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What happened to ceasefire? And what if talks fail? Will US push forth to arm Ukraine? Looks like bad situation forming in Europe. If any all out war breaks out, please notify me prior by weeks so I can pack and leave. :pop:

Full ceasefire is going to be implemented on 16 Feb according to the agreements.

British Saxon AT-105 have ready reached Ukraine.
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http://tass.ru/en/world/777615

February 14, 0:09 UTC+3
MOSCOW, February 13 /TASS/. Two civilians died and five were wounded in the shelling of a residential quarter in the Ukrainian town of Artyomovsk, the press service of Ukraine’s Interior Ministry in the Donetsk region said on Friday.

The casualties include a seven-year-old boy. Another three children were wounded, the ministry said.
 
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At least 11 Ukrainian servicemen KIA and 40 more WIA yesterday.
 
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Russia’s Putin wins in Ukraine conflict

The 16-hour marathon talks through last night and this morning in Minsk regarding conflict resolution in Ukraine by the leaders of the countries involved in the so-called ‘Normandy format’ – Germany, France, Russia and Ukraine – ended in an agreement. The 13 main points of the new agreement have carried forward the twelve-point Minsk accord of last September. But there is ‘additionality’ too insofar as timeline has been given for compliance by the warring sides and other protagonists.

The terms of the latest agreement confirms that Russia negotiated from a strong position — contrary to what the blistering western propaganda all along wanted us to believe. The ‘additionality’ in regard of the future of the eastern regions to be decided by the end of the year doubtless is a major gain for Russia, as the induction of Ukraine into the North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] is virtually ruled out if the constitutional reform goes through. This has been the core Russian demand.

However, this is also going to be the biggest sticking point, since the diehard nationalist lobby in Kiev, which is strongly represented in the current set-up, will deeply resent making any concessions as regards devolution of powers to the eastern regions. President Petro Poroshenko will find himself between the rock and a hard place on this issue, as he is already under fire from the nationalist camp ruling the roost in Kiev. Again, if Washington wants to derail the entire peace process, it won’t have to look far.

Unsurprisingly, therefore, Russia has made the sealing of Ukraine’s border with Russia conditional on the constitutional reform coming through. Which is to say, when the chips are down, Moscow has ensured that it’s ‘everything, or, nothing.’

Secondly, the ceasefire will come into force only on Sunday and between now and then, it is entirely conceivable that the warring parties will make attempts to gain tactical gains on the ground. Debaltseve, in particular, poses a problem, because Kiev does not even acknowledge that several thousands of its troops there have been surrounded by the separatist forces.

In fact, Russian President Vladmir Putin’s remarks, here, indirectly touched on the Debaltseve issue. Conceivably, the separatists may eventually allow – under Russian pressure – to evacuate the besieged Ukrainian troops to safety.

But on the whole, while there is no dearth of doomsday predictions about the latest agreement withering away (as had happened to last September’s accord), the probability is that this German-French-Russian deal will hold and the fighting will stop — at least in immediate terms. The separatists have the upper hand and they will want to consolidate their gains, while the forces deputed from Kiev have been battered out of shape and will also want to recoup.

As I said above, the catch lies in Kiev’s willingness to concede autonomy to the eastern regions. The kinetics of the Ukraine conflict will ultimately depend on the issue of constitutional reform.

Without doubt, Putin comes out on top, as Moscow’s consistent stance that it has no territorial ambitions over Ukraine has been vindicated. What emerges, on the other hand, is that Russia wants to preserve Ukraine’s territorial integrity and is willing to contribute to that end – provided, of course, Russia’s legitimate interest in a Ukraine that gets along well equally with both the West and Russia is ensured. The German and French leaders seem to get the point. But what about their trans-Atlantic partner in Washington? President Barack Obama is finding himself almost in the same boat as Poroshenko. Today’s accord will be torn to pieces by Obama’s neocon critics who will accuse him of having ‘appeased’ Russia. They want the US to go to war, if need be, to stop Russia’s ‘aggression’. Some harsh writings have already begun appearing in the north american media. The Ukrainian emigre community is very influential in Canadian politics, too.

