Christian couple killed for 'desecrating Holy Quran' near Lahore: police

[notsuperstitious]

A sectarian incident happens in Lahore, the Chief Minister orders immediate inquiry. Indians jumping up and down.
I mean, please enlighten us, as how many have been prosecuted/inquired for their involvement in the slaughter of thousands of Muslims in the Native state of the current PM of India? That too 12 years later?

No need to post offtopic and make false claims. First of all thousands of muslims were not killed, about 900 muslims and about 300 hindus. And google and find out that hundreds have been convicted and sent to jail, some even to death.

Thank you and back to topic now.

Question is why the Christians in Pakistan starting to do Blasphemy ??
do any Pakistani say anything bad to Jesus ?? pbuh ...

Its debatable whether christians commit blasphemy, but muslims certainly do it because they openly say in pakistan that jesus was not son of god - that is blasphemy as per core christian beliefs.

Question is is there a need to get angry let alone kill someone for having different pure beliefs that have no proof or historical accuracy???

 

[Donatello]

5,000 Hindus migrating to India every year, NA told - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

And there are thousands of Indians desperate enough to migrate to the west in search of better life......isn't immigration something independent of the country? You have a right to do what's best for you and your family.

These Hindus are primarily from low income households, who when arrive in India will find that life isn't all green pastures and as such migrating to the only 'Hindu' nation makes sense. Just like thousands of Muslims from South Asia/far east go to GCC to live because they find it 'more accepting due to Islamic values' compared to the west.

 

[Hyperion]

Shame on us as a nation........ pathetic barbaric people we have become......... lanat on the constitution of Pakistan and the justice system that allows such subhumans to walk free.......

 

[IPL5]

And there are thousands of Indians desperate enough to migrate to the west in search of better life......isn't immigration something independent of the country? You have a right to do what's best for you and your family.

These Hindus are primarily from low income households, who when arrive in India will find that life isn't all green pastures and as such migrating to the only 'Hindu' nation makes sense. Just like thousands of Muslims from South Asia/far east go to GCC to live because they find it 'more accepting due to Islamic values' compared to the west.

http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/unhcr108.pdf

 

[Bombaywalla]

Just like thousands of Muslims from South Asia/far east go to GCC to live because they find it 'more accepting due to Islamic values' compared to the west.

i wonder what percentage of Indian Muslims move to the horrendous gulf and saudi arabia just because "they find it more accepting due to Islamic values". If it were all about religion for India's Muslims, they'd be better off flocking over to neighbouring Pakistan instead of the crappy peninsula. It's all about the money and nothing else.

 

[Donatello]

No need to post offtopic and make false claims. First of all thousands of muslims were not killed, about 900 muslims and about 300 hindus. And google and find out that hundreds have been convicted and sent to jail, some even to death.

Thank you and back to topic now.

Yea man, you are right. 10 people were killed, 2 were Muslims and 8 were Hindus.


How about i tell you, that the son of one of the senior commissioner in Ahmadabad at the time, was my batch mate in UK? And we were pretty good friends, and he described the horror he saw in front of his eyes. According to his dad, that he revealed it to me-a Pakistani, the number of people killed were in thousands, not hundreds, and his dad was warned of his job security, if he revealed the state complacency to media or other outlets.

Police were given specific orders on not to do anything. Muslims running for help to police, were told by police 'Ajj tau tumko koi nahi bacha sakta, humko tau orders hee nahi hai tumhey bachaney keh liye' translation 'Today no one can save you, we don't have orders to save you'

So yea, i do have access to sources, inside India, that you don't, or are unwilling to accept anything, and continue to believe in your BS

But all of a sudden you have interest in Pakistan's affairs.

 

[A.Rafay]

Now some Pakistanis will say they were not Muslims who did this, Muslims don't do things like this. Face it all are Muslims involved in hate crimes.

 

[Hyperion]

Islam version Zia 9.0 of Pakistan / and version Saud 10.0 of Arabia has nothing to do with Islam of Muhammad. Read and burn your heart out!

