Come and get our uranium, Ambassador tells India

[justanobserver]

^^
Yeah he's highly qualified, but too old. Personally I'm sick of the Cong, two terms are enough. Nationalism time

 

[KS]

I don't get it, why do people not like Manmohan Singh.. Personally i think he is a great statesman.

Dont bother its the dislike for Antonio Maino and Raul Vinci that is coming out.

 

[GentlemanObserver]

Dont bother its the dislike for Antonio Maino and Raul Vinci that is coming out.

Lol.. K Gotcha.

 

[Veeru]

@Paladin... don't bother about politics... looks like he is a BJP supporter

Don't talk if you have no info about that particular subject. In my whole family we have never voted for BJP ever not even a single person not a single vote for BJP/janta party for last 60 years.

We have always voted for Congress because of Gandhi/Nehry/Patel/Indiraji/Rajev

Now American puppet manmohan singh who is pro pakistani acting like a traitor and harming our defense, economy and foreign relations on the instruction of USA.

America can't be our true friend and is supporting pakistan in everyday by donations/aid and weapons + keeping a blind eye on anti India activities.

Soon we will be without friends because of traitor manmohan singh as we will loose friends like Russia, BRIC/BASIC, Non align group.

The world will see as a pet of USA and USA will use and throw us.

 

[justanobserver]

Well read this excellent article (old but relavent). MMS and co got carried away by Bush and were in for a rude shock when Obama came in

India reels over Obama's silence
By M K Bhadrakumar


Diplomatic predicaments can at times be almost laughable. Indian officials were scurrying around like headless chickens because 120 anxious hours had passed and United States president-elect Barack Obama had not yet put a phone call through to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh - as he has done to at least nine other heads of state.

The Indians could learn a thing or two from the Kremlin. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev found himself exactly in Manmohan's predicament when by November 8 his Kremlin telephone still had not rung. But 43-year-old Medvedev did a smart thing.

He put a call through to Chicago to the 47-year old president-elect. The Kremlin thereupon went ahead and publicized the



conversation in an upbeat account. A budding controversy was nipped before it could blossom.

Kashmir issue reviving
Young people move real fast. The embarrassment is acute in Delhi since 76-year-old Manmohan committed an incredible gaffe in the runup to the US elections in late September by telling the 65-year-old US President George W Bush that Indians "loved" him - ignoring how fast the American people's equation with their lameduck leader was deteriorating.

Delhi finds it appalling that Obama phoned Pakistani leader Asif Zardari on Saturday and the two leaders reportedly discussed the Kashmir issue. External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee promptly reacted, invoking the Simla Accord of 1972 as the cornerstone of India-Pakistan relations, which rules out third-party mediation over the disputed territory of Kashmir.

It is a long while since an Indian statesman mentioned the Simla Accord. It is a "back-off" message and it comes amid reports that in a move to inspire Islamabad to perform better in the "war on terror", the incoming US administration may coax India into a settlement of the Kashmir problem and that Obama proposes to appoint former US president Bill Clinton as special envoy to undertake a sustained mediatory mission between India and Pakistan.

Indians might have fondly overlooked Clinton's incurable flaws and warmed to him as president, but his anointment as Kashmir envoy will not go down well. Public opinion would see it as a failure of the government's foreign policy. And the ruling Congress party is gearing up for a string of tough provincial and federal elections.

However, Obama may also be unwittingly exposing some of the fallacies underlying the Manmohan government's foreign policy - China, the war in Afghanistan and nuclear non-proliferation.

Floundering dreams
Indian strategists blithely assume that Washington ascribes crucial importance to building up India as a counterweight to China. They estimate India stands to gain from the US's containment strategy towards China. But a containment strategy towards China may be the last thing on Obama's mind. China is a key player in any US effort to rebuild the global financial architecture, and Beijing is behaving like a "stakeholder".

The Indian obsession with "great-power" status looks out of place in the changed context. George W Bush administration officials constantly drilled into Indian ears the importance of Delhi taking on responsibilities for the management of the world order. They visualized India as a junior partner in the strategy to control the waterway between the Persian Gulf and the chokepoint of the Malacca Strait through which the bulk of China's oil imports is transported.

