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Competing with India!

Nah seriously mate,at this rate you'll be perma banned in no time.Personally i would hate to see one of the sanest Pakistani posters getting banned on account of being a false flagged Pakistani member,hence you must be a bit careful from now on.Being a member for more than 2 years i have seen many sane posters getting banned for posting matters which was uncomfortable to the Pakistani citizens even if they were the truth.Hence posting these kinds of stuff may land you in some serious trouble in this forum:coffee:.
If some Pakistanis (including me) are not in accord to his point of view then that doesnt means he is a false flagger.
He is one respectable member in this community and he shouldnt be worried about anything.
 
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Pakistan is under attack from both the US and India. Only the former has a defense expenditure to GDP ratio three times that of Pakistan, which means we are spending 25% of what we should be if we want to do no more than registering our demand to be a sovereign state! As for GDP nevertheless, we should not give visas should not conduct trade and should not take aid from either of these enemies. let's replace them with THEIR enemies! Once it get's difficult enough for their intel agencies to walk around in Pakistan, our entrepreneurs and engineers/scientists will fix the economy anyway. Another thing to keep in mind in HSR/transit trade. We should invest in the khungerab/gwadar/taftan route and liberally give the visas etc. As Asia is tied together by these HSR links, India will hand over kashmir etc anyway!
 
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Thank god... Some Pakistanis are coming out with the truth, and ironically its not going to change the minds of PDF Pakistanis.
 
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This article is so wrong on many accounts, I don't even know where to start from.

World relationships are based on security the author says, so perhaps he hasn't heard of 'war on terror' where Pakistan has been fighting a decade long war, which has been serving the purpose of the US, or at least thats how it started. Pakistan was declared a non-NATO ally. Pakistan has suffered more than any other country on the face of earth, thanks to siding with the US. Isn't that enough for 'security' to base the relationship on?

As for trade, Pakistan has been asking for a trade agreement or at least market access for ages now, which would have been a fair deal given what Pakistan has been going through due to the mess largely created by the US and its cronies.

The author says politically Pakistan is seen as nuisance, again he doesn't seem to have a clue of how much Pakistan has suffered during this war, economically and socially, not to mention the more than 50,000 innocent lives lost. Should Pakistan just bleed along without caring for its interests? if not giving up totally and becoming the 51st state of the US makes Pakistan political nuisance, then the problem doesn't lie with Pakistan.

As for security versus economic strength, you have a 10 times bigger enemy on the East, a volatile lawless country on the West so you don't have to be a genius to know how important security is. This is of course debatable question but there are more intelligent people with a better resume that I would like to read on this topic than this failed bureaucrat who has nothing to his credit. (by the way, wouldn't the writer agree the same applies to India?)

And finally, I am glad the US president didn't come to Pakistan, specially at this point of time when our soldiers are busy fighting a war against TTP. A photo session of Obama with the Army Chief would have given credence to the TTP old claim that Pakistan Army fights the US war, which is not true, at least this time around.
 
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Because the few intellectuals you have are trying their level best to drill it into your heads. There is a dire need to change course as the present one is leading Pakistan deeper into the rabbit hole.

And the sooner you realize this the better.
Rabbit hole? if you hadn't checked Pakistan is recovering,god know what you are talking about?

Thank god... Some Pakistanis are coming out with the truth, and ironically its not going to change the minds of PDF Pakistanis.
Didn't know, there was a difference between PDF Pakistanis and other Pakistanis.
 
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Pakistan will not win this war on terror.

Russia lost to to them
USA will pull out and lose.

And the terror groups will inflitrate the Pakistani military and secret service eventually
 
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You are right, Libya and Syria are models for political stability, unlike USA or Britain or India. And USSR was so good an economic system, that the gods felt jealous and took it away from them.

were usa and britain invaded by 35+ militaries, preceeded by months of terrorist activity through thousands of criminals who entered those two nations like cockroaches??

come back to the real world, sir... seems you were on mars from 2011 until today.

"political stability"... what an argument !!! any two-bit mediocre nation can be "politically stable" by being selfish and only working for "national interests" and backstabbing others and having no principled stand on rights and wrongs.
 
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The conclusions were spot on: the only way Pakistan can compete with India is to double its per capita income and reduce its poverty by half. But seems even in per capita income too Pakistan is lagging behind and the future too is not looking great. According to IMF forecasts by 2019 India's per capita will be $8200 to $5200 of Pakistan.
 
