‘COL IMAM’ AS I KNEW

[Maarkhoor]

Did Hamid Mir Play Role In Khalid Khawaja’s Murder?

Pakistani TV anchor and senior journalist Hamid Mir seems to have bitten off more than he can chew with the release of his recorded conversation with a close aide of Hakimullah Mehsud.

The Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence are said to be investigating what role Hamid Mir has played in the assasination of Retd Squadron Leader Khalid Khawaja, who was kidnapped by a shadowy outfit calling itself the ‘Asian Tigers’, part of the Pakistani Taliban (TTP).

The shocking audiotape of a conversation between Hamid Mir – one of the country’s top TV anchors – and a man purportedly linked to the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, has revealed that negative information that Mir passed on to the Taliban could have led to the execution of Khalid Khawaja, the retired Air Force official allegedly killed by a group calling themselves the ‘Asian Tigers’.
The tape – which has Mir divulging dirt on Khawaja, ostensibly to someone who is going to cross examine him – was first posted by the Let Us Build Pakistan blog, and picked up by other online publications. It is still unclear who made the tape, with online speculation suggesting that it could be the militants themselves, or even intelligence agencies who released the recording.

Whatever the source may be, it is clear that one of the voices on the tape is Mir’s, a fact corroborated by his allusions to events such as his sacking from the daily Ausaf. In the tape, the person on the other end asks Mir for information on Khalid Khawaja. The content of the conversation suggests that this call was made before Khawaja’s execution earlier this month. Mir goes on to detail what he knows about Khawaja’s background, linking him to the CIA, an international network of Qadianis and an American named Mansur Ejaz, who, Mir claims, even offered to solve the Kashmir issue.

At one point, the voice on the other end claims to have abducted Khawaja. Here, Mir volunteers further information linking Khawaja to the Lal Masjid operation, saying that Khawaja and his wife were the ones responsible for the death of Ghazi Rasheed and the humiliating capture of Maulana Abdul Aziz and his family. Mir then urges the man to cross-examine Khawaja about his relationship with Mansur Ejaz, Qadianis and a CIA agent named William Casey.

Mir also mentions Javed Paracha – the Kohat-based PML-N lawmaker who offered to mediate Khawaja’s release. Towards the end of the tape, the voice on the other end says that he will relay the information (that Mir has given) to Hakeemullah Mehsud.

Below is the transcript (English Translation) of the entire conversation:

Hamid Mir: Many bombings are being carried out.

Unidentified man: Let’s see. There will be more of them. There are some in the pipeline. What do they (government) say about the operation in Orakzai? Will they stop it or not?

HM: No, they say it would not be stopped, rather they say they will also start an operation in North Waziristan and 40,000 troops will leave in a couple of days.



UM: In North Waziristan?

HM: Yes.

UM: Do you have any report on Khalid Khawaja etc.

HM: They say Khalid Khawaja Saab is in custody of one Azam Afridi in Darrakhel.

UM: Yes, yes Tariq Afridi (correcting HM).

HM: They are in Tariq Afridi’s custody.

UM: OK.

HM: Yes.

UM: So, are they men of the government or ISI?

HM: Who?

UM: These, Khalid Khawaja and Colonel Imam.

HM: Khalid Khawaja, according to my opinion, is not an ISI man, rather he is a CIA agent, an American CIA agent and he has links with the Taliban leadership.

UM: Yes, he met with Hakimullah and others when he came here last time.

HM: I personally know that Khalid Khawaja has links not only with CIA but he is also a front man of Mansoor Ijaz who belongs to a very big international network of Qadiyanis. Once he came to me along with Mansoor, who had a briefcase with him, and Khalid Saab told me that Mansoor is a key representative of the US government, so arrange his meeting with Syed Salahuddin, who is a mujahideen leader, and he along with him would resolve the Kashmir issue.

UM: All right.

HM: But I asked him what charm or magic lamp does he posses for the resolution of the Kashmir dispute. He said he had links with the Indian government and (Atal Bihari) Vajpayee Jee, which surprised me. I didn’t arrange the meeting, but I asked Mr Salahuddin who said Khalid Khawaja is sending messages that you should directly talk to India and the US on the issue and exclude Pakistan from it.

