Clerics attack Ahmadi house, torture family in Punjab

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Clerics attack Ahmadi house, torture family in Punjab – The Express Tribune

Clerics attack Ahmadi house, torture family in Punjab
Head of family shifte*d to hospit*al, in critic*al condit*ion.
By Rana Tanveer
Published: March 26, 2013

Mob reportedly attacked an Ahmadi man's house over his refusal to convert.

KASUR: Local clerics attacked a house belonging to an Ahmadi family in the Kasur district of Punjab on Tuesday and subjected the family members to violence allegedly over their religious belief, The Express Tribune has learnt.

A mob led by a local cleric chanted slogans against Ahmadi families, their religious beliefs and their community before breaking into Mansoor’s* house in the Shamsabad area.

The five members of Mansoor’s family tried to take refuge in a room but the mob broke into the room as well.

Police personnel were reportedly present at the spot but did not take any action against the mob.

Mansoor was severely tortured after which he lost consciousness, while his wife and his 70-year-old uncle were also beaten.

Mansoor was shifted to a hospital where authorities claimed that he is in critical condition.

Sheikh Yousaf, Head of the Ahmadi community in Kasur, told The Express Tribune that he had repeatedly asked the DPO Kasur to establish a police check post in the area as they had been receiving threats since six months. He said that the DPO had agreed to his demands but the local MNA created hurdles in establishment of the check post.

He claimed that the police had deliberately left the Ahmadi family at the mercy of the mob, and the clerics who attacked that threatened the family to convert to their religion or face consequences.

The house was attacked when Mansoor refused to convert, Yousaf added.

*Name has been changed to protect identity

 

[somebozo]

Food for thought..why are we becoming such barbarians! Clearly there is a fault somewhere!! One cannot expect one of the most backward places on earth to come up with a religion of peace and tolerance...to sooner we realize this fault lines the better!


Muhammad's grandfather Abd al-Muttalib almost slaughtered Muhammad's father, Abdullah, at the Kaaba, to satisfy their God, Hubal. From Ibn Hisham: An arrow showed that it was 'Abdullah to be sacrificed. 'Abdul-Muttalib then took the boy to Al-Ka'bah with a razor to slaughter the boy. Quraish, his uncles from Makhzum tribe and his brother Abu Talib, however, tried to dissuade him. They suggested that he summon a she-diviner. She ordered that the divination arrows should be drawn with respect to 'Abdullah as well as ten camels. … the number of the camels (finally) amounted to one hundred. … They were all slaughtered to the satisfaction of Hubal. Ibn Hisham 1:151-155

The worship of stones was commonplace in seventh century Arabia. If a particular stone looked sufficiently appealing it would replace the previously worshipped stone. From Sahih Bukhari we have an account from Abu Raja Al-Utaridi who described the process circumambulating (tawaf) around stones that were worshipped.

Sahih Bukhari 59:661 "We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it...".

 

[Cherokee]

First it was Shias , Then Christians , Then Ahmadis , i guess the next one will be hindu and the cycle will repeat itself .

Rinse and Repeat , Rinse and Repeat till no dirt( in this particular context minorities ) is left in the land of the pure .

 

[pak-marine]

First it was Shias , Then Christians , Then Ahmadis , i guess the next one will be hindu and the cycle will repeat itself .

Hindus are already done with , next in line are barelvis and other muslim sects ... there are 64 more to go. Purification process doesnt stop here .. more to go

 

[Cherokee]

Hindus are already done with , next in line are barelvis and other muslim sects ... there are 64 more to go. Purification process doesnt stop here .. more to go

i hope someone like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk gets on helm of affairs in Pakistan or this madness will never stop .

 

[474474]

people will continue saying "this happened because we dont listen to the good scholars enough"

 

[Contrarian]

Food for thought..why are we becoming such barbarians! Clearly there is a fault somewhere!! One cannot expect one of the most backward places on earth to come up with a religion of peace and tolerance...to sooner we realize this fault lines the better!


Muhammad's grandfather Abd al-Muttalib almost slaughtered Muhammad's father, Abdullah, at the Kaaba, to satisfy their God, Hubal. From Ibn Hisham: An arrow showed that it was 'Abdullah to be sacrificed. 'Abdul-Muttalib then took the boy to Al-Ka'bah with a razor to slaughter the boy. Quraish, his uncles from Makhzum tribe and his brother Abu Talib, however, tried to dissuade him. They suggested that he summon a she-diviner. She ordered that the divination arrows should be drawn with respect to 'Abdullah as well as ten camels. … the number of the camels (finally) amounted to one hundred. … They were all slaughtered to the satisfaction of Hubal. Ibn Hisham 1:151-155

The worship of stones was commonplace in seventh century Arabia. If a particular stone looked sufficiently appealing it would replace the previously worshipped stone. From Sahih Bukhari we have an account from Abu Raja Al-Utaridi who described the process circumambulating (tawaf) around stones that were worshipped.

