigners in the Philippines |

Chinese big business in the Philippines: political leadership and change - Theresa C. Cariño - Google Books

Annual Editions: Violence and Terrorism 03/04 - Thomas J. Badey - Google Books

Beijing Review - Google Books

Vengeful majorities

AMY CHUA

Review: World on Fire by Amy Chua | Books | The Guardian

Conversation with Amy Chua, p. 2 of 6

State and Society in the Philippines - Patricio N. Abinales, Donna J. Amoroso - Google Books

Encyclopedia of Crime and Punishment - Google Books

The Philippines: A Singular and a Plural Place - David Joel Steinberg - Google Books

Inhuman Conditions: On Cosmopolitanism and Human Rights - Pheng CHEAH, Pheng Cheah - Google Books

http://books.google.com/books?id=cV...a=X&ei=_idMU6vALOnNsQTvnIHoAQ&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA

Chinese cosmopolitanism in two senses and postcolonial national memory - Pheng Cheah - Google Books

The Likhaan Book of Philippine Criticism, 1992-1997 - J. Neil C. Garcia - Google Books

Figures of Criminality in Indonesia, the Philippines, and Colonial Vietnam - Google Books

Figures of Criminality in Indonesia, the Philippines, and Colonial Vietnam - Google Books

Figures of Criminality in Indonesia, the Philippines, and Colonial Vietnam - Google Books

Unveiling Traditions: Postcolonial Islam in a Polycentric World - Anouar Majid - Google Books

Narrating Race: Asia, (trans)nationalism, Social Change - Google Books

Culture and Privilege in Capitalist Asia - Google Books

Annual Editions: Violence and Terrorism 03/04 - Thomas J. Badey - Google Books
 
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Oh ya.... Below shows how much Pinoy hate Chinese.... Oh ya....

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Kidnapping, a Philippines pastime | NBC News

MANILA, Philippines, June 19 — Kidnapping and ransom-taking have become a way of life in the Philippines. And even though a group of independence-seeking Muslim rebels has captured headlines by taking dozens of prisoners, the goal of hostage-takers is often less ideological than financial. In a society where the gap between rich and poor is as daunting to bridge as the waters that separate the Philippine archipelago of some 7,000 islands, kidnapping has been part of the local culture for decades.

NO MORE LOFTY IDEALS

Even the Abu Sayyaf leaders themselves no longer proclaim lofty political ideals, as they had since surfacing as a serious threat in 1995. Instead, they have concentrated their efforts on million-dollar ransom demands.

In last year’s Malaysian attack, for instance, the Muslim rebels held nearly two dozen mostly European hostages for several months, until Manila caved in and allowed Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi — himself accused of complicity in several international terror attacks — to provide at least several million dollars of ransom money. In return, he made an invaluable appearance on the world stage as a freedom-winner. All but one Filipino hostage were released.

Christian Filipino police and army history of preying on Chinese, or "shitting" as Lux De veritas calls it

Philippine sources say that during the rule of former president Estrada, kidnappings of rich Chinese-Filipino businessmen flourished in Manila and led to millions of dollars in ransom payments to several bandit groups.

Abu Sayyaf is pathetic compared to what the Filipino army and police like to do to their Chinese community

Kidnapping of Ethnic Chinese Rises in Philippines - New York Times

Chinese-Filipinos Protest Ransom Kidnappings - New York Times

In Manila, Kidnapping as a Business Expense - New York Times

Kidnap season has Chinese on edge - Chicago Tribune

Crime against foreigners in the Philippines |

Chinese big business in the Philippines: political leadership and change - Theresa C. Cariño - Google Books

Annual Editions: Violence and Terrorism 03/04 - Thomas J. Badey - Google Books

Beijing Review - Google Books

Vengeful majorities

AMY CHUA

Review: World on Fire by Amy Chua | Books | The Guardian

Conversation with Amy Chua, p. 2 of 6

State and Society in the Philippines - Patricio N. Abinales, Donna J. Amoroso - Google Books

Encyclopedia of Crime and Punishment - Google Books

The Philippines: A Singular and a Plural Place - David Joel Steinberg - Google Books

Inhuman Conditions: On Cosmopolitanism and Human Rights - Pheng CHEAH, Pheng Cheah - Google Books

http://books.google.com/books?id=cVkSYhplwGEC&pg=PA136&dq=When a graduate student from the University of the Philippines was asked if she was disturbed by the spate of kidnappings, she replied, "No, because I am not Chinese and I am not rich."11 But is this identification of the cosmopolitanism of the ...&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_idMU6vALOnNsQTvnIHoAQ&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA

Chinese cosmopolitanism in two senses and postcolonial national memory - Pheng Cheah - Google Books

The Likhaan Book of Philippine Criticism, 1992-1997 - J. Neil C. Garcia - Google Books

Figures of Criminality in Indonesia, the Philippines, and Colonial Vietnam - Google Books

Figures of Criminality in Indonesia, the Philippines, and Colonial Vietnam - Google Books

Figures of Criminality in Indonesia, the Philippines, and Colonial Vietnam - Google Books

Unveiling Traditions: Postcolonial Islam in a Polycentric World - Anouar Majid - Google Books

Narrating Race: Asia, (trans)nationalism, Social Change - Google Books

Culture and Privilege in Capitalist Asia - Google Books

Annual Editions: Violence and Terrorism 03/04 - Thomas J. Badey - Google Books
 
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LOL, it was under those mestizo Presidents in which Chinese were kidnapped and preyed upon by the Philippine policy and army.

If was under this mestizo President Aquino in which the Hong Kong tourists were massacred in the Philippines, and in which Filipino coastguard murdered a Taiwanese fisherman.

It was President Marcos who massacred tons of innocent people, both Filipino, Chinese, and Moro.

I think Mao kill more people isnt it. He say ok to kill 50% PRC.
 
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@Wholegrain

You know calling one mestizo but not of White and Native Indian ancestry are considered a racial slur?

That's the same as calling a Mexican Chicano while he is not of White and Mexican Native, that literally translated to bastard or mixture of race)

I don't believe Aquino is of white and native Indian ancestry

Can you delete the word as this is quite disrespecting indeed

The Racial Slur Database
 
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