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Exclusive: CIA Attacker Driven in From Pakistan
Suicide Bomber Was a Regular CIA Informant, Had Been to Chapman Base Multiple Times
By ALEEM AGHA and NICK SCHIFRIN

KABUL, Afghanistan, Jan. 2, 2010—

The suicide bomber who killed at least six Central Intelligence Agency officers in a base along the Afghan-Pakistan border on Wednesday was a regular CIA informant who had visited the same base multiple times in the past [ so the US has links with extermists in Pakistan this much is confirmed ] , according to someone close to the base's security director.

The informant was a Pakistani and a member of the Wazir tribe from the Pakistani tribal area North Waziristan , according to the same source. The base security director, an Afghan named Arghawan, would pick up the informant at the Ghulam Khan border crossing and drive him about two hours into Forward Operating Base Chapman, from where the CIA operates. [ I suppose thats why the US doesnt want the borders sealed and is against mining/fencing ? ]

Because he was with Arghawan, the informant was not searched, the source says. Arghawan also died in the attack.

The story seems to corroborate a claim by the Taliban on the Pakistani side of the border that they had turned a CIA asset into a double agent and sent him to kill the officers in the base, located in the eastern Afghan province of Khost.

The infiltration into the heart of the CIA's operation in eastern Afghanistan deals a strong blow to the agency's ability to fight Taliban and al Qaeda, former intelligence officials say, and will make the agency reconsider how it recruits Pakistani and Afghan informants. [ I'll post a memo from the past highlighting the role of US Embassies/Consultate in helping informants]

The officers who were killed in the attack were at the heart of the United States' effort against senior members of al Qaeda and the Taliban, former intelligence officials say. They collected intelligence on the militant commanders living on both sides of the border and helped run paramilitary campaigns that tired to kill those commanders, including the drone program that has killed a dozen senior al Qaeda with missiles fired from unpiloted aircraft.

The former intelligence officials all say the CIA will be able to replace those who were killed, but the officials acknowledge the attack killed decades of knowledge held by some of the agency's most informed experts on the region, the Taliban and al Qaeda. It also killed at least one officer who had been part of the agency's initial hunt for Osama bin Laden in the mid-1990s.

Suicide Attack Likely Revenge for Drone Attacks on Taliban Leaders

"This is a tremendous loss for the agency," says Michael Scheuer, a former CIA analyst who led the bin Laden unit. "The agency is a relatively small organization, and its expertise in al Qaeda is even a smaller subset of that overall group."

At least 13 officers gathered in the base's gym to talk with the informant, suggesting he was highly valued. His prior visits to the base and his ability to get so close to so many officers also suggests that he had already provided the agency with valuable intelligence that had proven successful, former intelligence officials say.

That information was most likely linked with the CIA's drone program on the Pakistani side of the border. The Taliban in Pakistan claimed in a call to The Associated Press that the informant had called them and offered to become a turncoat. They said the attack was revenge for the drone attacks that have killed multiple senior Taliban leaders.

"The war that is going on between the CIA and the bad guys in this part of the world is a real war," says Tim Weiner, author of "Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA." "The CIA is targeting them with missiles fired by drone aircraft and they are taking their revenge in the way they know best -- which is to kill the people who are trying to kill them. ... This attack is one of the consequences of using targeted killing as a weapon of war."

The drone program relies on informants who can cross the border easily, in parts CIA officers cannot. The CIA is wary of making major trips into Pakistan for fear of the repercussions if officers were caught or killed there. Informants -- especially Pakistani informants from the Waziri or Mehsud tribe -- are the most valuable assets for the CIA in finding senior al Qaeda and Taliban militants who are targeted by the drone program.

"To go after the Taliban and the Haqqani network on the Pakistani side of the border, the United States relies almost exclusively on its predator drones. But those predator drones require agents on the ground to direct them, to say, 'this is where you should be looking,'" says Richard Clarke, the Bush administration's counter-terrorism czar until 2003 and an ABC News consultant. "The CIA does that in support of the military, and without their intelligence, we really have very little way of affecting what's going on on the Pakistani side of the border."

