christine fair got owned.article inside

[WaLeEdK2]

not at all true. You obviously won't admit it due to the denial factor.



It seems to have become a uncultured train among some Pak people such as yourself to lash out on Indians in general whenever it becomes impossible to defend your military's failures and especially when they get caught and exposed. It is a good thing that Christine Fair has unimpeachable credentials and has direct sources and decade of research inside Pakistan. So as much as you try to distract and insult Indians, you are all busted.



Whether you can comprehend or not, I am sure you can atleast READ? Just read what Christine Fair wrote. Deep State is not a new term and I was referring squarely to what she wrote which is what this thread is about. However much people like you deny it, she has made a complete exposure of your establishment dishonesty



@Hiptullah - simple. She wrote what she found first hand. If you even bother to read it you will realize she used direct ISI and military sources to find the facts and then exposed them.

When your establishment gets busted with such dishonesty and immorality, there is no need for anyone to resolrt to abuse - they do a great job of earning the titles themselves.



Well, admission is first step to cure. Unlike your fellow Pak establishment fanboys, I am glad to see you admit it.
I have no problem us giving you technology to help you fight terrorists, even aid. Where such exposure by Fair and others help is to make a better country out of Pakistan by curing the ills and failures of your establishment penchant for terrorism as state weapon.

First of all I was being sarcastic... Second I've lived under army rule unlike you. I think I know what the army can do and what it wants. So don't go lecturing Pakistanis on this lol. Indians are the one of last to lecture someone.

 

[Tiger Genie]

Tigergenie our military's existence make sure that Pakistan survives and her lower middle class and middle class should have a say in govt affairs run by industrialists and fuedals so it doesn't matter to general Pak populace and even to the world what any grumpy jurno rants about our military

If that is in total the expectations you have for your country and its people, it must be a paradise in Pakistan. Enjoy it. But remember such pacts with the devil always end in complete assimilation by the devil. BTW she is not a grumpy jurno ranting - Unlike most of the brainless, braindead and brainwashed Pak fanboys, she actually lived and researched in Pakistan for a decade+ and then exposed the military with sheer evidence.

Her credentials are as shoddy as they get. Indeed they might be impeccable for our Indian friends because anything Anti Pakistan is welcomed with open arms among our Indian friends, but if one is to look at her work objectively it is full of speculation and self opinion. Name me a single paper she has wrote or any claim that she has made that is not full of speculation? Wait you can't because there exists none. Her fanbase consists entirely of Indians, and in the US she barely has any traction and is not considered an expert when it comes to Pakistan.

Also, please edit your comment in regards to direct sources. She has no direct sources within Pakistan, most of her work can be found on conspiracy laden hate sites. You should Google the meaning of direct source.



So you're going to tell us what's good for us .

Maybe you forget, all of us Pakistanis on this board have lived in Pakistan all our lives. We know how our country works, and who is patriotic to the Nation. We don't need foreigners telling us how to live our lives. Most of us have family or friends that serving or have served in the Armed Forces. We know first hand how the Army operates. Don't insult us by pretending to be experts on our country, because you're not.

Her credential are not shoddy at all - you can look it up in any number of websites. A Phd from UChicago is the least of it.
About her sources - you should really read what she wrote so you will atleast know what her sources are. You will find that she spent years in Pakistan working very close and at times with direct officials of ISI.

Like most Pakistani cybernuts you are lettinng your visceral hatred and jealousy cloud your senses


You know what the funny thing is, their fanbase consists entirely of Indians. They are constantly called in India as experts on Pakistan. In their own native country they are at best considered 3rd Class Academics. While Tarek Fatah write for a Canadian tabloid, she does not even hold a full time academic position anywhere.

I can perfectly comprehend what Christine Fair has written or said.

And she exposed no one. She can whine and fool bharatis but world moves on caring little about it.

She has done more that. For example whenever somebody form Pakistan decides to come here trying to convince us of India's actions in Kashmir the first thing that happens is they are sat down and made to watch Christine Fair's speech and interviews on the subject (because Pakistanis seem unable to view these things on Youtube). Then we give the visitor a few minutes to recover, and send them off to eat or whatever else they do in DC or NYC or Disneyland. Yup, she has made it real easy for us.

