CHRISTCHURCH SHOOTINGS: WHY WOULD INDIAN HINDUS CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF MUSLIMS?

[Nilu Pule]

Yea thats all you have "if there is one" "if kasab saw a flowing beard" ..on the other hand your rss brahmins actually spill blood of thousands of innocent. Comparing speculative killings with actual murders.

What do you mean my brethren I was born a hindu in India ..i grew up in Hyderabad in India ..i have never seen anyone with four wives ..you lying skunk have no integrity .

It's okay. Karma strikes everyone eventually.

Don't be scared. We are going to die anyway

 

[M.Bison]

It's okay. Karma strikes everyone eventually.

Don't be scared. We are going to die anyway

Yes but those children and women that you dehumanized will be granted paradise. But you will go meet Kallenbach, Gandhi in hell. They will tell you all about your culture and religion.

 

[Nilu Pule]

So you have a problem with marriage laws? It isnt compulsory and was encouraged during times of wars when widows and orphans were left without male protection and also to give hopes to widows that they are not to be buried with their husband upon his death or sieze to live in a corner as a curse [as per some cultures]...After the verse "allowing" 4 wives, it clearly states IF YOU CANT DO JUSTICE [and ALLAH knows it is not easy] marry ONLY ONE! Sure some exploit it ...but that is man's doing why blame it on the religion that restrict you to 1 wife IF YOU CANT DO JUSTICE?

Mind you previous hindu kings had CONCUBINES who didnt even have a status and rights! Even higher officers had multiple wives! Persian kings [before Islam] and relatively EVERY other culture during those times had concubines!


You really dont? Do you ask every pickpocketer or contract killer?
BTW, if you are using the highest form of HINDUISM use the highest form of Muslims [those who dont show up in the news coz they are peaceful?]


Mind you if you are using the highest form of HINDUISM use the highest form of Muslims [those who dont show up in the news coz they are peaceful?]
And yet you claim:


It is hard to believe esp when you choose them to be compared with Muslims - which dont have class and levels! But you can tell if you are true to yourself...I mean millions of Muslims in india yet not everyone is dying? Not every street is running with blood! Yet you dont have the audacity to even claim that it isnt Muslims who are killing you but some distorted mindset which doesnt see colour, religion nor creed!


Your religious affiliation is not important but you made a specific comment about a specific religion as though that trait belongs to only one religion when not too long ago, a white NON MUSLIM picked up a weapon and sprayed it on PRAYING MUSLIMS - who never came in the news for pick pocketing nor blasting religious songs at 5am (which isnt allowed in NZ)!

Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

South Asian Muslims revere the likes of Babar, Ghori, Ghazni, Khalji, Aurangzeb, Tipu etc etc. Now if a non Muslim Aurangzeb gives you a taste of your own medicine. Why cry foul?

 

[jetray]

NEW ZEALAND SHOOTING

CHRISTCHURCH SHOOTINGS: WHY WOULD SOME INDIAN HINDUS CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF MUSLIMS?
BY SOUMYA SHANKAR23 MAR 2019

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  • Like white nationalists, Hindu nationalists have been scapegoating Muslims as a way to rally support among their base
  • The Islamophobia campaign under Narendra Modi has gone into overdrive

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Floral tributes to those who were gunned down at the two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand. Photo: AFP


When a gunman stormed Al Noor Mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand, on March 15, Ansi Alibava ran for her life. In vain. Minutes later her bullet-riddled body was found on the street by the man she had recently married and moved to the country with, Abdul Nazer.

Alibava, from Kerala in India, was one of dozens slain that day, when a lone man armed with a semi-automatic weapon rampaged through Al Noor and the nearby Linwood mosque, massacring 50 worshippers in an attack he live-streamed on the internet.

Al Noor Mosque, Christchurch, New Zealand. Photo: Reuters
Along with Alibava, five other Indians lost their lives that day, so it was only natural that the horror and revulsion felt across New Zealand would be shared in India, where millions took to social media to condemn the attack. Far less natural – at least in the eyes of those not well versed in Indian politics – was that some Indians celebrated it.