Similarly, the Bush administration prodded Delhi to seriously consider military involvement in Afghanistan. Against the backdrop of the US-India civilian nuclear deal, audacious Indian strategists began fancying Delhi and Washington would move towards a "serious conversation" as regards the "full range of issues relating to Pakistan's political and strategic future".

Obama's Afghan strategy
Obama threatens to shake up the daydreamers in Delhi. His top priority is to seek an exit strategy in Afghanistan. He will be wary of following in the tragic footsteps of president Lyndon Johnson who, like him, inherited a war (Vietnam), which ultimately consumed his presidency and destroyed his political life. Obama could as well have delivered LBJ's famous Great Society speech of May 1964 at the University of Michigan commencement. He is at a comparable point in the march of American history and politics.

Equally, Obama empathizes with Pakistan's plight. He would assess that the moral and political responsibility for destabilizing Pakistan primarily lies with Washington and that as long as the Afghan war continues, Pakistan will remain in the vortex of volatility, which will affect regional stability. He may not necessarily opt for Central Command chief General David Petraeus' strategy of "surge" first followed by negotiations with the Taliban, but his campaign rhetoric that he is determined to win the Afghan war must be seen in its entire context.

Washington accepts Pakistan has special interests in Afghanistan and the US needs to accommodate them. These include security guarantees against perceived Indian threats as well as regard for the Durand Line that separates Afghanistan and Pakistan. It shouldn't come as a surprise to Delhi if the US seeks a rollback of the scale of the Indian presence in Afghanistan.

Even-handed policy
Two, Obama will actively seek to improve India-Pakistan relations so that they become predictable. His inclination to bring in Clinton as special envoy must be seen from this perspective. He needs someone with persuasive skill to influence Delhi, while he focuses on Pakistan and the war. But Obama cannot be naive enough to conclude that his route to Afghan settlement lies through the treacherous minefields of the 60-year-old Kashmir dispute.

Nor is Clinton unaware that India will never accept any redrawing of its boundaries. And Indians are famous for hunkering down, as he learned in the late 1990s when they went nuclear. Clinton would know his task essentially would be to probe the Indian offer to make the borders separating the two parts of Kashmir "irrelevant" within the overall framework of a durable peace process with Pakistan. Therefore, the high probability is that despite his fondness for travel, good food and diplomacy, he may still be reluctant to take up the challenging assignment in South Asia.

Compared to the Cold War era when India withstood the hostile US stance on the Kashmir issue, it is in a far happier position today on the world arena. So, why are Indians going ballistic? The problem lies elsewhere. The Manmohan government frittered away a rare four-year spell of relative calm to provide responsive government in Jammu and Kashmir (J&K). A colossal failure of leadership in Delhi and massive political ineptitude locally in J&K incrementally sapped India's strong position.

The consequent alienation of Kashmiri people runs deep. The challenge facing Delhi is to hold free and fair elections to the provincial assembly in J&K due in December, and to facilitate the formation of a government which the international community will regard as democratically elected. Delhi's fear is that any talk of US mediation may embolden Kashmiri secessionists.

On balance, Obama can be expected to pursue an even-handed policy towards the two South Asian rivals India and Pakistan. But herein lies the rub. The expectation in Delhi is that the US ought to build up India as the pre-eminent power in the region. This is the real source of the angst among the Indian elite and strategists, even though the Obama administration will continue with the US policy to seek a strong relationship with India in the sphere of military and intelligence cooperation.

Nuclear deal may unravel
Meanwhile, a potentially debilitating discord is appearing on the horizon. Obama supported the nuclear deal with India, which was recently ratified by the US Congress. But now it transpires, following "leaks" from Washington, that as early as September 23, Obama had written to Manmohan that his administration would regard the deal with India as a "central element" of the US's nuclear weapons policy.