New Methods to Recruit Informants in Afghanistan

The most likely Taliban group to have perpetrated the attack is the one led by Sirajuddin Haqqani, the son of Jalaluddin Haqqani, one of the CIA's most important assets when the agency was helping fund the Afghan mujahedeen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. The Haqqanis have been running militant operations for 30 years and have recently become perhaps the most lethal commanders targeting U.S. troops in Afghanistan. They are based in North Waziristan but control large parts of Khost and other provinces in eastern Afghanistan as well.

The Haqqanis have also kidnapped the only known American soldier in enemy custody -- PFC Bowe Bergdahl -- according to a senior NATO official. Since Bergdahl was kidnapped in late June, the official says the Haqqanis "have been getting pounded" and a "great many of their mid to senior leaders have been captured and/or killed."

The infiltration into the CIA base suggests an extremely high level of sophistication, even for a network that has a huge reach across the area.

"The Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Cubans during the Cold War were able to run double agents against the CIA very successfully," says Clarke. "But for a non-nation state to be able to do this -- for the Haqqani network of the Taliban to be able to do this -- represents a huge increase in the sophistication of the enemy."

Clarke and other former intelligence officials predict the CIA in Afghanistan will be forced to question who they can trust and change their methods in how they find informants.

"Because of this attack, the CIA will be very, very careful about who it trusts, how it vets its agents, how it searches its agents," Clarke says. "And this will mean that in the future, it will be much more difficult for CIA to operate in the field because of probably new security roles affecting what they do."

More Victims in Suicide Bomber Attack Identified

The only victim of the attack who has been publicly identified is 37-year-old Harold Brown Jr., a father of three. The base chief, a woman in her 30s, was also killed, according to current and former intelligence officials. She is believed to have been focused on al Qaeda since before 9/11. A former U.S. official says a second woman was also killed in the attack, and that both women had "considerable counterintelligence experience."

The attack also killed Captain Al Shareef Ali bin Zeid, a member of the Jordanian spy agency Dairat al-Mukhabarat al-Ammah
, according to people who have spoken with bin Zeid's family. The Jordanian military released a statement acknowledging bin Zeid had been killed in Afghanistan, but did not mention he was working with the CIA.

The ability for the CIA to replace the officers and institutional knowledge taken away by the attack will help decide the war in Afghanistan, former intelligence officials argue.

CIA historian Tim Wiener says, "The war we are in is going to be won or lost by the quality of intelligence the CIA can gather in the field."

ABC News' Kirit Radia and Nadine Shubailat contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2010 ABC News Internet Ventures

ABC News Exclusive: CIA Attacker Driven in From Pakistan
 
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The following is and old memo from 1950 which talks about 'training' of two selected Pakistani candidates and the need to provide 'cover' for them.



Shutting down the foreign embassies can go a long way in cutting down terrorism in Pakistan.

Under the diplomatic covers these entities are involved the most vile acts against the state.

Shutting them down will also mean that tunrcoats and traitors will have a hard time selling them selves!
 
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It was clear by the nature of access to the bomber that it is inside job.
In other thread S2 refused to accept it.
I also believe very strongly that a bunch of armed men cannot fight with any professional army... unless they have very well established intelligence connections, objectives, training, facilitation in boarding lodging, funds and equipment available.
The TTP is a clasic example of such terrorist operations which has enormous facilitation and intelligence inside Pakistan. If i may say also judicial and political support....
remember release of TTP captives (captured in Swat by P.Musharaf) by new govt. and release of convicted terrorists from lal mosque by iftikhar ch.
 
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for those who still dont know where exactly CIA is based in Pakistan and running covert ops from, apart from major cities

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=27.84861,65.15046&spn=0.004829,0.01369&t=h&z=17

and the worst thing is that no Pakistani can go there as entry is prohibited within 5miles radius and their snipers covering this facility, some reliable sources say XE/Blackwater is also based and operates from this facility and we all know that CIA has an operational Drones airbase nearby

and one more thing, not even Rehman Malik can go there and he doesnt know how to use a computer like most british cabbies, thats why he keep denying the existance of CIA and XE in Pakistan
 
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One thing that bothers me is, that the suicide attacker was picked up by the Afghan base chief, did they hug when they met, as per Islamic and local traditions, as he was regular guy over the camp, he must be knowing people who must have met him, anyone of them would have given a hug when doing AoA. Ok lets leave this angle.