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Russian-backed separatists wait for their transport, preparing to leave towards the frontline, in the village of Vergulivka, just outside Debaltseve, eastern Ukraine.14 Feb 2015
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Ukrainian military reports 26 have died in the last 24 hours - including one child
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From midnight, troops on either side are supposed to be abiding by the agreement thrashed out in Minsk on Thursday
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A woman walks past the body of a child covered with a cloth after shelling between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian government forces in a residential area of the town of Artemivsk
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The Ukrainian military continues to train its newly mobilised recruits near Kiev
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An area roughly 30 to 85 miles wide should separate the forces by the end of the fortnight. Pictured: A new recruit training
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According to the press center of the anti-terrorist operation overnight terrorists from the pro-illegal armed groups continued to inflict blows fire on positions of power ATO.

The largest number of attacks recorded in Debaltsivskomu direction. During the night, the enemy, more than 15 times using multiple rocket launchers, tanks, artillery fired the town and surrounding villages.

Around 3 am militants tried unsuccessfully to storm the position ATU forces in the south-eastern outskirts Debal'tsevo.

Also, the situation remains tense and Lugansk area. It suffered from enemy action Novotoshkivske settlements, villages Lugansk, alder.

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Recently broadcast TV pro-terrorist fighters self-published evidence of the presence of Russian weapons on the territory of Ukrainian Donbass.

In a video documentary telling about the allegedly left the Ukrainian military in fighting in the area of ATO armored BM-21 and
122-mm rockets (MS) to them. In support of this footage invoked, which show data armored and boxes of ammunition to them.

Thus, a terrorist with the call sign "September" rozpechatuye one of the boxes of ammunition and reads entries packing lists, according to which data packed military ammunition Armed Forces of Ukraine Major Kolosovskii VV Captain Churilov VS and Lieutenant-Commander Hiss SA However, these military military service in the military unit A2327 (51 combined arms structure and property of Crimea) and on information provided by the Directorate of ECT in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, not out of temporarily occupied territory. That is, the data indicated belong ammunition military unit and stored in the technical area number 2 (p. Belogorskogo Intermountain district, Crimea), which shows the officers involved in the inventory of the property during the overhaul of the military unit during November-December 2013. That is why their names listed in the packing lists.

Thus, the last movement of 122 mm MS within Crimea was made more 11/18/2013. In the period from December 2013 until the time of the seizure of the military unit A2327 (51 osoim, Crimea) units of the Armed Forces in March 2014, moving 122 mm MS technical area number 2 (p. Belogorskogo Intermountain district, AR Crimea) is not the case at all, especially outside the Crimea.
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Russian helicopter flies into Ukrainian air space on Friday, Lysenko says| Ukrinform

KYIV, February 14 /Ukrinform/. An unmarked helicopter flew into the territory of Ukraine in Luhansk region and then returned to Russia.

The spokesman for anti-terrorist operation in the Donbas conflict zone Andriy Lysenko told journalists at a briefing, an Ukrinform correspondent reported.

"Yesterday at 9:35, the border guards recorded the fact of Ukrainian air space violation by an unmarked helicopter flying 2.5-3 kilometers inside Ukraine at an altitude of 400 meters above the village of Krasna Talakivka in Luhansk region. Afterwards, it returned to the territory of the Russian Federation," Lysenko said.

In addition, there were reported 14 episodes of enemy drones deployed over Donbas areas in the past 24 hour period.

"As we can see, most aerial reconnaissance efforts are focused on the southern areas of Donetsk region.

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One civilian dies after gunmen shell village close to Mariupol city| Ukrinform
KYIV, February 14 /Ukrinform/. On Saturday morning, pro-Russia gunmen attacked Sartana, a village near the city of Mariupol, the largest port city in Donetsk region.

The press service of Sartana village council has informed, the website of Mariupol city reported.

"Three houses were ruined when projectiles exploded near them in Partyzanksa Street. A civilian was seriously wounded. He was taken to a city hospital in a critical medical condition where he died later," the statement said.

According to the village head Stepan Makhsma, four houses were damaged where nine residents live. Three houses had shattered windows and one house had multiple damages.

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KYIV, February 14 /Ukrinform/. Debaltseve city is burning. Shelling from all types of artillery by the Armed Forces of Russian Federation never ceases.

