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Clinton to Taliban: Dump al-Qaida or 'Face Consequences'

I agree with everyone that it's over. This is just like how Vietnam ended. They are setting up the ground work for a dignified retreat. Once the Americans pull out, the Karzai government won't last one year. This war was for nothing, just like Vietnam.

Do you think that this, combined with a recession, will end the US as a nation-state the way it ended the Soviet Union?

Both attacked Afghanistan.
Both withdrew after about 10 years.
Both withdew during a recession.
Internal unrest was important in both.
US people mistrust government more and more, same way in USSR.
Both are militarily overstretched, heavily indebted, dependent on foreign imports.
 
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Do you think that this, combined with a recession, will end the US as a nation-state the way it ended the Soviet Union?

Both attacked Afghanistan.
Both withdrew after about 10 years.
Both withdew during a recession.
Internal unrest was important in both.
US people mistrust government more and more, same way in USSR.
Both are militarily overstretched, heavily indebted, dependent on foreign imports.

No, not a chance. The US is still too strong. All the Mideast-adventures the past ten years has only meant suffering for the middle class and poor people in the US. The rich people are doing better than ever in the US (like rich people everywhere). US foreign policy is shaped greatly by Israeli national security. I would expect the US to war with Islam for the next 20 to 30 more years. This will gradually exhaust the US treausury until it's completely bankrupt and then it will turn inward and become an isolationist country again. This will take 30 more years of non-stop war with Islam because the US is really that rich and Israel is that powerful in the US.
 
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the history teaches us, without support of the local population, even as powerful as the USA, can not defeat a country like Afghanistan or Vietnam.
unjust war will only destroy their own economy, and get nothing.
a stupid and ugly war. thank God, we have not join it.
 
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Clinton to Taliban: Dump al-Qaida or 'Face Consequences'

Thought that's the whole reason they invaded Afghanistan in the first place anyway!! din't make any difference then, not going to make any now! I think US should stop trash talking & about time they do something about it!
 
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What miss Clinton is smoking.Its usa which is n hurry to run away from afghanistan.taliban will love to wait till judgement day.Time is on talban side.
 
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how do you distinguish between al qaeda and taliban?

how do you recognise al qaeda period?
by looking at people's forehead. if anyone has a "T" on his or hers, then that is a Taliban; if get an "A" then that is al qaeda :yahoo:
the problem is, U.S. (CIA) used to help Taliban and al qaeda to fight against Soviet Union to the S.U. withdrawal in 1989. then for what ever reason, U.S. bombed the hell out of camps in Afghanistan in 2000 and 2001 to lead to retaliate of Sept 1, 2001 by al qaeda and Taliban. ( 19 of terrorists, directly responsible for 9/11, 2 are Afghans and 17 are Saudis)
too much bloods already drawn, too many problems already developed; it's not likely that they can trust each other
 
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I Just would like to see, how history would judge USA with the Iraq and Afghan war?

Would it be treated the same as the VietNam War? would it be treated like the Korean War? Or would the War be the foundation to something big?
I mean lets be honest the Battlefield has moved from Afghan to Iraq to Pakistan now Yeman and Somalia? And the Taliban can never be defeated history has taught us this people like them don't lose. One thing is for sure if Pakistan wasn't supporting USA the war would have been so different right now.
 
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Don't underestimate America. The world is yet to see the decisive American military action.

These taliban who thump their chest with this supposed victory have no idea how Uncle Sam can whoop their a$$e$ with thousands of thousand tons bombs.

These talibs have survived just because they are mixed with innocent civilians. The day Uncle Sam runs out of patience, their luck will run out.

You sound like one of Bushes advisers billions of dollars and 1000s of lives later its still a no win but unfortunately people like you still do not get it.
 
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