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The official explanation violates the laws of physics. It said two civil engineers in mechanical engineering. They requested the Norwegian politicians and the media ask critical questions as to why the World Trade Center towers 1, 2 and 7 collapsed
They are two very ordinary civil engineering degree at the Technical College and works with process in the oil industry. One is an employee of StatoilHydro, the second in a consulting company. Political positions them as follows:
- We belong on the right in Norwegian politics, "says Jan Hundseid to Aftenbladet.
- The United States is a top country with friendly and nice people. Our criticism has nothing to do with right or left politics to do, but with right and wrong, "said his brother Ove Hundseid.
Got a shock
- Why did you get interested you for 11 September-attack?
- We sat at a friend who suddenly said that the WTC towers were blown up, "says Ove. -. At first we were shocked. But he said it, is a talented and wise man who can rely on.
Eventually, the two checked on the internet. The ordered films that examine television footage from when the twin towers collapsed. Film of how the WTC Building 7 fell 7-8 hours later, they have also gone through.
- The laws of nature can not explain how the towers races down in near freefall speed, and left behind as dust.
Strong core
WTC Twin Towers 1 and 2 were built in the late 1960's. The buildings were about 415 feet high, 63 x 63 meters wide and had 110 floors. Each of the towers weighed 5-700000 tons. A fifth of this was pure steel.
- They were designed to withstand hurricane and being hit by planes. It was also taken account of fire due to jet fuel, "said Jan.
- The towers had a core composed of 47 massive steel beams thick, thicker than those normally used in buildings, "says Ove.
He outlines how each tower was struck by their own aircraft.
- If we accept that the floors around the steel core collapsed due to fire after flytreffet, it is impossible to understand that no steel core remained in the middle of the ruins.
Not hot enough
The official explanation for the collapse of the Twin Towers says that the heat from the fires made the steel softer and therefore collapsed. This rejects Jan and Ove Hundseid.
They get support from Kevin Ryan, an employee of the company that certified the steel used. He told the NIST Commission chairman that if the core reached a heat 450gr C, the steel would still retain 75 percent of its strength.
1560gr C needed to melt steel building. Such a temperature can be no ordinary fire can not come up in.
- By the black smoke rising for a while after the planes hit, we see that there was no good combustion, "says Jan.
- It's like when you throttle a gas appliance, and it starts to smut. Poor combustion means it was not very hot, "says Ove.
Their point of view is confirmed by the official NIST report says that the highest temperature Mon identified on an exterior steel beam was 250gr C.
Crushed to dust
The official NIST report states that the WTC 1, the north tower collapsed in 11 seconds, WTC-2 in the south at 9 seconds.
The collapse should have occurred by gravity alone. Each floor should have crushed the underlying as a pannekakeras. Falls resulting in enormous clouds of dust that settled over Manhattan when the towers were pulverized.
- This can not possibly vote. If you drop a large piece of reinforced concrete from 200 meters high, it will smash to bits, do not turn into dust, "says Ove. -. After 110 races floors on top of each other, it should been left a 30-40 meter high pile of rubble.
Must be calculated
When Jan Hundseid recently participated in the Aftenbladet online debate about this, he was opposed by submitting one who thought the gravitational energy was strong enough to pulverize everything. What do the brothers of that?
- This is a difficult calculation. Some of the energy used to deform the steel, something to pulverize the concrete and some were transferred in fall speed, "says Ove.
- If one is to figure out the use of energy in the given case, the speed, one must also take into account that the remnants of iron beams were ejected over the neighboring buildings during the fall, "said Jan.
He reminds us that there is no official analysis of how the buildings were broken down by 9.11 seconds. NIST only analyzed how the collapse started, not the actual collapse.
- It is absolutely necessary to accomplish such an analysis to find out how the massive steel structures could collapse completely in such a short time, "said Jan.
Biljardkulen
The American engineering professor Judy Wood has made parts of the calculation that Hundseid brothers calling for. Last fall she published a webnotat called "A refutation of the official collapse theory."
Notice that the top part of the cure foam's unmatched WCT Tower starts to crumble before the damaged area begins to move downward, writes physics professor Judy Wood.
She has figured out that if you dropped a billiard ball in a vacuum from the top of the WTC towers, it will use 9.22 seconds down to the ground.
Then let it not possible that 110 floors collapsing just as fast (9-11 seconds, according to NIST) as the gravitational energy will be used to pulverize concrete, hurling the debris from adjacent buildings and smash on the floor floor in the fall.
Wood expects that the shorter the time it would take for each floor to collapse in the next, like dominoes, would have been 96.7 seconds, more than a half minute.
January Hundseid commenting Woods analysis as follows:
- It is so well illustrated by calculations and pictures that should lead to new official assessments of the collapse of the towers. What we ask for is an even more thorough analysis than that Wood did. The entire building must be analyzed using the computer programs.