The news is reported by adviser to Ukraine's Minister of the Interior Zorian Shkiryak on his Facebook page.

"Almost all office buildings have been ruined, hundreds of private houses are destroyed and entire residential neighborhoods. The enemy attacked city police station building with MLRS BM-21 Grad rockets. Several shells hit the building. There is a considerable damage to the building. After all, Debaltseve police continue to serve," the statement said.

As stated today at the press center of anti-terrorist operation in the Donbas conflict zone, the highest number of attacks have been recorded in Debaltseve areas.

http://www.ukrinform.ua/eng/news/gunmens_grad_rocket_attacks_kill_14_civilians_on_friday_329012

KYIV, February 14 /Ukrinform/. Gunmen's Grad rocket attacks killed 14 civilians in the Donbas conflict zone on Friday.

The press center of anti-terrorist operation reported the data.

"We witnessed once again that the enemy attacked the residential areas in spite of civilians living there on Friday. Yesterday, criminals using Grad rockets killed six civilians in the village of Shchastya, five civilians in the village of Hornyak and three in Artemivsk," the statement said.

Battle for Debaltseve: Ukrainian soldiers fight Russian-backed militants near east Ukraine hub town
Published on 13 Feb 2015



A photo taken on Feb. 9, 2015 shows Pro-Russian separatists' ammunition and an armoured vehicle in Uglegorsk, 6 kms southwest of Debaltseve.
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U.S. ambassador posts satellite images of Russian air defense systems near Debaltseve

U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt has posted U.S. satellite images showing Russian air defense systems and other military systems deployed in the area of Debaltseve, Donetsk region.

The ambassador posted some satellite images of the area Debaltseve on Twitter.

The ambassador said they believed that these were Russian military systems, rather than weapons of separatists.

The Russian military also deployed air defense systems near Debaltseve, the diplomat said.

According to him, the Russian troops at the border are preparing a large batch of supplies to separatists, who are fighting in the east of Ukraine.

At least 7 Ukrainian servicemen KIA and 23 more WIA yesterday.

Seven Ukrainian service personnel have been killed and 23 wounded in fighting against separatists in eastern Ukraine in the past 24 hours, a Kyiv military spokesman said on Saturday, despite a four-power peace deal worked out in Belarus.

Ukrainian reserve officers called up during the fourth wave of partial mobilization take part in military exercises in the Army Training Center near the village of Desna, Chernihiv region, on Feb. 13, 2015.
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At least one person killed by mortar fire in central Donetsk - correspondent - Interfax
DONETSK. Feb 14 (Interfax) - At least one person was killed by mortar fire in the center of Donetsk, an Interfax correspondent reports from the scene.

Shells hit a public transport stop near the Donetsk university, and a dead man's body is currently lying near the university building, he said.
 
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Russian Emergency Situations Ministry official said the country's 14th humanitarian aid convoy for southeast Ukraine has crossed the border.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Two parts of the 14th humanitarian aid convoy of Russia's Emergencies Ministry have crossed the border with Ukraine and are now moving towards Donetsk and Luhansk, an Emergencies Ministry official said Sunday.
"The customs clearance has been completed at two border crossings…Two columns crossed the border, one of them is heading to Donetsk, the other to Luhansk," Oleg Voronov, deputy chief of the crisis management center with the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry, said.
Voronov noted that more than 900 tons of aid will be delivered to both Donetsk and Luhansk. According to Voronov, the humanitarian cargo includes food, medicines, construction materials and student books.
The 14th aid convoy comprises more than 170 vehicles carrying a total of more than 1,800 tons of humanitarian aid to the people of the conflict-torn Donbas.
Ukraine's eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk have been suffering from a severe humanitarian crisis as a result of a military operation launched by Kiev against local independence supporters in mid-April, 2014.
Russia has sent 13 humanitarian aid convoys with more than 18,000 tons of aid since last August. The 13th convoy returned to Russia earlier this week, after bringing over 1,100 tons of aid to Donetsk and Luhansk.
Russia’s Aid Convoy Crosses Ukraine Border, Moves Toward Donbas – Ministry / Sputnik International
 
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