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12:00 AM, January 19, 2019 / LAST MODIFIED: 12:22 AM, January 19, 2019
Clashes in Rakhine State: Myanmar army kills 13 rebels
UN rights envoy voices alarm urges restraint on all sides
Reuters, Naypyitaw

Myanmar's army has killed 13 rebel fighters in the western Rakhine State, a military spokesman said yesterday, as government troops battle to contain a new insurgency in the troubled region.

Fighting between security forces and the Arakan Army, an ethnic armed group seeking greater autonomy for Rakhine, has forced some 5,000 civilians to flee their homes since early December, according to the United Nations.

The violence has brought fresh turmoil to the region, the site of a massive crackdown on the Rohingya Muslim minority in 2017, and represents another setback for the Buddhist-majority country's embattled peace process.

"Between January 5 and 16, 2019, there were eight clashes and five landmine explosions," said Major General Tun Tun Nyi, speaking at a rare press conference in the capital, Naypyitaw.

"Thirteen enemy bodies and three weapons were seized, and some soldiers died and were injured on our side," he said.

He declined to elaborate on the number of government troops killed, saying it was "not necessary" to give the figures.


The Arakan Army could not be immediately reached for comment, but a spokesman outside Myanmar previously told Reuters five bodies seized by the military did not belong to their fighters.

The recent surge of violence began after insurgents killed 13 police and wounded nine in attacks on four police posts on January 4, as Myanmar celebrated Independence Day, state media reported.

Yanghee Lee, UN special rapporteur for human rights in Myanmar, voiced alarm at the "escalating violence" in Rakhine and urged both sides to show restraint and protect civilians.

She condemned the January 4 attack by the Arakan Army and the Myanmar military's "disproportionate response", citing reports that heavy weapons, artillery, and helicopters had been used in civilian areas, leading to civilian casualties.

"I am also seriously concerned about the dangerous rhetoric being used by the government. The ethnic Rakhine population must not be demonized and targeted by the military on suspicion of association with the AA," Lee said in a statement.

There was no immediate response from the Myanmar authorities to her remarks.

Myanmar's civilian administration last week called on the military to "crush" the rebels, according to a government spokesman.

The military said yesterday Aung San Suu Kyi, who runs the country as state counsellor, personally ordered the crackdown, stating that the Arakan Army, which recruits from among the mainly Buddhist Rakhine ethnic group, should face the same treatment as Rohingya insurgents.

The military onslaught against the Rohingya in 2017, which the UN and Western nations have called ethnic cleansing, was preceded by attacks on security forces by fighters calling themselves the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army. The government denies the charge of ethnic cleansing.

"During negotiations at the president's house on January 9, state counsellor Daw Aung San Suu Kyi said AA were terrorists and instructed to crack down effectively," Tun Tun Nyi said.

"If not, others would point out that ARSA was cracked down on because it's from a different religion and AA was not because it is an ethnic group," he said.

A government spokesman did not answer calls seeking comment.

The conflict is the latest crisis facing Nobel laureate Suu Kyi's administration, which swept to power in 2015 promising to bring an end to the country's myriad civil wars.

The United Nations has called for "rapid and unimpeded" aid access to the conflict zone, after the state government last week banned non-governmental organisations and the UN from five townships affected by the fighting.

@Aung Zaya, @Nilgiri
 
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Is the number coincidence as rebel killed 13 soldiers earlier too.
Looks like killing 13 rebels in return was the objective of this operation.
@Aung Zaya @tarpitz
 
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It would be a great success for Arakan army if it keep the ratio at 1:1.
Below is the citation from the news. It says govt troops were also killed. I think, since this number may be higher, therefore, the military spokesman declined to say any figure. Who knows, maybe 50 shoeless ragtag govt troops have been killed by the Arakan Army. By the way, note one point. The statement says 13 AA were killed but ONLY 3 weapons recovered. Can we trust this? Why not at least 13 weapons?

"Thirteen enemy bodies and three weapons were seized, and some soldiers died and were injured on our side," he said.

He declined to elaborate on the number of government troops killed, saying it was "not necessary" to give the figures.

@Aung Zaya, @Nilgiri, the unpaid spokesman for Burma
 
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Below is the citation from the news. It says govt troops were also killed. I think, since this number may be higher, therefore, the military spokesman declined to say any figure. Who knows, maybe 50 shoeless ragtag govt troops have been killed by the Arakan Army. By the way, note one point. The statement says 13 AA were killed but ONLY 3 weapons recovered. Can we trust this? Why not at least 13 weapons?

"Thirteen enemy bodies and three weapons were seized, and some soldiers died and were injured on our side," he said.

He declined to elaborate on the number of government troops killed, saying it was "not necessary" to give the figures.

@Aung Zaya, @Nilgiri, the unpaid spokesman for Burma
lol Mostly , rebel has to carry the bodies of their people and weapons as much as possible. There are various reasons to take this tradition since many decade ago.
Firstly , they dont want to let army their important intel like their strength, their weapon source and the way they carry them. these intels help army a lot in cutting their sources.
secondly , they recruit their fellow people by showing their victories. not bodies. if people know , they lost too many. who will join their organization. no.

