CIA Supporting Terror Inside Pakistan

[F-16_Falcon]

Because they are spineless, & the government is on the payroll of the Americans. Simple as.

Do you say that all of Pakistan is on american payroll. you forget that there are people like imran khan , he will to fight against all evil.

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

at the original topic...

tell us something new duh...

 

[tallboy123]

Mukti Bahini, LTTE, TELO?

My questions so many bomb blast has occured in pakistan in past 5 years...1000's have died ,because of TTP...But there is NO EVIDENCE against India.....

And Mukthi bahini,Ltte,telo etc etc vagera are not bombing pakistan and how did u bring that in ur reply???
Answer to my point...

 

[DV RULES]

My questions so many bomb blast has occured in pakistan in past 5 years...1000's have died ,because of TTP...But there is NO EVIDENCE against India.....

And Mukthi bahini,Ltte,telo etc etc vagera are not bombing pakistan and how did u bring that in ur reply???
Answer to my point...

Check thread titled as "Pakistan warned, India is playing with fire" you can find proofs & answers of your questions. Lot of material you can find in proof by checking PDF threads in Pakistan war & geopolitical issues.

 

[Icarus]

Are you talking to me?

No, my post was with reference to the opening post of the thread. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[mikkix]

CIA Supporting Terror Inside Pakistan
Ahmed Quraishi.com


PPP’s History of Undermining ISI

The whole scenario became very grim as the Government appeared to have succumbed to American pressure to cut the ISI to size and make it a carpet lion. It was in this backdrop that a notification was issued in mysterious circumstances placing the ISI under the Interior Ministry; the notification was withdrawn the same day when the move backfired. It is no coincidence that during the two stints of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto as Prime Minister, a perception developed that the PPP undermined the effectiveness of the ISI. That perception was also based on facts. On the instructions of the BB Government, Lt. Gen. Javed Ashraf Qazi, the then DG ISI, purged 125 officers of the Agency [from the ranks of Major General to Colonel] who were identified to be “rogue elements” by the CIA. Now there is a strong perception that the present leadership is not presenting the interests and concerns of the state of Pakistan to its ‘Americans friends’ and is just raising issues in a casual manner. Perhaps that was the reason that the Army leadership had to make unusual public remarks in a press release, issued by the ISPR after the Corps Commanders meeting in October 2009, expressing serious concern over the Kerry-Lugar Bill saying that certain of its clauses were intrusive and against the national interests and were thus unacceptable. The Presidential spokesman Farhatullah Babar snubbed the Pakistan Army accusing it of ‘crossing the line’ bringing the differences into the open setting a new precedent and further undermining the state of Pakistan.

the bolded part is very discouraging,
it seems that ISI has used by the CIA so many times.
it also shows how dirty our ISI personnels when they deals to CIA
it states that ISI can sometime work as a client agency
Hopeless situation for us.

 

[humanfirst]

Just so that you know, it was an American drone who got Baitullah Mehsud, supposedly killed Hakimullah Mehsud, so that much for "American drones never hit TTP".
Secondly, Maulvi Omar(Bajaur) is in Pakistani custody, so is Muslim Khan two of the biggest of the big in the TTP, so that much for American helis airlift TTP leadership banter.
Which leaves your thread full of conspiracy theories and hot air.

Kakgeta you are one of the few serving pak army officers in this forum,so u know better than any of us internet warriors.Do you think cia is supporting ttp against pak army ?If yes why is pak army still cooperating with USA instead of publicly blaming them for playing double game?

 

[Ahmad]

^^^kajgeta is one of the few sane/balanced people here.

 

[Icarus]

Kakgeta you are one of the few serving pak army officers in this forum,so u know better than any of us internet warriors.Do you think cia is supporting ttp against pak army ?If yes why is pak army still cooperating with USA instead of publicly blaming them for playing double game?

Firstly, I would like to clarify that I am not an officer of the Pakistan Army, I am an intelligence guy(Civilian, but which means most of my work is associated with the military) a professor and member of various think-tanks but......Alas ! an Army man, I am not.......sigh........
Anyways, if you still think that my thoughts on this issue would be relevant then I must say no, I do not think that America is involved in supporting the TTP against Pakistan. You would be surprised to know that in Bajaur, we found more evidence leading to Iran and some oil rich Arab tycoons than we did to America, Israel and even INDIA combined. USA is not playing a double game and neither is Pakistan, the problem is the trust deficit between the two countries which no one seems to give a flying fu** about. It is this trust deficit along with psychos like Hameed Gul and Col. Imam(late) that is proving most damaging to both the Pakistan and American military's drive against the Taliban. If you really want to know who's playing the double game, it's our religious political parties, Jamaat and JUI-F are neck deep in terrorist funding.
My two cents, feel free to disagree.........

