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Bogdanna Nikonenko reacts during a funeral ceremony for her father Sergiy, a serviceman from the battalion "Aydar" who was killed in the fighting in Luhansk region in eastern Ukraine, at the Independence Square in central Kiev, January 20, 2015. REUTERS/Gleb Garanich
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Dnipropetrovsk oblast buried deceased ATO hero - Міністерство оборони України
Wednesday, January 21, DNIPROPETROVSK OBLAST — Deceased hero Capt. Maxym Presnyakov, commanding officer of recon company, detached mechanized brigade, was buried in Dnipropetrovsk oblast.

Maxym Presnyakov — nickname Artist — accomplished combat tasks in the ATO region since July 2014. On January 18, his combat vehicle was attacked by terrorists. Officer covered his subordinate and was killed.

Eternal Glory to Hero!

Heroes never die!
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Givi Nets a Big Fish

By Yurasumy

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk for FortRuss

Commander of the 93rd “Zhitomir” Brigade, Oleg Mikats, taken prisoner at the airport.

At first he was described as a battalion commander. But it’s not so. Oleg Mikats is the commander of the 93rd Brigade. He was the third on the Right Sector party list during the recent Rada elections [he is shown in illustration above in the top row, second from the left]. So I wish to congratulate Novorossia fighters on their good catch. And I hope they realize what a big fish they caught.


Right Sector Party list

The Ukrainian exterminators were captured during an attempt to break through to the airport. Poroshenko’s advisor Biryukov tried to explain yet another defeat (“Damn you, you Russian bastards!”). But the advisor either did not know or failed to mention that one of the prisoners turned out to be Oleg Mikats, the commanding officer of the 93rd Brigade who took part in the well known meeting with Motorola and Kupol. I hope everyone understands that brigade commanders do not lead “tens of soldiers” (as Biryukov claimed) into an attack (a Ukrainian brigade has a full personnel strength of 3,000 soldiers). Is that so hard to understand? So what kind of advice is he giving Poroshenko? And what’s the value of a brigade commander who took his troops straight into captivity.

The story gets even worse for the exterminators: this was a real assault, with tanks and everything. And they failed yet again. It failed spectacularly, with the capture of a brigade commander, one of 11 in active service.


Background: Oleg Mikhailovich Mikats (born 23 October 1975, Novograd-Volynskiy, USSR)—Ukrainian exterminator, Ukrainian Armed Forces colonel, commander of the 93rd Separate Mechanized Brigade. Participant of the war on the Donbass. Became known as one of the commanders of the assault on the Donetsk Airport.

Givi took in the Ukrainian Nazis and looked their commander in the eye, asking him a few direct questions. Motorola, who was supposed to have been killed several times, only asked him “So, you took your people straight to the slaughterhouse?”.

“Today for the first time in my life was felt open shame for a Ukrainian serviceman. The commander of the 93rd Brigade Oleg Mikats publically threatened me and a colleague from foreign media with a physical assault. With tens of witnesses, he told me that if he sees us one more time (he was referring to all journalists) in the village of Peski, he will personally shoot us” wrote the Ukrainian journalist Trubachev.

Now he can feel shame for a second time.

Translator's Note: It does appear possible that the entire 93rd Brigade was destroyed or at least decimated in the battle, though it is unlikely the unit was at full strength of 3,000 soldiers or that it had its full complement of vehicles and artillery. Ukrainian brigades are usually little more than battalions, comparable to individual Novorossia battalions in terms of numerical strength though certainly not fighting ability or determination. Mikats' capture suggests he, a rising star in the Right Sector, tried to prove his organization would succeed where the regular military had failed. Imagine the hero's welcome he'd have gotten in Kiev had he succeeded in retaking the Donetsk Airport. Though one should not assume his political career is over--the Right Sector will not hesitate to pin all blame for yet another military disaster on both the military leadership and the civilian one, up to and including the commander-in-chief Poroshenko.

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Novorussian front January 20th

I have to admit that what happened in the past 24 hours has been a surprise for me. For one thing, I expected an attack later in the year because right now the weather conditions are bad and very much favor the defenders. I also expected a heavy fire preparation of the battlefield (meaning that the Ukies would shell Novorussian positions) followed by a push by Ukie armor along several well defined axes. I expected the Novorussians to retreat to pull-in the attacking Ukies into firepockets and then gradually destroy them. This is not at all what actually happened.

First, the Ukies continued shelling, but not the Novorussian forces, but the usual terrorist shelling of the civilian neighborhoods of Donesk and other cities, Gorlovka, in particular, has suffered terribly and is completely in ruins. That kind of shelling makes the Ukies feel good, but it serves no military purpose.

Second, there was not concentrated attack of Ukie armor. 2 tanks here, 4 thanks there, but nothing like the heavy armor attack the Ukies could in theory launch.
So yes, the Ukies did try to attack at the airport, and the combats there for a while were extremely intense, no doubt about that, but these were limited attack. The same deal goes for the town of Peski which now is mostly in Novorussian hands: the combat operations there were very intense, and the Ukrainians are still dug in the the northern outskirts of the town, but the size of the entire battle is still clearly local.