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The writer is an economist and a former adviser to the Sindh chief minister on planning and development

US President Barack Obama’s visit to India as chief guest for the country’s Republic Day celebrations has evoked amusing reactions in Pakistan. Of course, there is peeve at the fact that the US president has chosen to visit India and bypass Pakistan. However, gone are the days when the world treated India and Pakistan on a par and foreign dignitaries considered it a diplomatic necessity to visit Islamabad when visiting New Delhi and vice versa.

Islamabad has accepted the situation as a fait accompli; however, American presidential visits remain an exception. Earlier, when former president Clinton visited India, Pakistani diplomats moved heaven and earth to implore him to add Pakistan to his itinerary; and he obliged with a four-hour visit.

Currently, the Pakistan Foreign Office has adopted a responsible position and refrained from any comment. A section of the media has, however, gone overboard with hysteria and exaggerated pique, particularly by overnight-born experts — ex-generals, stand-alone politicians, news analysts, etc. — who are smarting the most on account of President Obama’s India visit sans Pakistan.

Pakistan has to realise that world affairs are not carried out according to the figments of imagination of the country’s officially-sponsored intelligentsia. The nations of the world are engaged in serious relationships based on trade and security. No world leader will visit Pakistan if there is nothing substantial to talk about. No one has the time to add a day to their route merely to pander to Islamabad’s pretensions about parity with India.

Pakistan will have to accept hard facts and introspect the actual situation. And the fact is that Pakistan has little weight in the international arena, politically and economically. Politically, it is viewed as a nuisance at best and a threat to international security at worst. Economically, it is considered a basket case and a seemingly eternal candidate for bailouts. And it has little international sympathy for its claims of terrorism victimhood, as it is viewed as being bitten by the snakes it has itself bred in its backyard.

If Pakistan is desirous of being taken seriously by the world community, it will have to move on two fronts. One, it will have to be honest and serious about eliminating all forms of terrorism, including the mindset that considers terrorism legitimate. Pakistan cannot expect to be respected when murderers, a la Mumtaz Qadri, are treated as heroes and government prosecution lawyers are reluctant to proceed against him. Pakistan will also have to produce a new narrative on Kashmir, as the only audience for the old narrative is Pakistan itself.

Pakistan’s knee-jerk response to the emerging India-US strategic partnership is to adopt China as an alternative patron-saint. This move is abjectly unwise. Firstly, no one respects camp-followers of one power or the other. And secondly, reliance on Chinese shoulders to lean on may prove to be unstable as, after all, China, too, is cognisant of India’s rise and will not construct its regional foreign policy to suit the needs of a declining entity that is incessantly in a state of political and economic crisis.

The second front on which Pakistan will need to effect changes is to adopt economic and social development as the primary agenda of the state and second grade the external security agenda. It has to be accepted and incorporated — in belief and policymaking — in all policy corridors — that Pakistan’s security essentially lies in its economic strength and not in its nuclear arsenal or in military posturing. This reassessment will require significant restructuring of economic policy.

If the author is suggesting that we should cut back on expenditure for our military, he is backstabbing the nation.

We know, after long experience over 67 years, that India is not our well-wisher. The violence that accompanied Partition was, as Quaid-i-Azam stated right then, the result of a well-directed conspiracy meant to undermine the new Muslim state. The desired to undermine Pakistan has continued unabated since then, and has manifested itself in the creation of Bangladesh and the current troubles with the TTP and the BLA, both of whom are covertly Indian-backed.

What we spend on the Army has paid off for us in the form of our continued survival, against all odds, as a unified country, in contrast to, say, Iraq, or Somalia, or Syria. If it were not for the Pakistan Army, we would be overrun by the TTP and the BLA the way Iraq and Syria have been overrun by ISIS.

The way forward for Pakistan is to find some way of dealing with the culture of corruption among our civilian fake-elected politicians, who continue to freely loot the national wealth while leaving the rest of the country staggering in poverty and misery. The dharnas gave it a good shot, though we all saw how many shameless flunkies of the ruling classes came out to defend them against very legitimate criticisms.

The problem lies with the political culture of greed, corruption, and gangsterism. That is where the solution must be found.
 
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