UM: All right, all right.

HM: After that, Mansoor Ijaz also asked me: Are you with us or not? I said, “I am not with you.” Then he conspired against me and got me sacked from the Daily Ausaf when I was its editor. So, I think Khalid Khawaja not only has links with the CIA but he is also an agent of the Qadiyanis, and I am very sad that he used to go to the Tribal Areas and meet leaders there.

UM: But now, I think, the Taliban have caught him and have demanded $10 million for the journalist.

HM: Do you know what part his (Khalid Khawaja’s) wife played in Lal Masjid?

UM: No, but it was something negative.

HM: It was that Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi Saab – may Allah bless him with a place in heavens. What he told me in his last days was, do you know that he did not completely agree with Maulana Aziz.

UM: Yes, yes.

HM: Mr Abdul Rashid Ghazi wanted to save the students inside the mosque and for that he showed flexibility and said, “I am ready to surrender on the condition that those who are with me will not be arrested and will be released.” But Khalid Khawaja’s wife was pressurised so much by Ume Hassaan that Maulana Abdul Aziz, without asking his brother, came out in a burqa, and Khalid Khawaja was involved in it (call disconnected).

UM: Assalam-o-Alaikum!

HM: Yes,

UM: The call got disconnected.

HM: Ok.

UM: So, what were you saying about his wife?

HM: Yes, I was telling you that his wife pressurised him so much that Ghazi Saab said, “She says we have to fight, just fight for martyrdom.” After that Mr Khalid Khawaja came out of the mosque and his wife also fled, Khalid Khawaja’s wife.

UM: Yes, we heard that she had fled after that.

HM: Yes, she ran away and then Maulana Abdul Aziz also came out in the burqa.

UM: I think, he insisted for that.

HM: Yes, he had done all this. After that Maulana Abdul Aziz was arrested and Mr Abdul Rashid Ghazi telephoned me and said, “Now, I don’t have any option. Now, my family and ulema have been defamed as my brother was arrested in a burqa and presented on Pakistan Television. This is a large stain which can only be removed with my blood.” So, he lived up to his words and sacrificed. So, Khalid Khawaja and his wife, anyone may know or not, they will have to answer before Allah Almighty.

UM: He, recently, came here and met my companions. He was saying, “You can work in Pakistan as we say, if you want to. I can arrange your ‘setting’ with an admiral in Mianwali. So, you should not burn US containers in Pakistan, you can rob them and sell them to a person recommended by us.” He was saying, “We would provide you everything for carrying out activities in Pakistan.”

HM: Do whatever you want to with the containers, burn them or rob them, I have nothing to do with it. But ask him what relationship he has with Mansoor Ijaz and William Casey? William Casey was the chief of CIA.

UM: Right, right.

HM: He (Khawaja) himself has confessed in front me that he had links with William Casey. Ok! Leave William, ask him about the Qadiyanis, because I personally believe that Qadiyanis are worse than infidels, what kind of links does he have with Qadiyanis? What relationship does he have with Mansoor Ijaz? Why does he use his money? Why does he go everywhere with him when he comes to Pakistan? Why does he bring him to the mujahideen?

UM: Yes, he has a son in al Qaeda.

HM: Yes, his son would also be a spy like him.

UM: Yes, I talked to the shaikhs about him. They said they were keeping him on the sidelines.

HM: His biggest betrayal to me was that there was a mujahid, Abdul Rehman Al Canady.

UM: Yes, there was one Canady.

HM: He was martyred in North Waziristan. He came to me with Canady’s wife and a daughter, saying Canady’s son, Karim, is at Rawalpindi’s CMH and is injured and the army had arrested him. He asked me to arrange a meeting between the injured and his mother. I said this is very difficult for me and I can’t do this because already they are all against me. But, he said all that you need to do is to arrange a meeting between a mother and her son. So, I arranged it with a lot of difficulties and sent the woman to Rawalpindi CMH, but when she reached there she took a camera out of her burqa and asked her son to record a message that he is innocent, has no links with anyone and has been kept here illegally. She was arrested there because a nurse saw her and seized the camera from her. But I was held responsible for all of it as they told me that I had sent this woman. It was revealed after her arrest that the woman had a Canadian passport and had visited Canada two months ago. After that I faced a lot of difficulties. The Canadian government released the woman and her daughter and then she went back to Canada. In Toronto, she held a press conference and admitted that she worked for the CIA. Now Khalid Khawaja has a long beard and his wife wears a full veil so people like us, who are involved in worldly affairs and have committed sins, believe that if we will help them, we might be forgotten for our sins. When these kinds of people betray us, we lose confidence on the religion itself.