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The Christchurch attack proclaimed the arrival of white supremacist violence, half a world away from its roots. White nationalists have claimed lives in the United States, Canada, Norway and other European countries. Ethnic Indians – including Hindus and Sikhs – have been among the targets. Indians of every religion in the United States have also been among the main victims of the Trump Administration’s decision to tighten the rules on H1-B visas, to pander to the nativists in his electoral base.

India’s Hindu majority appears to have no reason to support white supremacists – other than a shared hatred of Muslims.

Just like white nationalists, Hindu nationalists have been scapegoating Muslims as a way to rally support among their base. Indeed, Hindu nationalists are far more experienced at cultivating Islamophobia. They have been at it since the birth of their movement a century ago. The campaign has gone into overdrive in the India of Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

For the most part, Indian history has also been laced with examples of a syncretic Hindu-Muslim culture birthing its own unique genres of music, dance, cuisine and even forms of worship.

Hindu fundamentalists in celebrate the destruction of the 16th Century Babri Mosque in Ayodhya, 1992. Photo: AFP
There was a turning point during British rule. “The creation and perpetuation of Hindu-Muslim antagonism was the most significant accomplishment of British imperial policy: the colonial project of ‘divide et impera’ [divide and rule] fomented religious antagonisms to facilitate continued imperial rule and reached its tragic culmination in 1947,” writes Member of Parliament Shashi Tharoor.


On January 30, 1947, Nathuram Godse, a lifelong member of the Rashtriya Swayansewak Sangh (RSS) – the wellspring of right-wing nationalism in India and the ideological parent of the present-day Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) – pumped bullets into Mahatma Gandhi’s body for being too tolerant towards Muslims in the aftermath of India’s partition. Gandhi had fasted for multiple days urging Hindus and Muslims to stop savaging each other and his idea of India, perpetuated by first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, centred around a secular, pluralistic society with equal rights for all. “It was Gandhi’s assassination that stunned the country into feelings of peaceful coexistence and it seemed then that the issue [of communalism] had been resolved,” said the human rights activist Harsh Mander.

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“The RSS with their views of a Hindu nation were relegated into the shadows but within them another idea of India persisted.”

Apart from a few scattered acts of violence across the country, it wasn’t until 1992 that communal fever began to resonate nationally. A campaign for the “reconstruction” of the Ram Temple at the disputed site of Ayodhya, was launched by the nascent BJP. In the narrative of the RSS, the temple was allegedly torn down by the Muslim Mughal emperor Babur in the 16th century and the Babri mosque was established in its place.

The mosque that stood at what is considered the birthplace of Lord Rama was desecrated by an unruly mob as law enforcement officials ran for their lives.

“The demolition of the mosque was the turning point where this alternative idea of India has its first moment of glory,” said Mander.

Widespread communal violence, including riots in Mumbai, broke out across the country in 1992 and 1993, killing at least 2,000 people, mostly Muslims.

Indian Hindu and Muslim activists clash in New Delhi on an anniversary of the razing of The Babri Mosque in Ayodhya. Photo: AFP
Afterwards, the ruling Shiv Sena-BJP government said in a report that among other things, the use of loudspeakers for the Islamic call to prayer, the government’s monthly honorarium to Muslim clerics, and subsidies given to Indian-Muslims going for their pilgrimage to Mecca had brought out the enmity between Hindus and Muslims.


The Srikrishna Commission, convened to probe the violence, highlighted the anti-minority bias in the police force and said there were 31 policemen who participated in riots and looting.

Today, one of the most emotive issues for the Modi government is the call for the speedy construction of the Ram Temple. The clamour gets only louder as the general elections inch closer.

In the wake of the riots, India first witnessed the awnings of terrorism with the Bombay bomb blasts said to have been organised by Dawood Ibrahim, a Muslim honcho of an international crime syndicate then operating out of Bombay.