He put on record that his administration would press for the US's ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) "at the earliest practical day". Furthermore, he said his administration would "launch a major diplomatic initiative" to ensure that CTBT came into force. Obama added he would also pursue negotiations on a "verifiable, multilateral treaty" to end production of fissile material for nuclear weapons.

Both with regard to the CTBT as well as an immediate moratorium on the production of fissile material, he wrote, "I very much hope and expect India will cooperate closely with the United States in these multilateral efforts". Curiously, the Manmohan government kept the letter under wraps until it became public knowledge last week. It was apprehensive that the letter challenges the official contention that the deal accords recognition to India as a nuclear weapons state.

The letter touches a raw nerve. There is apprehension that Obama's thinking will be integrated into new US disarmament proposals that draw India into the global nuclear order through the CTBT and the fissile material production ban and impose on India a more stringent accounting of its nuclear material.

Delhi's priority is to use the deal to provide the context to access to sensitive US military technology within the overall framework of the "strategic partnership". Surely, there is a grey area here. Did the Bush administration negotiate the deal with transparency? Hard to say. Are Indians so dumb as to be led up the garden path and hustled into a deal full of ambiguities? Not really. Only Bush and Manmohan would know.

It appears India and the US have a growing need to retain Manmohan and Bush in their current jobs as lifetime heads of governments so that the strategic partnership can go from strength to strength.

Ambassador M K Bhadrakumar was a career diplomat in the Indian Foreign Service. His assignments included the Soviet Union, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Germany, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Kuwait and Turkey.

 

[Veeru]

Dont bother its the dislike for Antonio Maino and Raul Vinci that is coming out.

No that's not true in fact i like sonia otherwise congress would have been disintegrated, may be Raul Vinci will be better then MMS.

But we want best a really good leader and there is no candidate in sight in any party congress/bjp etc. etc.

 

[justanobserver]

The Afghan withdrawal and the G-2 were a smack in the face for MMS and co. Luckily things turned in our favour

China gave middle finger wrt G-2 and yanks are gonna stay in Afghanistan

 

[StingRoy]

@Veeru... got your point... sorry for jumping ahead in my judgement. But the words are a little harsh. I am tired of listening to words like puppets, stooges, servants, pets, traitors ... blah blah.
Lets see how the next elections shape up.... Even I want a change in the govt. ... its been too long.

 

[Veeru]

Its not about congress or BJP its all about India I will support anyone which is good for India no matter which party they belong.

 

[GentlemanObserver]

Don't talk if you have no info about that particular subject. In my whole family we have never voted for BJP ever not even a single person not a single vote for BJP/janta party for last 60 years.

We have always voted for Congress because of Gandhi/Nehry/Patel/Indiraji/Rajev

Now American puppet manmohan singh who is pro pakistani acting like a traitor and harming our defense, economy and foreign relations on the instruction of USA.

America can't be our true friend and is supporting pakistan in everyday by donations/aid and weapons + keeping a blind eye on anti India activities.

Soon we will be without friends because of traitor manmohan singh as we will loose friends like Russia, BRIC/BASIC, Non align group.

The world will see as a pet of USA and USA will use and throw us.

It's your internal matter but i just wanted to say the following:

Soon we will be without friends because of traitor manmohan singh as we will loose friends like Russia, BRIC/BASIC, Non align group.

Your an emerging market, your part of BRIC you can't be kicked out. No body can deny you, your own importance, except yourself. You have proved your worth on the world stage...

The world will see as a pet of USA and USA will use and throw us.

Not going to happen, the USA needs INDIA for it's GRAND plan in SA.. You seem to underestimate the importance of India.

America can't be our true friend and is supporting pakistan in everyday by donations/aid and weapons + keeping a blind eye on anti India activities.

Please lets keep it India specific.

In conclusion, you are now a BRIC nation, you are an emerging market with a powerful economy, stable political environment, dynamic population, good development index, strong international ties.

You are "underselling" your country with the way you are thinking Veeru. And i say this as a PAKISTANI

 

[Kinetic]

Nice offer by the Zambian President...tell me honestly guys do you think west and US would allow India to take that...ofcourse not. My two pennys.

