Civil war in Ukraine: News & discussion

[nekrasa]

Shelling is being done from both sides but no one can deny this that war is going on there

Surely, but Donetsk, Lugansk and other smaller cities are under control of Novorussia, and these cities are shelled. Do you admit it?

 

[Hindustani78]

Surely, but Donetsk, Lugansk and other smaller cities are under control of Novorussia, and these cities are shelled. Do you admit it?

Ukrainian establishment doesn't deny this that Separatists are having control over those regions but the point is this that those separatists are backed by Russian Federation troops.

 

[nekrasa]

Ukrainian establishment doesn't deny this that Separatists are having control over those regions but the point is this that those separatists are backed by Russian Federation troops.

It dosen't matter in this case, couse we are trying to find who is responsible for suffering of civilians from Donbas region by the shelling... However I am happy that ukrophil like you see this part of the civil war.

 

[Hindustani78]

It dosen't matter in this case, couse we are trying to find who is responsible for suffering of civilians from Donbas region by the shelling... However I am happy that ukrophil like you see this part of the civil war.

Civilians are suffering on both sides , we cant deny how Ukrainian speaking people were attacked nor how the Russian speaking people vice verse.

What does this ukrophil means ?

 

[nekrasa]

This means that you like ukrainian side. You know end of the word: -phile means you love it (ukro).

Something from Donetsk:

 

[Superboy]

 

[Hindustani78]

This means that you like ukrainian side. You know end of the word: -phile means you love it (ukro).

I do think that Ukrainian side is not being represented where as Russian Federation side is having too much supporters . Debates should be from two sides, what is wrong if someone is showing the Ukrainian side ?

I try to talk because of the human sufferings and countries sovereignty and intergity

 

[vostok]

 

[nekrasa]

Another protest song:

 

[vostok]

@nekrasa
One my acquaintance bought an apartment for his son in Krakow in spring 2014. He said that they were very well treated, locals praised maidan and so on. However, he traveled to Poland last month - the relation changed to negative.
Is this a common tendency in Poland?

 

[nekrasa]

Tendency to support Ukraine you mean.

I belive the tendention to support Ukraine/Maidan are less and less. A year ago after what that all happened public opinion, media were very pro-ukr, but there's the voices that supporting Ukraine, especially this one under red-black bandera (nomen omen), is stupid and insulting the memory of polish civilians murdered in Wolyn 1943. Many of the public people, authorities, rappers and so on declered it. For examples: rapper:

Legia Warsaw fans (they are also anti-russian) during the home game with Metalist Kharkiv shouted: “f.uck UPA and Bandera”

Here's ukie propaganda/lies after the polish fans visited Kiev:

Thus, lots of people know now that this Maidan wasn't uprising of ukrainian, but another plan USA in their geoplitical strategy... However here's also a strong support from communities which are pro-ukies and anti-russian (they are also pro-NATO, pro-USA) as well...
There's a case with russian embargo, which hits polish business – it's another argument for no-support ukr.
So summing it: Elites and MSM are pro-ukies, the people aren't...

 

[vostok]

Tendency to support Ukraine you mean.

I belive the tendention to support Ukraine/Maidan are less and less. A year ago after what that all happened public opinion, media were very pro-ukr, but there's the voices that supporting Ukraine, especially this one under red-black bandera (nomen omen), is stupid and insulting the memory of polish civilians murdered in Wolyn 1943. Many of the public people, authorities, rappers and so on declered it. For examples: rapper:

Legia Warsaw fans (they are also anti-russian) during the home game with Metalist Kharkiv shouted: “f.uck UPA and Bandera”

Here's ukie propaganda/lies after the polish fans visited Kiev:

Thus, lots of people know now that this Maidan wasn't uprising of ukrainian, but another plan USA in their geoplitical strategy... However here's also a strong support from communities which are pro-ukies and anti-russian (they are also pro-NATO, pro-USA) as well...
There's a case with russian embargo, which hits polish business – it's another argument for no-support ukr.
So summing it: Elites and MSM are pro-ukies, the people aren't...

Thanks for the answer. I understood the situation.

 

[bobo6661]

but it's still very high and the basic for its polish people don't like russians to much ... for what they did in past history
people like to say"The enemy of my enemy is my friend "
and here for futboll lovers

 

[vostok]

Kiev Satan's ball: La Bohème cut and ate cake in a form of Russian child. One of the party guests - Vasilieva, sick woman, for dirty Western money coming up with tales about Russian soldiers in New Russia.

 

[metronome]

Kiev Satan's ball: La Bohème cut and ate cake in a form of Russian child. One of the party guests - Vasilieva, sick woman, for dirty Western money coming up with tales about Russian soldiers in New Russia.

unbelievable, that is just sick !

wow, just wow....

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ok, just watched the full thing.. my previous comment was halfway during the vid and just about the cake scene, some pretty disturbing images toward the end, maybe you should put a warning and not fully embed but provide a link for it..

and just to play devil's advocate for a minute, as despicable as the situation is, both the war and this cake party. I read that Ukrainians have been referred to as "little Russians" traditionally, something which the ultras (as one would expect) take great exception to, so the cake party is possibly not all about celebrating killing kids in Donbass, but as a rebuke to the "little Russian" tag.. it's in pretty bad taste either way.

@vostok