A victim of a train blast lies on the floor of a hospital in Mumbai in 2006. More than 100 people were killed in seven bomb explosions at rail stations and on trains in India’s financial hub. Photo: Reuters
For Kashif-ul Huda, founder of Twocircles.net, a journalism portal that focuses on the news of Indian Muslims and other minorities, “9/11 was the critical point where the government at the time linked themselves to the fear psychosis of Americans”.


“It is a shame that instead of looking inwards at Indian Muslims and their unique history in India, the Indian media started copy-pasting the American media’s rising narrative on Islamophobia,” he added.

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In 2002, Narendra Modi was the chief minister of the western state of Gujarat which saw widespread communal riots that resulted in over 1,000 deaths, mostly of Muslims. Modi was charged with complicity in the riots – which, by many accounts, was called an orchestrated pogrom against Muslims – for not doing enough to contain the violence. In 2012 the Supreme Court of India exonerated Modi but the United States and many Western nations had banned his entry for a questionable human rights record – though they rethought this stance when he was elected prime minister in 2014 with an overwhelming majority, among the first in a growing list of democratically elected right-wing populist leaders around the world.

In the past five years, India has seen a sharp rise in incidents of communal violence in recent times. “With the coming of Modi, people know they can get away with violence, and are more vocally Islamophobic on social media,” said Huda.

With the coming of Modi, people know they can get away with violence, and are more vocally Islamophobic on social media
Kashif-ul Huda
A 104-page report released by Human Rights Watch (HRW) recently titled ‘Violent Cow Protection in India’ stated at least 280 people were injured in more than 100 communal attacks across 20 Indian states between 2015 and 2018 that largely targeted Muslims. HRW stated hate groups enjoyed impunity because of their closeness to the ruling party and the support of law enforcement, noting that “communal rhetoric by members of the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party to spur a violent vigilante campaign against consumption of beef and those engaged in the cattle trade” was high.

Divisive: Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Photo: TNS
The report said that during that time period 36 Muslims were killed and there had been a 500 per cent growth in communally divisive rhetoric in speeches by politicians, 90 per cent of who belonged to the BJP.


Much of this muscular right-wingism is organic and lynchings of minorities, most of whom are Muslims have taken centre stage. “Hate lynching is something we’ve only seen in India in this moment of history,” said Mander. “It is in a sense our unique cruelty. Its closest parallels are lynchings of African Americans in the US.”

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According to social activist Shabnam Hashmi, the Islamophobia has broadened to encompass growing hatred and intolerance towards anybody who questions the government. Artists, intellectuals and journalists are branded anti-national and attacked and trolled mercilessly. Hashmi cited the recent killing of journalist Gauri Lankesh by the Hindu right-wingers as an example. “We have a semi-fascist regime which is moving towards a situation where all democratic structures are compromised – universities, judiciary, economic institutions etc,” she said, adding that the last 10 years had “converted me into a Muslim woman in the public eye”, when in reality she is “a hard-core atheist”.

Kavitha Lankesh is consoled by a relative as the body of her sister Indian journalist Gauri Lankesh is brought to the Ravindra Kalakshetra cultural centre in Bangalore. Photo: AFP
Hashmi, like many other Indian Muslims, tears through the notion of justifying Islamophobia by pinning Islam as an intolerant religion that promotes terrorism. “If Islam was teaching terrorism, the world would have been finished a long time back. Islam is the second largest religion in the world.”


For Mander, his 27 trips across the country through his flagship project, the ‘Karwan-e-Mohabbat’ [Caravan of Love] have been eye-opening in revealing the growing chasm in Indian society.

“I see extreme cruelty, not just killing but killing with extreme cruelty – gouging off peoples’ eyes, slashing off genitals and so on, coupled with the performative nature of the video camera pointed at them by the perpetrators of lynchings,” he said.

If Islam was teaching terrorism, the world would have been finished a long time back
Shabnam Hashmi
‘Karwan-e-Mohabbat’ is a journey across India against “mounting hate” where civil society members like Mander visit homes of families that have lost their members to recent lynchings.