I like how non of you got my point...

I am saying that powers that be can build hurdles and stumbling blocks. Perhaps comprehension is hard for few few on this forum but i didn't expect this from you.

There is no chance that the West or say USA will do or can do anything against these agreements with uranium rich countries like Azmbia, Mongolia, Namibia, Kazakhstan etc. And its totally different from China taking Gwadar or building nuke plant in Pakistan. If it was China mining in Pakistan you could say that.

Zambia offers uranium, oil, gas prospect for India
Zambia offers uranium, oil, gas prospect for India

Zambia invites India to extract uranium, oil, gas
Zambia invites India to extract uranium, oil, gas | 09 December 2010 | www.commodityonline.com

 

[AR]

It's your internal matter but i just wanted to say the following:



Your an emerging market, your part of BRIC you can't be kicked out. No body can deny you, your own importance, except yourself. You have proved your worth on the world stage...



Not going to happen, the USA needs INDIA for it's GRAND plan in SA.. You seem to underestimate the importance of India.


Please lets keep it India specific.

In conclusion, you are now a BRIC nation, you are an emerging market with a powerful economy, stable political environment, dynamic population, good development index, strong international ties.

You are "underselling" your country with the way you are thinking Veeru. And i say this as a PAKISTANI

it is rare case when a Pakistani praises India.... it really feels like our country had achieved something
all the other times we found only indian (& media) are self congratulating themselves..

thanks for make me feel proud....

hope your country will emerge in the upcoming decade

 

[KS]

No that's not true in fact i like sonia otherwise congress would have been disintegrated, may be Raul Vinci will be better then MMS.

But we want best a really good leader and there is no candidate in sight in any party congress/bjp etc. etc.

Chill dude --- Do you think I like them ?

And Rahul better than MMS...?? Not a friggin chance in the whole universe.

 

[great]

Buddy you are new here, not every one there is a troll understand. There are some senior members respected for their insightful comments. Paladin is one of them, he knows exactly what he is talking about. It is you who are unable to understand him.

What he wants to say is that basically the powers that are now can easily meddle in affairs of a country's internal matter in which the power , whoever it is, is getting involved and though it will be detrimental to the host country (it could be India or Pakistan or anybody) we will bow down. It is not about the clout thing always. The example he has given is also perfect, look at the Iran Pakistan and India gas pipeline, at first we were very interested in this. However why did we get back?? because of USA pressure. The pros would have always outweighed cons in that, however we had to step back.

Hope u understand this long post.

Although I have to admit that I was a bit rash in my comments. But I won't agree with your logic.

US is trying to persuade us not to deal with Iran but not pushing us. We still haven't cancelled it. if we do cancel it, we might be getting something else in return. Diplomacy is not one way deal. India is not dependent on US for us to obey on anything they say.

But even then, I still don't understand why would US have any problem with us acquiring uranium from Zambia. Its not like they don't want us acquire uranium from anywhere. Would you back down if they pressure you not to deal with any country. I don't think they have that much control on India. Obviously Iran is a sensitive issue for them and we being their strategic ally, need to be mindful of that. That doesn't mean they can stop us from dealing with every other country. He gave IPI case as an example which is entirely different. I was merely refuting that point. Hopefully you too got my point.

 

[mehboobkz]

To add....just see how we indians are lucky to be in such able hands !

RESUME OF INDIAN PRIME MINISTER !