 

[Tiger Genie]

First of all I was being sarcastic... Second I've lived under army rule unlike you. I think I know what the army can do and what it wants. So don't go lecturing Pakistanis on this lol. Indians are the one of last to lecture someone.

Because a half dozen of your fellow Pak people started quoting my remarks I may have missed your sarcasm. But it was remarkable to see none of them say anything other than how bad Indians are and nothing about the establishment that is screwing them.

At least you make a reference to living under army rule. So have most Pakistanis considering the regular coups. Frankly, living undert army rule is precisely what DISQUALIFIES you people to know what army can do or wants! don't you see that? You are merely pawns and when you turn sour you are lamb foor slaughter; you are allowed to know certain things, and not allowed to know anything more. For example, Youtube.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Because a half dozen of your fellow Pak people started quoting my remarks I may have missed your sarcasm. But it was remarkable to see none of them say anything other than how bad Indians are and nothing about the establishment that is screwing them.

At least you make a reference to living under army rule. So have most Pakistanis considering the regular coups. Frankly, living undert army rule is precisely what DISQUALIFIES you people to know what army can do or wants! don't you see that? You are merely pawns and when you turn sour you are lamb foor slaughter; you are allowed to know certain things, and not allowed to know anything more. For example, Youtube.

Lmao I could watch anything on YouTube. I was in Pakistan this summer. I could've watched anybody. Besides YouTube was banned not because of somebody as insignificant as her, but because it disrespected the prophet. And it wasn't even banned by the army lol. Next time you make allegations at least get your facts right. She HAS NO influence or power over anyone but a few Indians. That says a lot of her pathetic credibility.

 

[Tiger Genie]

STFU you bharti puppet. Stop trying to push this shit show down our throats. Your bharti country is pathetic in almost every scope of social, religious or economical factors. Who the **** are you trying to kid here, slum dog?

looks like you lost it. 'lOstpatriot' is more appropriate for you. BTW nobody including most Pakistanis do not believe Bharat is anymore pathetic than Pakistan in any of those dimensions. You should atleast watch your own TV where they lament about how backward your country and people are and wonder how India managed to advance. May be you now know the answer: it is your establishment that screwed you for their benefit!

 

[lastofthepatriots]

 

[Tiger Genie]

Lmao I could watch anything on YouTube. I was in Pakistan this summer. I could've watched anybody. Besides YouTube was banned not because of somebody as insignificant as her, but because it disrespected the prophet. Next time you make allegations at least get your facts right. She HAS NO influence or power over anyone but a few Indians. That says a lot of her pathetic credibility.

What else do you expect to be told? Anything any power-grabber or power grabbing agency in a muslim majority country finds uncomfortable, they immediately resort to banning it in the name of the prophet.

BTW I am not making ANY allegations. Simply showing you guys what she found and how she exposed the shenanigans which screwed Pakistan. Which is why people like this brigadier is frothing about!

 

[Tiger Genie]

LMAO this @Tiger Genie guy is fucking delusional...what a puppet. Lmao dance puppet.

funny - even when somebody like Fair comes and tries to save you sorry people with solid proof of how you are getting screwed, like lemmings you chose to jump.

@lastofthepatriots - here, this may actually help your condition.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18781411-fighting-to-the-end

 

[Tiger Genie]

@lastofthepatriots - now you are really unhinged. Go read what she wrote. It will help you

 

[lastofthepatriots]

@lastofthepatriots - now you are really unhinged. Go read what she wrote. It will help you

LOL, why don't you just look at the pictures I posted of shining India? HAHAHAHA!

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Funny while she's bashing the army Pak army is being praised

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1203999...sh-general-praises-pakistans-inspiring-gains/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1113548...armys-contributions-regional-peace-stability/


http://tribune.com.pk/story/1135521/john-mccain-lauds-pakistans-role-afghan-reconciliation-process/

http://m.firstpost.com/world/italia...istani-counterpart-india-worried-2369728.html

Here's the Czech Republic wanting Pakistan army to train them

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.value...s-pakistan-to-train-troops/amp/?client=safari

But again who gives a shit about a lonely insignificant voice whistling in the wind?