UM: Absolutely, neither we are wrong nor is the army, but people like him have created the difficulties.

HM: However, if he is somewhere, ask him at least that you used the name of Abdul Rehman Canady, you worked with Mansoor Ijaz, you have worked William Casey. And there is one Javaid Ibrahim Piracha, who has a very big seminary in Kohat.

UM: Yes, yes.

HM: You all know the services of Piracha Saab. So, he fraudulently invited Piracha Saab in Islamabad and told him he wanted to arrange his meeting with a prominent personality. He took him to the US deputy foreign minister at Serena Hotel and said, “He is Mr Piracha and he can arrange your talks with the al Qaeda and Taliban.” Piracha Saab is a well-educated person. I observed that he was betrayed and came out of the room and escaped from there. Then he called me and said, “You were right about him (Khalid Khawaja).”

UM: Right, right. He went to him last time.

HM: Yes, Piracha Saab told me about that. He said, “He came to me and Col Imam was also here and told Col Imam that don’t go anywhere with this guy.” He (Piracha) said, “What can I do if he comes here and I can’t force him out of my house, but you don’t go anywhere with him.” Mr Piracha said Col Imam didn’t want to go with Khalid Khawaja, but he forced him to go with him.

UM: Right, maybe to use as human shield. But Shah Abdul Aziz, that MNA of Kirk, is supporting him a lot. He was meeting everyone here and asking for his release.

HM: He would have fooled Shah Abdul Aziz.

UM: Yes, he was asking people to release him and said you may keep the journalist, whose ransom will be paid to you by him.

HM: Ok! His release depends on them who have kept him, but convey them these three questions that what is your link with Mansoor Ijaz, whose father fled with the atomic secrets of Pakistan. Mansoor Ijaz’s father was an atomic scientist and he fled to the US with the atomic secrets of Pakistan. Once he (Ijaz) offered Benazir Bhutto a quid pro quo deal in 1995 that all the debts of the country will be forgiven, if she recognised Israel. That means he was also an agent of Israel.

UM: Yes, he used to ask my companions to work in Pakistan “as we say”. Actually, the killings of brigadiers in Rawalpindi might have been arranged by him, I think.

HM: It might be possible, but I have been watching this guy for the last 13 or 14 years and he is a suspected man.

UM: OK. Inshallah, I will meet Hakimullah in two or three days and talk to him about all this.

HM: All right

UM: Thank you so much.

HM: Assalam-o-Alaikum!

UM: Assalam-o-Alaikum!

Source: Did Hamid Mir Play Role In Khalid Khawaja’s Murder?

 

[!eon]

Col Imam And Col Khawaja was abducted together and i believe Hamid mir the ghaddar is behind those killings

Execution of Col was mandatory because he had too much personal influence among Afghan warlords and former mujaheddin commanders as well as among new comers i.e. Talibans.
Hamid Mir and Asian Tigers might have been used as tools, but plan was obviously made somewhere else among much higher foreign circles. Also, the last para of writing indicates towards this point.
British journalist contacted Squadron Leader Khalid khawaja, and khawja then asked Col for his help. British journalist came back alive, and still lives. Just in case if someone is interested in any kind of investigations.

His support to the TTP, which eventually cost him his life.

I have once heard him saying, "Pakistani taliban were created to defame the originals."
I think that view is one reason in his death but because of his extra influence inside Afghanistan, his elimination was necessary. Had that plan not worked, then in any other way.

