MastanKhan
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Hi Asim,
What MK means is that it is not necessary for the entire blueprints to be given to be called 'help'. Smart people can figure out what to do & how to make it work if a little is given to them. The Europeans gave Pakistan just enough and the Pakistani establishment ensured that the bomb is made.
You can defeat Elmo knowing little boxing since she does not know boxing. If Elmo was a champion then you stand no chance. Is it established that Pak nuke program is the most sophisticated? No. It is good enough to enable what you label as deterrence. That is all that was given. It is upto the respective country to do whatever with what is given. How much they can do depends on a lot of factors.
Why do you think that China and India are struggling with aircraft turbines? Because nobody gave us anything of worth and we are not capable enough of doing so independently. China has invested so much in jet engines and yet their tech is still not of production standards.
The Americans, Russians got help from German scientists after WW2. Initial impetus is sometimes very important for rapid development.
Thank you,
It always boils down to the fighter aircraft engine analogy----why is russia still 10-20 years behind the u s and china 20-30 years behind the u s---. What is the steps that they were watching of the boxer---were a deception---like in case of compressor blades in he chinese engines---just can't figure out the right composition.
Or---no disrespect---case in point the tank diesel engine that india was trying to manufacture with all the german blue prints---the end result---not even half the horse power---. Why---there is more to it than just a mere copy.
Pakistan got all the help that it could during its nuclear program---you young pakistanis need to look at the end result---you have the end product---there must be a reason---the biggest reason---there were others who helped you---no man is island by himself---.
Be grateful---be thankful---for big favours and for small favours---be grateful even if they reject you---for it makes you stronger---for it strengthens your resolve. Look at the brighter side and take it with a smile and give it back with a smile as well---make people like you and befriend them---because friends do things for friends---that is what happened in the 60's and 70's---our phd's physics students doing their phd's in europe and the u s had developed great friendships during their period of education and work related training.
All the pakistani scientists getting their phd's in the u s were working at actual nuc reactors---my uncle did in georgia. First hand experience---the americans if they liked you gave you all the knowledge---the americans liked the paks at that time---every where in the world pak scientists were very much liked---it was after the 1965 war--pak had their tales up in the air----.
All of you kids are assuming what did not happen----but what I am talking about is of my personal experience---do you people want me to lie to you to satisfy your egos---what I saw and what I heard---I am putting it in words---.
But when I was younger----just like you---as young as you guys---and you too ASIM---just like you people are being an as-s hole to me---in a similiar manner I was a bigger as-s hole to my uncle at that time---many a times I humiliated that man---because my young pakistani ego could not be restrained---just like your---but yours does not come close.
Dream on children---dream on.