Comparison between Gemany and Pakistan Airforce

[ayesha.a]

I think you missed few words here and there. No problem.
I guess you mean to say PA or the matter of fact IA is sufficiently loaded to take on any army. Well Let me break this bubble. We SAians are no where even near to winning a war with German Army. For starters our MBTs dose not show a candle to Leaopard MBT. We may give a good fight but we will be fighting a lost cause.

Also to remind you, no one in this day and age no one just brings army or navy alone to the battlefield. They fight like a single force. Even if they have, on paper, weak army the co-ordinated attack by their forces (land air and sea) can leave a way bigger force with a bloody nose. And don't forget they are frigging Germans !!

Elaborate your hypothetical scenario. Where is this war taking place? Is Pak or India attempting to invade Germany? Or the other way round? Or is the war taking place somewhere in between, say Iran?

There is no way - no friggin way - that Germany (by herself) can bring fighting forces into India, or even Pakistan for that matter, and win. Any such expedition will be annihilated. Even if they use 100% of their naval assets to bring enough fighting forces to Pakistan, the PA and PAF will be able to defeat them. In India's case, they will not reach Indian shores - the IN is more than capable of destroying any seaborne expeditionary groups they can bring. And in the unlikely scenario that they land on Indian shores, they will be outnumbered 10:1 or more by Indian forces.

Expeditionary war is extremely difficult in this day and age, because of missiles and satellites and surveillance aircrafts. Only the USA has enough expeditionary capability to bring a fight to India and win. And Germany cannot even do that to Pakistan.

a man only have to be killed once now isn't he?
PLUS the weaponry Pakistan or for that matter Indian army posses is capable enough to compete with an other army force, it is the air force and navy where we (Pakistan) in army our artillery, tanks, MBRL are not something that the enemy, a wise enemy will take for granted.

Are you sure about the underlined part? From what I know, European and American armies outclass us in terms of mechanization, communications, heliborne capability, NVGs etc. Look at the number of helicopters, transport or attack, alloted to a brigade in each army. Or the number and quality of comm devices. Or the degree of mechanization.

 

[Koovie]

Yes, better use some weird newspaper articles without proper arguing as a base for these rankings.

 

[Arsalan]

I think you missed few words here and there. No problem.
I guess you mean to say PA or the matter of fact IA is sufficiently loaded to take on any army. Well Let me break this bubble. We SAians are no where even near to winning a war with German Army. For starters our MBTs dose not show a candle to Leaopard MBT. We may give a good fight but we will be fighting a lost cause.

Also to remind you, no one in this day and age no one just brings army or navy alone to the battlefield. They fight like a single force. Even if they have, on paper, weak army the co-ordinated attack by their forces (land air and sea) can leave a way bigger force with a bloody nose. And don't forget they are frigging Germans !!

Well that is what i said initially, perhaps you missed that post. For this very reason (that you have correctly pointed) i compared all army, air force and navy separately, as that was just a theoretical comparison. ON ground, all these will be working as well organized integrated force and will present a new challenge altogether. Regarding you or us not being able to come CLOSE to leopard, i doubt that but wont like to make it a VS thread. We know what we have got and know its capability, not stating our machine are SUPERIOR but just that it is not INFERIOR either. Integrated forces like air force and army working together, a different ball game. Also as i pointed, it is not only this, the geo political situation, your economy, you ALLIANCES all will matter, not only matter but play an equally important role in determining the outcome of war.

Are you sure about the underlined part? From what I know, European and American armies outclass us in terms of mechanization, communications, heliborne capability, NVGs etc. Look at the number of helicopters, transport or attack, alloted to a brigade in each army. Or the number and quality of comm devices. Or the degree of mechanization.

True,, i am sorry i got everyone confused. I am not talking about a POSSIBLE scenario, was comparing machines one on one, that wont be a case in war time. Integrated battle groups will be a different challenge but due to the reasons you have yourself mentioned in this very post, i agree that stating Germany will be able to come and conquer Pakistan or India all on its own is a bit over board.

 

[ALexxy87]

If German army comes to subcontinent to invade India or Pak....they can be(and likely to be) outnumbered.....it will be very difficult for them to achieve naval and/or air superiority.....only the mighty US army has the adequate resources to start an expedition against a decent power in their own land......and to start an war in Germany...if you forget the word 'Nuke' for a while...no one...I repeat no one can crush them alone in their own land....(I doubt even US army alone can do it)....and if it happens in a 3rd place...then also we (both India and Pak) is sure to taste defeat....remember that the real power is in their industrialization,huge technical knowledge and robust economy....they have weapons in small numbers only because they don't need them in near future in large numbers.....but all are made by themselves.....so if necessary....they can use their huge industrial strength in manufacturing them in very short notice....we, the countries dependant on others for arms can't even be counted to be decent adversaries to them.

 

[posedion]

German Industrial complex can produce so much hardware if it wants, one thing we and pak lack

 

[Suman]

whose " he" ?

so next would you be debating about PAF Vs Martian air force ??

Chup kar, I told, somebody commenting on Youtube, he was saying Pakistan is top 7th strongest Air Force in the world, to enlighten him, I said it is not 7th but 17th in the world. To usne nahi mana aur ye sabhi bolte raha woh statistics.

 

[Arsalan]

Chup kar, I told, somebody commenting on Youtube, he was saying Pakistan is top 7th strongest Air Force in the world, to enlighten him, I said it is not 7th but 17th in the world. To usne nahi mana aur ye sabhi bolte raha woh statistics.

bahi, kasoor tumhara apna ha jo youtube pa kisi sa bahis krny lag paray....
These are the internet warriors and we both have LOTS of them we call them trolls here however

 

[Midas]

Actually, Germany is highly influential country. They just need to talk to few in UAE and KSA, and they will keep Pakistan busy.

 

[Suman]

bahi, kasoor tumhara apna ha jo youtube pa kisi sa bahis krny lag paray....
These are the internet warriors and we both have LOTS of them we call them trolls here however

haha, am always busy in youtube haha

 

[Super Commando Dhruva]

Can your prime minister say this to German chancellor "Back home they are saying we are much stronger and powerful than you) What would be be he reaction ????

You back offFF

Go back and don't come back again.

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