 

[asad71]

He is wrongly credited for this, he join ISI quite late at the time when the fight was all most over Russian were secretly negotiating their withdrawal form Afghanistan with USA & Pakistan (indirectly) .... in fact Gen. Hamid is criticized for his role at the concluding stage of Afghan Jihad some term his tenure as a 'FAILURE' because of his over ambitious strategy which extended the Afghan regime more then its natural life & weaken the Afghan Mujahideen ....

Its the International & Indian Media who attributes the success of others to his name as per their requirement of having a living breathing figure form ISI to criticize .... (others till that time were not known, & the one Gen. Akhtar Abdur Rehman who was known to International Community was Died in plane crash with Zia.)

Late Brig Yusuf had led the Afghan Bureau in ISI during the crucial period. Late Gen Hamid Gul, in his retired life, had become an inspiration/ institution to struggling Muslims all over the world.

 

[Panther 57]

conversation of Hamid Mir with Unknown person indicates that HM has deep rooted connections with TTP and the way he has been describing things indicate that he has a role to play in all the havoc which has been created in Pakistan. Liking his activities and acknowledgments received from different countries it is beyond doubt that he works against Pakistan.

 

[Icarus]

Why not to eliminate TTP with the help of other groups having turf war with them?
Or we are suffering due to our policy blunders of Gen Musharraf

Group interests are fluid, alliances can change in a day. It was tried at one time and some groups have been co-opted with success. However, they are not sent back in to fight against the TTP, they are instead disarmed and resettled. We want them to give up militancy, not carry out militancy on our behalf against other militants. The Turkestan Bhettani group as well as Nazir Group are good examples of this co-opt strategy.

What is TTP's End-Game realistically speaking? I believe these people are intelligent enough to realize that they can't ever over throw Pakistani state. AFAIK they don't have separatist agenda but rather quasi religious one.

The TTP's ideological end game is to take over Islamabad and use Pakistan as a springboard for a global jihad.
Their more immediate goal is to retain control of the areas they have lost.
However, with the existing situation, they have revised even their ideology, they have moved from globalist Islam to pukhtun preservation and have changed their MO from attacking hard military targets to killing unarmed women and children to create shock value as they are on their last rope and are struggling to stay relevant.

 

[Hyperion]

I don't get it - I mean, I seriously don't. The guy was embodiment of Talibanese ideals. Why do we, as a nation, glorify people such as him? My take - we can never learn from our mistakes.

 

[Bratva]

I don't get it - I mean, I seriously don't. The guy was embodiment of Talibanese ideals. Why do we, as a nation, glorify people such as him? My take - we can never learn from our mistakes.

and what about the operatives who are managing haqqani group for past 10 years ?

 

[Spectre]

I don't get it - I mean, I seriously don't. The guy was embodiment of Talibanese ideals. Why do we, as a nation, glorify people such as him? My take - we can never learn from our mistakes.

I believe the saying is apt here - Look too deep into abyss and abyss looks back into you.

I believe the good colonel was a patriot who involved himself with Taliban/Mujaheedins for Pakistan's interest initially however the long familiarity and the bonds formed fighting the soviet's affected his ability to distinguish between Taliban's interest and Pakistan's interest and how they no longer overlap.

 

[Hyperion]

Mate, tell me something - what good has it all done us in the long run? In the end, all of them come back to bite the hand that fed these snakes?

In my personal opinion, most of our "long term" strategic goals have never been vetted extensively, the cons most of the time, outweigh the pros.

And by the way, don't you worry about the Haqqani chapter as well, in due time that will haunt us as well.

and what about the operatives who are managing haqqani group for past 10 years ?

Very apt usage of the quote!

I believe the saying is apt here - Look too deep into abyss and abyss looks back into you.

 

[Counterpunch]

Mate, tell me something - what good has it all done us in the long run? In the end, all of them come back to bite the hand that fed these snakes?

In my personal opinion, most of our "long term" strategic goals have never been vetted extensively, the cons most of the time, outweigh the pros.

And by the way, don't you worry about the Haqqani chapter as well, in due time that will haunt us as well.



Very apt usage of the quote!