He must be wearing a powerful explosive vest with atleast 10 kilo or so explosives to have killed such large number of people, during his whole time of journey and then entering the camp and meeting people and going into the gym to meet the top CIA operatives, not a single one among soooooo many experts detected something odd on his body or no suspicion got raised ???

Unbelievable.

The real story is something else, but to cover their incompetency and shift the blame on the Taliban on this side of the body, this cover up story got told.
 
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Its possible that instead of a 'sucide vest' the guy used a 'sucide underwear'

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

RAWALPINDI: Would-be suicide bombers could be using explosives “underwear briefs” rather than explosives jackets to evade “conservative” body searches, sources said on Wednesday.

Sihala Police College forensic lab sources told Daily Times that the study of recent suicide attacks showed that suicide bombers used “explosives-laden” under-garments, briefs in particular, to carry out the attacks.

The sources said that the explosives could weigh between five kilogrammes to seven kilogrammes, made deadly by adding glass splinters, metal ball bearings and bullets. The law enforcers normally search upper body parts sparing the “privates”, the sources said, hence assailants are increasingly using the lower body parts to dodge the searches. The sources said that forensic experts were trying to devise methods to pre-empt suicide bombing. The experts have achieved successes in “Post Bombing Investigation,” the sources said, adding that resources are sharpening “Pre Bombing Investigation” techniques.
 
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for those who still dont know where exactly CIA is based in Pakistan and running covert ops from, apart from major cities

Google Maps

and the worst thing is that no Pakistani can go there as entry is prohibited within 5miles radius and their snipers covering this facility, some reliable sources say XE/Blackwater is also operates from this facility and CIA has an operational Drones airbase nearby

and one more thing, not even Rehman Malik can go there and he doesnt know how to use a computer like most british cabbies, thats why he keep denying the existance of CIA and XE in Pakistan

Doesnt this make one wonder WHY the TTP and other terrorists thugs have never even TRIED to attack this facility ?!?! This along with Jacobabad airbase are the 'garh' of CIA activities in Pakistan.

These are well established facts , verifyable easily; however the terrorists are more focused on targetting Pakistan's security aparatus, sometimes attacking Pakistan Atomic Energy Comission people , some time High Ranking Army officers, soetimes against our troops in Kashmir , some times markets

Where as such huges bulls eye ( from a 'percieved' terrorist point of view ) have been left alone ?!?! :what:
 
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One thing that bothers me is, that the suicide attacker was picked up by the Afghan base chief, did they hug when they met, as per Islamic and local traditions, as he was regular guy over the camp, he must be knowing people who must have met him, anyone of them would have given a hug when doing AoA. Ok lets leave this angle.

He must be wearing a powerful explosive vest with atleast 10 kilo or so explosives to have killed such large number of people, during his whole time of journey and then entering the camp and meeting people and going into the gym to meet the top CIA operatives, not a single one among soooooo many experts detected something odd on his body or no suspicion got raised ???

Unbelievable.

The real story is something else, but to cover their incompetency and shift the blame on the Taliban on this side of the body, this cover up story got told.
You have a point here; I am from the same area, and when we hug, it is not really ‘close’ a hug. It is like your shoulders and arms come into contact not even the torso. Additionally, it is possible that he had wrapped the explosive below his belly, or between the legs, in which case, it would be almost impossible to notice. At any rate, it is a complete failure of security. Or when Allah wants something to happen, it happens and all the technologies/security measures prove useless. The Afghans are fighting a war against an occupier and oppressor, and I have no doubt in my mind that Allah’s support is with them as he is always on the side of the oppressed.
 
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You have a point here; I am from the same area, and when we hug, it is not really ‘close’ a hug. It is like your shoulders and arms come into contact not even the torso. Additionally, it is possible that he had wrapped the explosive below his belly, or between the legs, in which case, it would be almost impossible to notice. At any rate, it is a complete failure of security. Or when Allah wants something to happen, it happens and all the technologies/security measures prove useless. The Afghans are fighting a war against an occupier and oppressor, and I have no doubt in my mind that Allah’s support is with them as he is always on the side of the oppressed.