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CURRICULUM VITAE

DR. MANMOHAN SINGH
PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA

ACADEMIC RECORD

1962 D. Phil., Nuffield College, University of Oxford.
Topic: India’s Export Trends and Prospects for Self-
Sustained Growth. [Published by Clarendon Press,
Oxford, 1964]

1957 Economic Tripos [First Class honours], University of
Cambridge

1954 M.A. Economics, Panjab University – First Class with
first position in the University

1952 B.A. Economics(Hons.), Panjab University – Second
Class with first position in the University

1950 Intermediate Panjab University – First Class with first
position in the University

1948 Matriculation, Panjab University – First class

PRIZES AND AWARDS

2000 Conferred Annasaheb Chirmule Award by the W.LG.
alias Annasaheb Chirmule Trust setup by United
Western Bank Limited, Satara, Maharashtra

1999 Received H.H. Kanchi Sri Paramacharya Award for
Excellence from Shri R. Venkataraman, former
President of India and Patron, The Centenarian Trust

1999 Fellow of the National Academy of Agricultural
Sciences,New Delhi.

1997 Conferred Lokmanya Tilak Award by the Tilak Smarak
Trust, Pune

1997 Received Justice K.S. Hegde Foundation Award for
the year 1996

1997 Awarded Nikkei Asia prize for Regional Growth by the
Nihon Keizai Shimbun Inc. (NIKKEI), publisher of
Japan’s leading business daily

1996 Honorary Professor, Delhi School of
Economics,University of Delhi, Delhi

1995 Jawaharlal Nehru Birth Centenary Award of the Indian
Science Congress Association for 1994-95

1994 Asiamoney Award, Finance Minister of the Year

1994 Elected Distinguished Fellow, London School of
Economics, Centre for Asia Economy, Politics and
Society

1994 Elected Honorary Fellow, Nuffield College, University of
Oxford, Oxford, U.K.

1994 Honorary Fellow, All India Management Association

1993 Euromoney Award, Finance Minister of the year

1993 Asiamoney Award, Finance Minister of the Year

1987 Padma Vibhushan Award by the President of India

1986 National Fellow, national Institute of Education,
N.C.E.R.T.

1985 Elected President, Indian economic Association

1982 Elected Honorary Fellow, st. John’s College, Cambridge,

1982 Elected Honorary Fellow, Indian Institute of bankers

1976 Honorary Professor, Jawaharlal Nehru University,
New Delhi

1957 Elected Wrenbury Scholar, University of Cambridge,
U.K.

1955 Awarded Wright’s Prize for distinguished
performance, & St. John’s college, Cambridge, U.K.

1956 Awarded Adam Smith Prize, University of Cambridge,
U.K.

1954 Uttar Chand Kapur Medal, Panjab university, for
standing first in M.A.(Economics), panjab University,
Chandigarh

1952 University Medal for standing First in B.A.
Hon.(Economics), panjab University, Chandigarh




Recipient of Honorary Degrees of D.Litt. from :

- Panjab University, Chandigarh
- Guru Nanak University, Amritsar
- Delhi University, delhi
- Sri Venkateswara University, Tirupathi
- University of Bologna, Italy
- University of Mysore, Mysore
- Chaudhary charan Singh Haryana Agricultural University, Hisar
(D.Sc)
- Kurukshetra University
- Thapar Institute of Engineering & Technology, patiala (D.Sc)
- Nagarjuna University, Nagarjunanagar
- Osmania University, Hyderabad
- University of Roorkee, Roorkee (Doctor of Social Sciences)
- Doctor of Laws by the University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
- Dr. Bhimrao Ambedkar University (formerly Agra University) -
Doctor Letters degree
- Indian School of Mines, Dhanbad (Deemed University) D.Sc.
(Honoris Causa)
- Pt. Ravishankar Shukla University, Raipur

WORK EXPERIENCE AND POSITIONS HELD

May 22, 2004 – till date: Prime Minister of India

March 21, 1998 – May 22,2004: Leader of Opposition, Rajya
Sabha (Council of States)
Parliament of India

June, 2001: Re-elected as member of Rajya
Sabha for a Term of six years

August 1, 1996 - Dec 4, 1997: Chairman, Parliamentary Standing
Committee on Commerce, Rajya
Sabha