The thing is we only know what has happened and that we do not very much like. We do not know what has been averted because of the efforts of those men in the field

 

[Neutron]

I don't get it - I mean, I seriously don't. The guy was embodiment of Talibanese ideals. Why do we, as a nation, glorify people such as him? My take - we can never learn from our mistakes.

Can you glorify sacrifices of US and Nato forces in Afghanistan?
They sacrified thier lives for democracy and public rights and attacked sovereign country like occupation forces.

Group interests are fluid, alliances can change in a day. It was tried at one time and some groups have been co-opted with success. However, they are not sent back in to fight against the TTP, they are instead disarmed and resettled. We want them to give up militancy, not carry out militancy on our behalf against other militants. The Turkestan Bhettani group as well as Nazir Group are good examples of this co-opt strategy.



The TTP's ideological end game is to take over Islamabad and use Pakistan as a springboard for a global jihad.
Their more immediate goal is to retain control of the areas they have lost.
However, with the existing situation, they have revised even their ideology, they have moved from globalist Islam to pukhtun preservation and have changed their MO from attacking hard military targets to killing unarmed women and children to create shock value as they are on their last rope and are struggling to stay relevant.

Group interests are fluid, alliances can change in a day. It was tried at one time and some groups have been co-opted with success. However, they are not sent back in to fight against the TTP, they are instead disarmed and resettled. We want them to give up militancy, not carry out militancy on our behalf against other militants. The Turkestan Bhettani group as well as Nazir Group are good examples of this co-opt strategy.



The TTP's ideological end game is to take over Islamabad and use Pakistan as a springboard for a global jihad.
Their more immediate goal is to retain control of the areas they have lost.
However, with the existing situation, they have revised even their ideology, they have moved from globalist Islam to pukhtun preservation and have changed their MO from attacking hard military targets to killing unarmed women and children to create shock value as they are on their last rope and are struggling to stay relevant.

why yo8u want Afghan taliban to give up militancy as people are burning Pakistan flag in kabul. NDS chief declared TTP dogs as martyred.
They with the help of RAW are playing deadly game in Pakistan. we need to hang Gen Musharraf and likes for supporting the zionist agenda and giving them reasons to create TTP. Don't you think they attacked Afghanistan a sovereign country as Soviet did few decades back.

 

[Icarus]

why yo8u want Afghan taliban to give up militancy as people are burning Pakistan flag in kabul. NDS chief declared TTP dogs as martyred.
They with the help of RAW are playing deadly game in Pakistan. we need to hang Gen Musharraf and likes for supporting the zionist agenda and giving them reasons to create TTP. Don't you think they attacked Afghanistan a sovereign country as Soviet did few decades back.

The Afghan people burn our flags, the Afghan Taliban support those who burn our people alive. Its a question of priorities.
Musharraf did not attack Afghanistan, we merely retracted our support of the Taliban regime after two months of efforts to bring them to the negotiating table with the Americans, its was the Taliban's own fancy to enter a war and they chose to fight.

 

[Neutron]

The Afghan people burn our flags, the Afghan Taliban support those who burn our people alive. Its a question of priorities.
Musharraf did not attack Afghanistan, we merely retracted our support of the Taliban regime after two months of efforts to bring them to the negotiating table with the Americans, its was the Taliban's own fancy to enter a war and they chose to fight.

Afghan government and NDS is also supporting those killed our kids in APS Peshawar.
Afghanistan government and Afghan Taliban both are now anti Pakistan and friends of anti Pakistan elements.
What is our take in this conflict?

 

[haviZsultan]

If this speech is available then why is Hamid Mir not arrested. Or is the evidence cooked up. Fake videos and fake voice samples can be made. Something I know very well. I am not saying that is the case here but things clearly need to be investigated.

 

[Icarus]

Afghan government and NDS is also supporting those killed our kids in APS Peshawar.
Afghanistan government and Afghan Taliban both are now anti Pakistan and friends of anti Pakistan elements.
What is our take in this conflict?

We want to insulate ourselves from the conflict in Afghanistan and at the same time dismantle terrorist cells operating in cities/regions. If they don't have a domestic network and support structures, cross overs from Afghanistan will not be able to find weapons/shelter/targets. The crossers are expendables, the local cells are high value targets.