A very plausible explanation Sir, but still killing of so many guys at the same time, means something heavy was used, which isn't so easily concealable.

And also totally agree on the 2nd part, no doubt about that.
 
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"In other thread S2 refused to accept it."

Batman, I don't know if that's true. Could you link the post where I do so, please?

Thanks.:usflag:
 
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I think it is failure of social startegy of Gen McChrystal to gain victory in Afghanistan now General will review his social strategy .

Can you make lions your friend:lol:
 
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Not interested in any american's comment,
Now should Pakistan Air Force extend its air strikes across the border..time is running out..
 
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Not interested in any american's comment,
Now should Pakistan Air Force extend its air strikes across the border..time is running out..

Personally, i think we should start doing that rather should have done long time ago. As US forces can't take care of the taliban on that side of the border, so i believe the moment we get an armed UAV, such operations should get started and recon drones should be sent and targets identified and PAF aircrafts should bomb those training camps and Internally Displaced Terrorist Camps being run by Afghan warlords under the watchful eyes of the US administration. I think even if we place artillery guns close to the border, they can also take good care of these taliban bases and camps.
 
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"...should bomb those training camps and Internally Displaced Terrorist Camps being run by Afghan warlords under the watchful eyes of the US administration..."

Taimikhan, you don't seem to understand. You've maintained sanctuaries for the enemies of over forty nations inside Afghanistan as part of the U.N. stabilization mandate. From those sanctuaries, the afghan taliban have made war upon the afghan people, ISAF, NGOs, correspondents, and U.N. officials. They've all died at the hands of the men whom Pakistan has protected since their ouster from Afghanistan.

There are no greater drug or warlords than the afghan taliban. Opium in Afghanistan is worst in the lands where they've had free run and have long been their traditional stronghold-Helmand and Kandahar. They set their own cultivation records while in power and only eradicated opium when they realized how desperately they were isolated.

You've long known this information but persist in delusion. About time you think through the implications of sanctuary and proxy warfare and why it's so heinous.

You also suffer from the belief that these bombings suffered by Pakistan are foreign directed. It pacifies your angst about being opposed to the rest of mankind to feel victimized.

Yet the rest of mankind sees NOTHING in Afghanistan. Nothing. How is this? So many countries besides America? Your tribals were infected by the men whom you host. Plain and simple. Those are Pakistani muslims killing Pakistani muslims and you best come to grips with that fact.

Why do I know so? Taimikhan, you send fine tribal Pakistani sons under the direction of your own citizens-Maulvi Nazir and Hafez Gul Bahadur to kill muslim Afghans all the time. How can they be good muslim men and make war on the afghan people as they do? If they can do so then surely others from the same region wishing that the Pakistani people experience the same pleasures as the afghan people might also do so. Baitullah Mehsud believed so. He travelled to Afghanistan five times to help implement sharia.

He only wished the same for you.

You know the UNAMA data which shows that nearly 60% of all afghans in this war die at the hands of the afghan taliban, correct? You know that about 60% of those die by taliban IEDs, correct? That adds up to about 40% of all afghan deaths caused by taliban IEDs.

Afghan taliban IEDs from the men whom you protect. There are claims that the taliban control 90% of Afghanistan. What nonsense! You've seen the ICOS map, correct?

Here, let me remind you-

ICOS Map-Afghanistan Jan-Sept. 2009

80%. But when we read the legend, we learn that isn't 80% CONTROL. No, it defines the areas that have experience one lethal or non-lethal insurgent attack per week. That's the worst areas and goes down from there.

If we were to apply the same standard to Peshawar, we'd say the taliban control it now. Is that true? Of course not. Neither is the urban myth so commonly spewed here about Afghanistan any more true.

Sadly, most won't consider even this obvious and grave misunderstanding of the current situation. They prefer to believe that 90% of Afghanistan is under taliban control. It is the WISH of most here that the taliban come to past.

Pakistan is on a path to self-destruction and is so by its own hand. I hope for its sake that changes very soon. One of the worst ways for Pakistan to find salvation will come if the PAF launches airstrikes against Afghanistan.

That probably wouldn't be the smartest thing to do.

JMHO.

Thanks.:usflag:
 
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