Achtiname of Muhammad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Translation:

1. Muhammad the son of ‘Abd Allah, the Messenger of Allah, and careful guardian of the whole world; has wrote the present instrument to all those who are in his national people, and of his own religion, as a secure and positive promise to be accomplished to the Christian nation, and relations of the Nazarene, whosoever they may be, whether they be the noble or the vulgar, the honorable or otherwise, saying thus.I. Whosoever of my nation shall presume to break my promise and oath, which is contained in this present agreement, destroys the promise of God, acts contrary to the oath, and will be a resister of the faith, (which God forbid) for he becomes worthy of the curse, whether he be the King himself, or a poor man, or whatever person he may be.
2. That whenever any of the monks in his travels shall happen to settle upon any mountain, hill, village, or other habitable place, on the sea, or in deserts, or in any convent, church, or house of prayer, I shall be in the midst of them, as the preserver and protector of them, their goods and effects, with my soul, aid, and protection, jointly with all my national people; because they are a part of my own people, and an honor to me.
3. Moreover, I command all officers not to require any poll-tax on them, or any other tribute, because they shall not be forced or compelled to anything of this kind.
4. None shall presume to change their judges or governors, but they shall remain in their office, without being deported.
5. No one shall molest them when they are travelling on the road.
6. Whatever churches they are possessed of, no one is to deprive them of them.
7. Whosoever shall annul any of one of these my decrees, let him know positively that he annuls the ordinance of God.
8. Moreover, neither their judges, governors, monks, servants, disciples, or any others depending on them, shall pay any poll-tax, or be molested on that account, because I am their protector, wherever they shall be, either by land or sea, east or west, north or south; because both they and all that belong to them are included in this my promissory oath and patent.
9. And of those that live quietly and solitary upon the mountains, they shall exact neither poll-tax nor tithes from their incomes, neither shall any Muslim partake of what they have; for they labor only to maintain themselves.
10. Whenever the crop of the earth shall be plentiful in its due time, the inhabitants shall be obliged out of every bushel to give them a certain measure.
11. Neither in time of war shall they take them out of their habitations, nor compel them to go to the wars, nor even then shall they require of them any poll-tax.
12. In these eleven chapters is to be found whatever relates to the monks, as to the remaining seven chapters, they direct what relates to every Christian.
13. Those Christians who are inhabitants, and with their riches and traffic are able to pay the poll-tax, shall pay no more than twelve drachms.
14. Excepting this, nothing shall be required of them, according to the express order of God, that says, ‘Do not molest those that have a veneration for the books that are sent from God, but rather in a kind manner give of your good things to them, and converse with them, and hinder everyone from molesting them’ [29:46].
15. If a Christian woman shall happen to marry a Muslim man, the Muslim shall not cross the inclination of his wife, to keep her from her church and prayers, and the practice of her religion.
16. That no person hinder them from repairing their churches.
17. Whosoever acts contrary to my grant, or gives credit to anything contrary to it, becomes truly an apostate to God, and to his divine apostle, because this protection I have granted to them according to this promise.
18. No one shall bear arms against them, but, on the contrary, the Muslims shall wage war for them.
19. And by this I ordain, that none of my nation shall presume to do or act contrary to this my promise, until the end of the world.

 

[IPL5]

And there are thousands of Indians desperate enough to migrate to the west in search of better life......isn't immigration something independent of the country? You have a right to do what's best for you and your family.

These Hindus are primarily from low income households, who when arrive in India will find that life isn't all green pastures and as such migrating to the only 'Hindu' nation makes sense. Just like thousands of Muslims from South Asia/far east go to GCC to live because they find it 'more accepting due to Islamic values' compared to the west.

don't try to give it a twist. they migrate and seek asylum due to religious persecution in pakistan. even your minorities want to migrate to sri lanka. let me see when indian muslim migrate to pakistan. that would be the most shameful day for us.