Sahih Bukhari 59:661 "We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it...".

Somebozo you have already been called a Jew and an Ahmadi by distinguished people of this forum.

I would recommend that you stop writing else i think Hindu tag is coming up next

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On topic: It does not matter whether you worship a stone or a human or the trees.

What matters is that you still have humanity and a common sense of right and wrong.

 

[FarazUSA]

Food for thought..why are we becoming such barbarians! Clearly there is a fault somewhere!! One cannot expect one of the most backward places on earth to come up with a religion of peace and tolerance...to sooner we realize this fault lines the better!


Muhammad's grandfather Abd al-Muttalib almost slaughtered Muhammad's father, Abdullah, at the Kaaba, to satisfy their God, Hubal. From Ibn Hisham: An arrow showed that it was 'Abdullah to be sacrificed. 'Abdul-Muttalib then took the boy to Al-Ka'bah with a razor to slaughter the boy. Quraish, his uncles from Makhzum tribe and his brother Abu Talib, however, tried to dissuade him. They suggested that he summon a she-diviner. She ordered that the divination arrows should be drawn with respect to 'Abdullah as well as ten camels. … the number of the camels (finally) amounted to one hundred. … They were all slaughtered to the satisfaction of Hubal. Ibn Hisham 1:151-155

The worship of stones was commonplace in seventh century Arabia. If a particular stone looked sufficiently appealing it would replace the previously worshipped stone. From Sahih Bukhari we have an account from Abu Raja Al-Utaridi who described the process circumambulating (tawaf) around stones that were worshipped.

Sahih Bukhari 59:661 "We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it...".

Do Hindu's worship idols in this way?

 

[pak-marine]

i hope someone like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk gets on helm of affairs in Pakistan or this madness will never stop .

If it happens it will be very very bloody

 

[somebozo]

purification continues .....

people will continue saying "this happened because we dont listen to the good scholars enough"

Scholars like these

Salafi and Secular Intellectuals Exchange Insults and Nearly Come to Blows on Egyptian TV - YouTube

 

[Contrarian]

First it was Shias , Then Christians , Then Ahmadis , i guess the next one will be hindu and the cycle will repeat itself .

Rinse and Repeat , Rinse and Repeat till no dirt( in this particular context minorities ) is left in the land of the pure .

Nope. You have the order wrong.

First it was the Hindus who started to be persecuted. After all they were the first people to be hated by all Pakistani's, as Pakistani's had separated from the 'Hindus'.

Then started the persecution of Ahmadis. Because afterall they are imposters.
Then came the Christians.

It is finally the Shias. Shias are more in number as well as closest of the above mentioned to the acceptable/mainstream Islam that most of Pakistan is. So it took time to build up the hate base to go after the Shias. But it has finally started as well.

Do Hindu's worship idols in this way?

No..........

 

[Redbull]

people will continue saying "this happened because we dont listen to the good scholars enough"

This and every problem in Pakistan happened because:
1. Beards weren't long enough.
2. Trousers were not above the ankles.
3. Women didn't wear Burka.

 

[FarazUSA]

Scholars like these

Salafi and Secular Intellectuals Exchange Insults and Nearly Come to Blows on Egyptian TV - YouTube

Is this some kind of reality show for Islamists?

 

[Not Sure]

Is this some kind of reality show for Islamists?

The confidence displayed by the secular debater shows that the extremists there are still a minority, and are not so popular.

 

[haviZsultan]

This is not Pakistani tolerance at its best.... Ahmedis truly have it really tough in their own land. The mullahs simply do not want them and keep not only wishing them at the bottom of the Indian ocean but also do everything to throw them there. If we look at the wishes of the beghairat mullah and compare it to the will of the Quaid E Azam we will find that Quaid E Azam actually called an Ahmedi known as Zafarullah Khan his son.

So the mullah's Pakistan and Quaid E Azam's Pakistan are far far different. We must choose which Pakistan we actually want in the first place.

The confidence displayed by the secular debater shows that the extremists there are still a minority, and are not so popular.

The secularists are a minority as well...