So my first conclusion is this: this was a major escalation of combat operations, but this has NOT been The Big Ukrainian Attack. That attack has simply not materialized yet.
The second outright bizarre and counter-intuitive event was the reaction of the Novorussians who instead of digging in actually went on the offensive in several locations including Mariupol. The good news is that the Novorussians are clearly very careful and moving in slowly and carefully which is vital for a successful operation to liberate Mariupol (assuming that this is their goal). The Novorussian morale is, by all reports, rock solid, optimistic and careful. Exactly what you need to prevail. The Novorussian victory at the airport is a huge moral boost for the Novorussians and a crushing psychological blow for the Ukies.

My second conclusion: the Novorussians have done everything exactly right. Far from feeling the need for a layers defense in depth, they have immediately counter-attacked and they have done so successfully, deliberately and carefully.
Today I listened with great interest to a press conference by a Ukrainian military spokesman who declared that a large number of Russian Federation troops had participated in the combats around the airport and that more had entered the Ukrainian territory. This is very good news because the Ukie always begin by hallucinating about Russian Federation forces every time they are badly defeated somewhere. It could well be that the Ukie losses are even bigger than we know.

As for the Russians, they have clearly reopened the Voentorg spigot at full capacity. Well, in reality, the Voentorg was already working at full capacity for months now, but now the Russians don't even try to hide it very much. Novorussian commanders are now openly saying that they have all the men and weapons they need.
Still, and while the news today is all good, I caution everybody against over optimistic "hurray we won!!!" kind of attitudes. I will repeat this crucial finding again and again: The Big Attack has not happened yet.
Why not?
Good question. For one thing, the weather is really not good for the Ukies. Not only does this kind of weather inherently favor the defender over the attacker, but the Russian hardware (sights) is much better suited to these conditions that the old Soviet era gear used by the Ukies.
Second, you might have heard of this old rule of thumb that the attacker needs roughly 3:1 superiority over the defender to be successful. As any rule of thumb, it is not really true, it has a lot of exceptions and it makes a lot of usually inapplicable assumptions. Still, this rule is still "kinda, sorta, generally true". For the Ukies this does not mean an overall 3:1 superiority along the entire front, but yes, it does suggest that a 3:1 superiority is needed along the axes of attack in order to punch through the Novorussian defenses. The only way to achieve that is with high mobility. And this is where the current weather conditions definitely complicate things. So maybe the Ukies are waiting for better weather to start The Big One.

Then there are all those rumors about Ukie units refusing to go on the offensive. Initially, I dismissed them as Novorussian propaganda, but then the Ukrainian social media also began echoing this information. Apparently, entire units are refusing to go on the offensive. Frankly, I don't blame them. Sure, the Ukies did lick their wounds from the catastrophic campaign last summer, but there is only that much anybody can do in just few months. In most countries, just basic training, "bootcamp", is 3-4 months after which a civilian is considered only as a basic solider, a "private". Only then does this basic solider get any kind of specialty. As for a NCO (non commissioned, a corporal, sergeant, etc.) or an officer - they need even much more training. Except that the Ukies already used a lot of their older, but at least trained, NCOs and officers this summer and now their are either dead, or crippled or disgusted. Poroshenko has now announced three waves of mobilization for 2015, but is rather evident for anybody with a semblance of intelligence that he is really conscripting cannon fodder, not a capable fighting force. In contrast, the Novorussians now have plenty of well-trained, well equipped and battle hardened experienced men on all levels. And make no mistake, a company of experienced battle hardened soldiers will defeat an entire battalion of clueless recruits, especially if the former are better equipped (which is the case thanks to the Voentorg).

So, maybe, just maybe, the Nazi junta is seriously beginning to run out of idiots and fanatics willing to get slaughtered in the Donbass. This is not an assumption we can make, it is too early for that, but I just cannot understand what the point of this latest half-baked attack could possibly have been.

Finally, there is the very real possibility that the junta is just completely losing control of the country - that orders are given, some body follows them, somebody not, somebody half war but not really, that complete disorganization and chaos is settling in and that there is no real Ukie army left, just lots of guns and lots of people, but not a unified combat force.


Cheers,

The Saker
 
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The prisoner punisher was brought to a stop, where 13 people died in the morning fire of the Nazis. Local residents almost tore Nazi with bare hands.
 