 

[Donatello]

don't try to give it a twist. they migrate and seek asylum due to religious persecution in pakistan. even your minorities want to migrate to sri lanka. let me see when indian muslim migrate to pakistan. that would be the most shameful day for us.

Except, a number of them went to Saudi Arabia and Gulf after the 2002 incidents.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Yea man, you are right. 10 people were killed, 2 were Muslims and 8 were Hindus.


How about i tell you, that the son of one of the senior commissioner in Ahmadabad at the time, was my batch mate in UK? And we were pretty good friends, and he described the horror he saw in front of his eyes. According to his dad, that he revealed it to me-a Pakistani, the number of people killed were in thousands, not hundreds, and his dad was warned of his job security, if he revealed the state complacency to media or other outlets.

Police were given specific orders on not to do anything. Muslims running for help to police, were told by police 'Ajj tau tumko koi nahi bacha sakta, humko tau orders hee nahi hai tumhey bachaney keh liye' translation 'Today no one can save you, we don't have orders to save you'

So yea, i do have access to sources, inside India, that you don't, or are unwilling to accept anything, and continue to believe in your BS

But all of a sudden you have interest in Pakistan's affairs.

Anecdote is not a source. People make up exaggerated stories when they don't have a story. I know a reliance infra employee who told me when a metro column collapsed, socres of people died and he'd seen it with own eyes. In reality 2.

Very fiercely anti modi NGOs and social workers (some were also honored by the congress central govt with top honors), many of them muslims have been working for rehab of victims and for prosecution of perps. Rehab packages going into hundreds of millions have been created by state and central govt separately. Nobody has come out and questioned the numbers presented to the parliament by the congress central government or claimed they did not get compensation (for deaths of near ones that is).

Enough of anecdotes and back to topic now?

 

[IPL5]

Except, a number of them went to Saudi Arabia and Gulf after the 2002 incidents.

for economic reasons only.

 

[Donatello]

Anecdote is not a source. People make up exaggerated stories when they don't have a story. I know a reliance infra employee who told me when a metro column collapsed, socres of people died and he'd seen it with own eyes. In reality 2.

Very fiercely anti modi NGOs and social workers (some were also honored by the congress central govt with top honors), many of them muslims have been working for rehab of victims and for prosecution of perps. Rehab packages going into hundreds of millions have been created by state and central govt separately. Nobody has come out and questioned the numbers presented to the parliament by the congress central government or claimed they did not get compensation (for deaths of near ones that is).

Enough of anecdotes and back to topic now?

Kid, don't be stupid. My source is as Gujju and as Hindu as anyone could get. It is very surprising how good and trust worthy Indians and Pakistanis can be, once they have lived for years, in the same house, smoked up together and party-ed together.

But then, i guess, you have no experience outside of India? Fresh imports from India like you were always fun.

for economic reasons only.

People with well run, generation old businesses in Lucknow, went to Saudi Arabia/UAE/Kuwait because of economic reason (all of a sudden post 2002) ???

 

[notsuperstitious]

Kid, don't be stupid. My source is as Gujju and as Hindu as anyone could get. It is very surprising how good and trust worthy Indians and Pakistanis can be, once they have lived for years, in the same house, smoked up together and party-ed together.

But then, i guess, you have no experience outside of India? Fresh imports from India like you were always fun.

Ad-hominem attack to justify your off topic anecdotes? Is that what passes as research where you come from???

The reliance infra guy who told me that story was a gujrati hindu, a big fan of Ambanis and an old and loyal reliance employee. So when he said scores of people died in that pillar collapse, it must be true. Evidence be damned, because you were born in the UK and smoked pot with a gujju???

Are you really that shallow??? Looks like you are. So no more replies to you on this thread. You can post on Gujrat threads if you wish and we can continue. Bye.

 

[Joeblow]

Question is why the Christians in Pakistan starting to do Blasphemy ??
do any Pakistani say anything bad to Jesus ?? pbuh ...

The answer is, they are not. People are using blasphemy as an excuse to knock off people they have grudge against.