Explosives
If the energy is used to pulverize the floors above and beyond, as this picture shows, not the same power while accelerating down the building, resonating Judy Wood.
How then could the twin towers collapse so quickly?
- It must have been used explosives down the floor, I think Jan and Ove Hundseid.
When they see television footage of the towers in slow motion, add the brand to small explosions that go horizontally from the walls far below and before the collapse at this level.
- Some say this is the air being pushed out, but I think it is similar such explosions as seen under a controlled demolition, "says Ove.
- We have also seen footage of the firefighters who helped after the attacks. Both they and the reporters said that they heard several explosions in the basements of the towers. Television footage from the lobby of one tower shows that everything was blown out, which can be difficult because the plane hit 80 floors higher up, "said Jan.
Building 7
In the case of WTC Building 7, which collapsed at. 17.20 the same day, according Hundseid brothers that there is no doubt that the collapse was a controlled demolition.
- It collapsed completely symmetrical at 6.5 seconds. The laws of nature do not allow that this could have happened without the help of explosives.
- But who shall have failed to bring in as much as the dynamite needed to blow up these buildings?
Jan and Ove Hundseid have no answer for this. They have just one wish:
- That there must be a new investigation, so 11/9-Sannhetsbevegelsen want.
Open letter
Friday 16 November they saw a notice in Stavanger Aftenblad that the newspaper's Good Weekend supplements would contain an article on 11 September attacks. They had a couple of months working on authoring a letter with a number of internet links and create 27 sets of copies of two DVDs to attach.
The letter sums up what the media has reported on events before and after 11 September 2001 and urges recipients to ask critical questions.
- I said to Ove that now we have only sent out what we have worked with.
So they sent two engineers an open letter to all the Norwegian Storting, the prime minister, defense minister and foreign minister, as well as several media.
- What kind of response did you?
- Very small. Progress Party Member of Parliament Ulf Erik Knudsen asked us to stop sending him such a spray. He suggested that we make contact with NTH to refund tuition, "said Jan, looking for given his brother.
- Commenting on corporation was asked if it is "time to get conspiratorial?" No, my answer is, but it is time to ask for the facts, "said Jan.
- For those who want to familiarize themselves with the collapse of WTC 1, 2 and 7, I recommend the documentary 911 Mysteries Part 1: Demolition as can be seen on video.google.com end Ove and adds:
- If the official explanation is correct, the standard for high-rise buildings must be changed.
There have not yet heard any demand.
Ber politikerne spørre hva som egentlig skjedde 11. september - Stavanger Aftenblad
They are two very ordinary civil engineering degree at the Technical College and works with process in the oil industry. One is an employee of StatoilHydro, the second in a consulting company. Political positions them as follows:
- We belong on the right in Norwegian politics, "says Jan Hundseid to Aftenbladet.
- The United States is a top country with friendly and nice people. Our criticism has nothing to do with right or left politics to do, but with right and wrong, "said his brother Ove Hundseid.
Got a shock
- Why did you get interested you for 11 September-attack?
- We sat at a friend who suddenly said that the WTC towers were blown up, "says Ove. -. At first we were shocked. But he said it, is a talented and wise man who can rely on.
Eventually, the two checked on the internet. The ordered films that examine television footage from when the twin towers collapsed. Film of how the WTC Building 7 fell 7-8 hours later, they have also gone through.
- The laws of nature can not explain how the towers races down in near freefall speed, and left behind as dust.
Strong core
WTC Twin Towers 1 and 2 were built in the late 1960's. The buildings were about 415 feet high, 63 x 63 meters wide and had 110 floors. Each of the towers weighed 5-700000 tons. A fifth of this was pure steel.
- They were designed to withstand hurricane and being hit by planes. It was also taken account of fire due to jet fuel, "said Jan.
- The towers had a core composed of 47 massive steel beams thick, thicker than those normally used in buildings, "says Ove.
He outlines how each tower was struck by their own aircraft.
- If we accept that the floors around the steel core collapsed due to fire after flytreffet, it is impossible to understand that no steel core remained in the middle of the ruins.
Not hot enough
The official explanation for the collapse of the Twin Towers says that the heat from the fires made the steel softer and therefore collapsed. This rejects Jan and Ove Hundseid.
They get support from Kevin Ryan, an employee of the company that certified the steel used. He told the NIST Commission chairman that if the core reached a heat 450gr C, the steel would still retain 75 percent of its strength.
1560gr C needed to melt steel building. Such a temperature can be no ordinary fire can not come up in.
- By the black smoke rising for a while after the planes hit, we see that there was no good combustion, "says Jan.
- It's like when you throttle a gas appliance, and it starts to smut. Poor combustion means it was not very hot, "says Ove.
Their point of view is confirmed by the official NIST report says that the highest temperature Mon identified on an exterior steel beam was 250gr C.