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  • At least 12 died in the tram while another was killed in car passing nearby
  • Ukrainian soldiers all but abandon Donetsk airport after battles with rebels
  • Defense Ministry said six soldiers had died over the last day of fighting
  • Russia and Ukraine have agreed to pull back heavy artillery from the city
  • But peace talks in Berlin found no agreement on a withdrawal of all troops
Published: 08:44 GMT, 22 January 2015 | Updated: 11:54 GMT, 22 January 2015

Several passengers were killed in Ukraine after a tram in the war-torn city of Donetsk was hit with a shell hours after peace talks called for a ceasefire
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Blown out: Several passengers died on this tram when it was hit by a shell during heavy fighting between government forces and Pro-Russian rebels in the war-torn eastern city of Donetsk
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Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk blamed pro-Russian rebels for the deadly attack on the tram in the eastern city of Donetsk and said Russia should bear responsibility for the incident
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Civilians survey a burnt-out car which was passing the tram when the shell hit. The incident took place in a part of the city under the control of Pro-Russian separatists who are fighting Ukrainian government forces
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Destruction: The shell struck the vehicle this morning, instantly killing numerous passengers and blowing out the windows of a nearby building
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Donetsk People's Republic soldiers of the 'Sparta' squad clear debris in the destroyed Donetsk Airport. The government announced that it had withdrawn from the main terminal after fierce fighting with rebels
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A Ukrainian serviceman fires a weapon during fighting with pro-Russian rebels in Pesky village near Donetsk
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Destroyed: The Defense Ministry said six soldiers had died over the previous day of fighting for the airport, which lies on the northern edge of the Russian-backed rebel stronghold
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A Ukrainian serviceman is seen during fighting with pro-Russian separatists in Pesky village, near Donetsk
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A Ukrainian armoured vehicle seen during fighting with pro-Russian rebels in Pesky village, near Donetsk
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ATO NEWS: The tensest situation is in DAP and at the 29th and 31st block posts - Міністерство оборони України

Thursday, January 22, DONBAS — According to the ATO press center, from 6.00 p.m., January 21, the situation in the ATO region is tense.

Illegal armed formations attacked Ukrainian troops near Nyjne, Novotoshkivske, Karlivka, Avdiyvka, Mykolayvka, Troytseke, Maloorlivka, Zaytseve and Krymske; Stanytsa Luganska, Schastya, Mariynka, Kryakivka, Berezove, Kamenka, Opytne, Popasna, Chornukhine, Ozyryanivka, Novogorodske.

The tensest situation is in DAP and at the 29th and 31st block posts.

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ATO NEWS: Rebels continue fighting amid ceasefire call - Міністерство оборони України
Thursday, January 22. DONBAS — Despite of the Berlin arrangements on withdrawal of heavy weapons from demarcation line the rebels continue attacks against the ATO positions and communities controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Since morning the terrorists have completed over 30 attacks using artillery systems and ‘GRAD’. As of this moment the most dynamic situation is near Debaltseve where the rebels attack the Ukrainian block posts. At least five attacks have been executed near the DAP. Near Mariupil, the rebels’ artillery has attacked the ATO troops for two times.

Our artillery units attack in response only against known rebels’ points, their weapons and personnel while avoiding attacks against local citizens.


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Memorial plaques to deceased ATO soldiers opened in Kirovograd - Міністерство оборони України
Thursday, January 22. KIROVOGRAD — Memorial plaques were opened on walls of Kirovograd schools where ATO soldiers had studied.

Memorial plaques were opened to Igor Gorovenko and Fedir Romanov on front face of school No.24; Dmytro Prydatok on front face of school No.30; Oleg Parshutin on front face of school No.23, Olexander Kondakov on front face of school No.35.

Relatives, combat comrades, families, servicemen observed a minute of silence in tribute to the memory of deceased heroes.

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Awoman lays flowers at the memorial plaque on the the spot death of EuroMaidan activist Serhiy Nigoyan on Hrushevskoho Street on March 2 in Kyiv.
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Ukrainian servicemen work at the checkpoint near Debaltseve on Jan. 21.
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Relatives attend the funeral service of 11-year-old Artem Lytkin, who was killed during the shellings on Jan. 19 in Debaltseve on Jan. 21.
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Relatives attend the funeral service of 11-year-old Artem Lytkin, who was killed during the shellings on Jan. 19 in Debaltseve on Jan. 21.
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Ukrainian servicemen take rest at the barracks at the checkpoint near Debaltseve on Jan. 21.
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Ukrainian forces servicemen check passengers of a car at a checkpoint in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kurakhove, near Donetsk on Jan. 21, 2015.
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http://www.ukrinform.ua/eng/news/16_ukrainian_soldiers_captured_in_donetsk_airport_328404

KYIV, January 22 /Ukrinform/. Sixteen Ukrainian soldiers have been wounded and captured during the fighting for the Donetsk airport.

It has been reported by the press service of the Ukraine's Ministry of Defense.
 
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Lugansk Republic militias captured the 31st checkpoint of Nazi occupiers.
 
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The map reflecting the situation in Donbas as of 12.00 on January 22 has been released by the information and analytical center of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council.
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Prisoners-Nazis from the airport walking by streets of Donetsk, fired by their artillery.
 
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