 

[@nline]

My questions so many bomb blast has occured in pakistan in past 5 years...1000's have died ,because of TTP...But there is NO EVIDENCE against India.....

And Mukthi bahini,Ltte,telo etc etc vagera are not bombing pakistan and how did u bring that in ur reply???
Answer to my point...

Do you remember what happened in india 1984?

Tum loag itne doodh ke dhole nahi jitne bante ho. Got it!

 

[Nothing]

Firstly, I would like to clarify that I am not an officer of the Pakistan Army, I am an intelligence guy(Civilian, but which means most of my work is associated with the military) a professor and member of various think-tanks but......Alas ! an Army man, I am not.......sigh........
Anyways, if you still think that my thoughts on this issue would be relevant then I must say no, I do not think that America is involved in supporting the TTP against Pakistan. You would be surprised to know that in Bajaur, we found more evidence leading to Iran and some oil rich Arab tycoons than we did to America, Israel and even INDIA combined. USA is not playing a double game and neither is Pakistan, the problem is the trust deficit between the two countries which no one seems to give a flying fu** about. It is this trust deficit along with psychos like Hameed Gul and Col. Imam(late) that is proving most damaging to both the Pakistan and American military's drive against the Taliban. If you really want to know who's playing the double game, it's our religious political parties, Jamaat and JUI-F are neck deep in terrorist funding.
My two cents, feel free to disagree.........

It is very difficult to digest that Iran is supporting TTP along with Arab countries.(Iran and Arab world don't share good relation) . Pakistan is good friend on Iran. Again Pakistan is always yes daddy kind of son for Arab countries. Then why they want to create problems for it. Again for Arab countries ... by doing this they are creating negative image of Islam somehow.. If they want to spread Islam there are many others ways like funding educational and putting their own agenda into textbooks.. I don't think so GOP will have any big trouble with this ..

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Do you say that all of Pakistan is on american payroll. you forget that there are people like imran khan , he will to fight against all evil.

I've heard him since long time ago, but yet don't know much about his personal background.

It seems that he is really popular among the Pakistani members.

Is he a ultra anti-corruption reformist?

Will he desire to make Pakistan a more independent state to free from the grip of the West?

If so, he will indeed become a great leader, even China needs more inspiritional people like him!!!

 

[Nothing]

I've heard him since long time ago, but yet don't know much about his personal background.

It seems that he is really popular among the Pakistani members.

Is he a ultra anti-corruption reformist?

Will he desire to make Pakistan a more independent state to free from the grip of the West?

If so, he will indeed become a great leader, even China needs more inspiritional people like him!!!

Off topic ... you guys have one of the best incorruptible leadership right now...
I wish we get some one like oyurs

 

[Icarus]

It is very difficult to digest that Iran is supporting TTP along with Arab countries.(Iran and Arab world don't share good relation) . Pakistan is good friend on Iran. Again Pakistan is always yes daddy kind of son for Arab countries. Then why they want to create problems for it. Again for Arab countries ... by doing this they are creating negative image of Islam somehow.. If they want to spread Islam there are many others ways like funding educational and putting their own agenda into textbooks.. I don't think so GOP will have any big trouble with this ..

You didn't read my post carefully so let me point out that some Arab Sheikhs are supporting them and not any Arab state. We had some intercepts as well where these Sheikhs say that the money they pump into the TTP is their Zakat(Islamic Tax) or Hadiya(Islamic Donation) for Jihad. I call it bullshit because last time I was targeted in a suicide attack, 15 people died, all were muslims. Same goes for all other such attacks, even if the victims are non-muslims, they are innocents and according to Islam: "He who kills an innocent is as if he has murdered all of mankind" do notice that it does not specify that the victim belong to any certain faith.
As for Iran, it's not a full time incentive and there have been attacks on Shias in Pakistan which means that Iran is definitely not in the driving seat, I suppose it is just a small minority within the govt that thinks that this is also Holy War, possibly even to punish Pakistan for supporting the USA. We all know that Iran and the USA haven't actually been the best of friends since the Shah was deposed.

 

[Malik Usman]

Could be true, what are they planning to achieve? RAW is finaly getting credits for thing they have not done.

RAW is not getting credit things it didn't did..............but RAW did lots of things but u will never accept.