June 21, 1991- May 15, 1996: Finance Minister of India

June, 1995: Re-elected Member of Rajya
Sabha for a term of six years

September, 1991: Elected Member of Rajya Sabha

March 1991-June 1991: Chairman, University Grants
Commission

Dec 1990 – March 1991: Advisor to Prime Minister of India
on Economic Affairs

August 1987 – Nov 1990: Secretary General and
Commissioner, South Commission

Jan 1985- July 1987: Dy. Chairman, Planning
Commission of India

Sept 1982 – Jan 1985: Governor, Reserve Bank of India

April 1980 – Sept 1982: Member-Secretary, Planning
Commission, India

Nov.1976 – April 1980: Secretary, Ministry of Finance
Dept. of Economic Affairs,
Government of India

Member [Finance], Atomic Energy
Commission, Govt. of India

Member[Finance], Space
Commission, Govt. of India

1972 – 1976: Chief Economic Adviser, Ministry
of Finance, India

1971 – 1972: Economic Adviser, Ministry of
Foreign Trade, India

1969 – 1971: Professor of International Trade,
Delhi School of Economics, Delhi
University, India

1966 – 1969: UNCTAD, United Nations
Secretariat, New York
Chief, Financing for Trade Section
1966 : Economic Affairs Officer

1957 – 1965 : Panjab University, Chandigarh
1963-65 : Professor of Economics
1959-63 : Reader in Economics
1957-59:Senior Lecturer in
economics


OTHER ASSIGNMENTS


Leader of the Indian delegation to the Commonwealth
Heads of Government Meeting, Cyprus (1993)

Leader of the Indian delegation to the Human Rights
World Conference, Vienna (1993)

Governor of India on the Board of Governors of the IMF
and the International Bank of Reconstruction &
Development (1991-95)

Appointed by Prime Minister of India as Member,
Economic Advisory Council to the Prime minister (1983-
84)

Chairman, India Committee of the Indo-japan ;Joint
Study Committee (1980-83)

- Leader, Indian Delegation to :

Indo-Soviet Monitoring Group Meeting (1982)

Indo-Soviet Joint Planning Group Meeting (1980-
82)

Aid India Consortium Meetings (1977-79)

- Member Indian Delegation to :

South-South Consultation, New Delhi (1982)

Cancun Summit on North-South Issues (1981)

Aid-India Consortium Meetings, Paris (1973-79)

Annual Meetings of IMF, IBRD & Commonwealth
Finance Ministers (1972-79)

Third Session of UNCTAD, Santiago (April-May
1972)

Meetings of UNCTAD Trade & Development
Board, Geneva (May 1971 – July 1972)

Ministerial Meeting of Group of 77, Lima
(Oct.1971)

- Deputy for India on IMF Committee of Twenty on
International Monetary Reform (1972 – 74)

- Associate, Meetings of IMF Interim Committee and
Joint Fund-Bank Development Committee (1976-80,
1982-85)

- Alternate Governor for India, Board of Governors of
IBRD (1976-80)

- Alternate Governor for India, Board of Governors of
the IMF (1982-85)

- Alternate Governor for India, Board of Governors,
Asian Development Bank, Manila (1976-80)

- Director, Reserve Bank of India (1976-80)

- Director, Industrial Development Bank of India (1976-
80)

- Participated in Commonwealth Prime Ministers
Meeting, Kingston (1975)

- Represented Secretary;-General UNCTAD at several
inter-governmental meetings including :

Second Session of UNCTAD, 1968

Committee on Invisibles & Financing Related to
Trade, Consultant to UNCTAD, ESCAP and
Commonwealth Secretariat

- Member, International Organizations :

Appointed as Member by the Secretary-General,
United Nations of a Group of Eminent Persons to
advise him on Financing for Development
(December, 2000)



PUBLICATIONS

(i) Author of book “India’s Export Trends and
Prospects for Self-Sustained Growth”
[Clarendon Press, Oxford University, 1964]

(ii) Have published a large number of articles in
economic journals


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S/o. Shri Gurmukh Singh

Born on 26th September, 1932

Married in 1958 to Smt. Gursharan Kaur

Have three daughters

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He is just a ha madam, ji madam stooge of Rajmata, one who has remote control to rule India. Just look at the traffic at 10 Janapath vs golf course and find out who runs the country.....