Moreover, their stratgy is mostly hit and run from distance so they have enough time to carry out these steps. Mostly they use the blanket to carry the bodies and buried them when they reach safe place. In this case , seem they dont have enough time to carry all of their bodies as the combat was too close. so they left some bodies ,instead they took weapons which is more lighter and valuable for them.

likewise , Army dont elaborate the loss of their side before the end of the war. After all, they will do.
 
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Below is what wiki reports:

The Arakan Army has stated that it advocates for:
  • self-determination for the multi-ethnic Arakanese population
  • the safeguarding and promotion of the national identity and cultural heritage of the Arakan people
  • the "national dignity" and best interests of the Arakan people
In an interview with The Irrawaddy, Arakan Army commander Twan Mrat Naing stated that the political objective of the group is to "obtain confederate status for Rakhine State" and that "we prefer a confederation of states like Wa State, which has a larger share of power in line with the constitution".

@Aung Zaya, how long your military can carry on fighting the AA when it is a 7,000 strong guerrilla group. It would be much wiser for the Bamar military to move beyond the Yommu mountain range before more of your troops are killed.
 
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Below is what wiki reports:

The Arakan Army has stated that it advocates for:
  • self-determination for the multi-ethnic Arakanese population
  • the safeguarding and promotion of the national identity and cultural heritage of the Arakan people
  • the "national dignity" and best interests of the Arakan people
In an interview with The Irrawaddy, Arakan Army commander Twan Mrat Naing stated that the political objective of the group is to "obtain confederate status for Rakhine State" and that "we prefer a confederation of states like Wa State, which has a larger share of power in line with the constitution".

@Aung Zaya, how long your military can carry on fighting the AA when it is a 7,000 strong guerrilla group. It would be much wiser for the Bamar military to move beyond the Yommu mountain range before more of your troops are killed.
lol we already fought and won more than 10k communists in Shan mountains with so much weaker than current strength of Army and at that time , we have only a few trainer planes and no tanks. Check the current strength of Myanmar army. Unlike in Shan , Navy can also take part in operations. The Fights now moved near the border with BD from northern side and their forces have been surrounded. so sad your wish will not fulfill.
 
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lol we already fought and won more than 10k communists in Shan mountains with so much weaker than current strength of Army and at that time , we have only a few trainer planes and no tanks. Check the current strength of Myanmar army. Unlike in Shan , Navy can also take part in operations. The Fights now moved near the border with BD from northern side and their forces have been surrounded. so sad your wish will not fulfill.
Your army will not fight them. They will keep trying divide the comnunity and sit back and act like savior for Rakhine community. AA knows the track so does ARSA. So they never attack other comnunity civilians. Besides AA acknowledge Rohingy a partpof their future state.
 
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Arakan Army looks pretty well-trained and better built than Tatmadaw troops.


lol we already fought and won more than 10k communists in Shan mountains with so much weaker than current strength of Army and at that time , we have only a few trainer planes and no tanks. Check the current strength of Myanmar army. Unlike in Shan , Navy can also take part in operations. The Fights now moved near the border with BD from northern side and their forces have been surrounded. so sad your wish will not fulfill.

Your ceasefire with the Northern Alliance will come to an end in April. Beginning an operation in Rakhine means opening another front in your civil war. Besides, the Rakhine people would clearly turn against Tatmadaw if they start a military campaign here.
 
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Your army will not fight them. They will keep trying divide the comnunity and sit back and act like savior for Rakhine community. AA knows the track so does ARSA. So they never attack other comnunity civilians. Besides AA acknowledge Rohingy a partpof their future state.
AA and rakhine people themselves dont accept so called rohingya. One mian reason of founding AA is to protect their civilians from so callex Rohingya as they think Myanmar gov is too weak to protect them. so dont worry. their current policy is enemy of the enemy is friend. during their fights , they wont touch so called rohingya. but the fight is over , the next target would be ARSA and its people.

Arakan Army looks pretty well-trained and better built than Tatmadaw troops.




Your ceasefire with the Northern Alliance will come to an end in April. Beginning an operation in Rakhine means opening another front in your civil war. Besides, the Rakhine people would clearly turn against Tatmadaw if they start a military campaign here.
the meaning of cease fire to negotiate on the table. negotiation is already kicked off. and it will get possible answer from that. it wont fight again.
 
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Why is this BS news in the BD section...who gives a s*it..
 
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AA and rakhine people themselves dont accept so called rohingya. One mian reason of founding AA is to protect their civilians from so callex Rohingya as they think Myanmar gov is too weak to protect them. so dont worry. their current policy is enemy of the enemy is friend. during their fights , they wont touch so called rohingya. but the fight is over , the next target would be ARSA and its people.
You are just ignorant and dont know nothing about AA. They always need Bengalis to watch their back to succeed against Bamar. In fight or in peace. There was a Mrak-U kingdom only because there was a backing from Bengal.
PS: Give me reference where Arakan Army made statement against Rohingya since 2009
 
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the meaning of cease fire to negotiate on the table. negotiation is already kicked off. and it will get possible answer from that. it wont fight again.

Lol, Arakan Army is one of the main parties of Northern Alliance and they have a pretty strong alliance with KIA and MNDAA, why would they agree to a ceasefire if Tatmadaw attacks AA in Rakhine?

The best way forward for Tatmadaw is to withdraw their troops and accept the presence of AA in Rakhine. Include Rakhine in the ceasefire agreement, allow AA to have bases in the four townships and let them handle the law & order and the security of Rakhine.
 
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