Crushed to dust
The official NIST report states that the WTC 1, the north tower collapsed in 11 seconds, WTC-2 in the south at 9 seconds.
The collapse should have occurred by gravity alone. Each floor should have crushed the underlying as a pannekakeras. Falls resulting in enormous clouds of dust that settled over Manhattan when the towers were pulverized.
- This can not possibly vote. If you drop a large piece of reinforced concrete from 200 meters high, it will smash to bits, do not turn into dust, "says Ove. -. After 110 races floors on top of each other, it should been left a 30-40 meter high pile of rubble.
Must be calculated
When Jan Hundseid recently participated in the Aftenbladet online debate about this, he was opposed by submitting one who thought the gravitational energy was strong enough to pulverize everything. What do the brothers of that?
- This is a difficult calculation. Some of the energy used to deform the steel, something to pulverize the concrete and some were transferred in fall speed, "says Ove.
- If one is to figure out the use of energy in the given case, the speed, one must also take into account that the remnants of iron beams were ejected over the neighboring buildings during the fall, "said Jan.
He reminds us that there is no official analysis of how the buildings were broken down by 9.11 seconds. NIST only analyzed how the collapse started, not the actual collapse.
- It is absolutely necessary to accomplish such an analysis to find out how the massive steel structures could collapse completely in such a short time, "said Jan.
Biljardkulen
The American engineering professor Judy Wood has made parts of the calculation that Hundseid brothers calling for. Last fall she published a webnotat called "A refutation of the official collapse theory."
Notice that the top part of the cure foam's unmatched WCT Tower starts to crumble before the damaged area begins to move downward, writes physics professor Judy Wood.
She has figured out that if you dropped a billiard ball in a vacuum from the top of the WTC towers, it will use 9.22 seconds down to the ground.
Then let it not possible that 110 floors collapsing just as fast (9-11 seconds, according to NIST) as the gravitational energy will be used to pulverize concrete, hurling the debris from adjacent buildings and smash on the floor floor in the fall.
Wood expects that the shorter the time it would take for each floor to collapse in the next, like dominoes, would have been 96.7 seconds, more than a half minute.
January Hundseid commenting Woods analysis as follows:
- It is so well illustrated by calculations and pictures that should lead to new official assessments of the collapse of the towers. What we ask for is an even more thorough analysis than that Wood did. The entire building must be analyzed using the computer programs.
Explosives
If the energy is used to pulverize the floors above and beyond, as this picture shows, not the same power while accelerating down the building, resonating Judy Wood.
How then could the twin towers collapse so quickly?
- It must have been used explosives down the floor, I think Jan and Ove Hundseid.
When they see television footage of the towers in slow motion, add the brand to small explosions that go horizontally from the walls far below and before the collapse at this level.
- Some say this is the air being pushed out, but I think it is similar such explosions as seen under a controlled demolition, "says Ove.
- We have also seen footage of the firefighters who helped after the attacks. Both they and the reporters said that they heard several explosions in the basements of the towers. Television footage from the lobby of one tower shows that everything was blown out, which can be difficult because the plane hit 80 floors higher up, "said Jan.
Building 7
In the case of WTC Building 7, which collapsed at. 17.20 the same day, according Hundseid brothers that there is no doubt that the collapse was a controlled demolition.
- It collapsed completely symmetrical at 6.5 seconds. The laws of nature do not allow that this could have happened without the help of explosives.
- But who shall have failed to bring in as much as the dynamite needed to blow up these buildings?
Jan and Ove Hundseid have no answer for this. They have just one wish:
- That there must be a new investigation, so 11/9-Sannhetsbevegelsen want.
Open letter
Friday 16 November they saw a notice in Stavanger Aftenblad that the newspaper's Good Weekend supplements would contain an article on 11 September attacks. They had a couple of months working on authoring a letter with a number of internet links and create 27 sets of copies of two DVDs to attach.
The letter sums up what the media has reported on events before and after 11 September 2001 and urges recipients to ask critical questions.
- I said to Ove that now we have only sent out what we have worked with.
So they sent two engineers an open letter to all the Norwegian Storting, the prime minister, defense minister and foreign minister, as well as several media.
- What kind of response did you?
- Very small. Progress Party Member of Parliament Ulf Erik Knudsen asked us to stop sending him such a spray. He suggested that we make contact with NTH to refund tuition, "said Jan, looking for given his brother.
- Commenting on corporation was asked if it is "time to get conspiratorial?" No, my answer is, but it is time to ask for the facts, "said Jan.
- For those who want to familiarize themselves with the collapse of WTC 1, 2 and 7, I recommend the documentary 911 Mysteries Part 1: Demolition as can be seen on video.google.com end Ove and adds:
- If the official explanation is correct, the standard for high-rise buildings must be changed.
There have not yet heard any demand.
Ber politikerne spørre hva som egentlig skjedde 11. september - Stavanger Aftenblad