 

[Mentee]

If that is in total the expectations you have for your country and its people, it must be a paradise in Pakistan.

By all indicators Pakistan is a heaven vis a vis other south Asian countries

Enjoy it.

Mera mitha Pakistan

But remember such pacts with the devil always end in complete assimilation by the devil.

You are confusing Indian military with that of the Pak, our don't kill and blind protesting kids women and men and had never used rape as a strategic tool to suppress its own people.


infact in prime minister Bhutto's era when police couldn't --- ,our generals even refused to handle a political protest let alone firing at its own nationals indiscriminately, reason?

The overwhelming majority of Pak military officers hail from the lower middle and middle class unlike Indian military , where the officer cadre is mainly composed of high cast Brahmins and khastrias

BTW she is not a grumpy jurno ranting - Unlike most of the brainless, braindead and brainwashed Pak fanboys, she actually lived and researched in Pakistan for a decade+ and then exposed the military with sheer evidence.

Who gives a phucki We aren't hyper nationalist scumbags like our eastern neighbors. Indian media seems like a sissy in front of our press which is way more callous and ruthless when it comes to criticizing govt institution including the military, even by the u.s standards.

no one here throws black ink or beat any army critic in front of police. Besides, no religious organization dares to threaten or lynch anyone for speaking out against the military or for inviting any Indian actor like the RSS and bajrangdal goons ------

As for your devil pacts and other bla bla, All Militaries around the world indulge in these practices ---
And our is by far the most disciplined, battle hardened, professional and honest ---

 

[Areesh]

She has done more that. For example whenever somebody form Pakistan decides to come here trying to convince us of India's actions in Kashmir the first thing that happens is they are sat down and made to watch Christine Fair's speech and interviews on the subject (because Pakistanis seem unable to view these things on Youtube). Then we give the visitor a few minutes to recover, and send them off to eat or whatever else they do in DC or NYC or Disneyland. Yup, she has made it real easy for us.

That shows how pathetic situation is for you. A non Indian b!tch has to defend you in America while on ground in IOK you struggle to bring normalcy for f*cking months. A normalcy that is short lived and is meant to work for a few days or weeks.

I pity you kid.

 

[Isotope]

If that's what you meant to say, why don't you say so? As is customary among many of you, instead of admitting you made a mistake you resort to deflection '...einstein et al'. Take responsibility for your mistakes or Pak will never get out of the hole it has dug for itself!

You just demonstrated why your military establishment is able to get away with decades of fraud and failures and still manage to hold >third of your economy, 50% of your national ill-repute and 100% of your children's future to ransom. Instead of reading, understanding and reacting to how she exposed your establishment's shenanigans for which you should be thanking her, you want to laugh? Oysters to walrus!

Before you waste even a second on what this looser writer is saying about Pakistan Army. First go and tell your own Indian Army who is supposed to protect its people, not to rape its own citizens and kill 100s of them. Secondly, go and worry about all open shit holes in your nation. Go and ensure success in eradication of open shitting under Sawach Bharat (Clean The smelly Hindu ) campaign, as the tea boy claims construction of about nine million in one year against a target of about 375 million toilets in rural areas. The toilet, that is nothing more than a latrine-seat, covered with discarded empty rice and wheat sack, your natives in India are literally worshiping those newly constructed toilets instead of using them. They are covering the toilet seats and decorating with garlands and mango leaves and then they wait with a green ribbon for the arrival of a lucky dog to come to inaugurate the toilet. Go and teach the people in rural India who still believe it’s an unhygienic and unholy practice to have a toilet within house premises, many others don’t know how to use and why to use toilets. Your India is literally drowning in its own shit and any tourist who goes there will tell you. Get your priorities straight and leave your hate for PA for some other time as Pakistani nation is happy with its army and could care less about your PA hating agenda. PA has kept your nation 7 times it's size at bay and will continue to keep you at bay. Eat your heart out.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Good to know the b!tch got owned. Burn b!tch whilst we keep developing CPEC with our friend China. Nothing anyone can do about it. I am absolutely enjoy the CPEC pain these people are experiencing.