With the general elections less than a month away, efforts have intensified from among civil society members to tackle hate and divisiveness with a different kind of messaging. “The way the prime minister of New Zealand responded and also just how ordinary people responded with compassion, we don’t see that kind of response by our prime minister and religious leaders,” said Mander. He said it would take years of unlearning to go back on the divisive climate of Modi’s India, akin to the post-war rebuilding of German society. ■

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/poli...otings-why-would-some-indian-hindus-celebrate

ah, a chinese news website firing from others hip to hide their own follies.

 

[Nilu Pule]

Yes but those children and women that you dehumanized will be granted paradise. But you will go meet Kallenbach, Gandhi in hell. They will tell you all about your culture and religion.

Lol. I am too old for fairytales .

 

[M.Bison]

Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

South Asian Muslims revere the likes of Babar, Ghori, Ghazni, Khalji, Aurangzeb, Tipu etc etc. Now if a non Muslim Aurangzeb gives you a taste of your own medicine. Why cry foul?

Wtf are you talking about? Aurangzeb built more hindu temples than his predecessors. You should thank god that Aurangzeb was king and not someone like modi.

Lol. I am too old for fairytales .

All of India is based on fairytales. Bollywood, your millions gods, SUpa pOWA 2020 and many others. Unfortunately, there is one truth you haven't realized yet but your time will come. If not in this life then the next.

 

[Nilu Pule]

Wtf are you talking about? Aurangzeb built more hindu temples than his predecessors. You should thank god that Aurangzeb was king and not someone like modi.

You should thank hulagu khan and george bush

 

[M.Bison]

You should thank hulagu khan and george bush

What did they do? They were defeated. WTF did George bush accomplish in Iraq and Afghanistan. We should thank them because your turn is next. Remember what Vikram sood said? Once we win in Afghanistan then your time is next.

 

[Nilu Pule]

. If not in this life then the next.

That's bidah. You repent now. Or your ticket jannah al firdus will get cancelled.

 

[M.Bison]

That's bidah. You repent now. Or your ticket jannah al firdus will get cancelled.

lol that's the whole point... you really are dense.

 

[Nilu Pule]

What did they do? They were defeated. WTF did George bush accomplish in Iraq and Afghanistan. We should thank them because your turn is next. Remember what Vikram sood said? Once we win in Afghanistan then your time is next.

It's okay. You will get your due in trumpland soon. The real whites will take good care of white wannabi punjabee muslim

 

[M.Bison]

It's okay. You will get your due in trumpland soon. The real whites will take good care of white wannabi punjabee muslim

ROFL, oy kali bund why you so mad? You mad at me because im not like you? You mad at me because I don't eat chicken vindalu and vara idli. You daal chapati hindu getting so mad. All that hing phatkari is making your sh!t brown face even sh!tier.

You hating on punjabis because we fu!k you so hard that it hurts.. Pakistan is one nation and only your sh!t hindu media try to portray otherwise. Punjabis are ****!ng you so hard. I wonder what you will say when the other provinces get at you.

Trump is a godsend for muslims. He will unite us.

 

[Dubious]

Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

South Asian Muslims revere the likes of Babar, Ghori, Ghazni, Khalji, Aurangzeb, Tipu etc etc. Now if a non Muslim Aurangzeb gives you a taste of your own medicine. Why cry foul?

1) No one can convince anyone filled with hatred...nor is the place to find solace or cry for a need to convince as you have repeatedly done so!
2) South Asian Muslims dont make up all Muslims of the world...And Muslims in your neighbourhood dont make up all Muslims of the world! Just like a beef fanatic doesnt represent all of india!
3) As for Aurangzeb he is long dead...those who write about him either were paid to do so at that time or hated him at that time...Modern historians can only read those accords and derive conclusions WHILE indian media doesnt need even that to derive its agenda into indian minds

Just like the world tells Muslim to get over the Ottoman but wont get over holocaust! They tell Japanese to get over the atomic bombing but wont get over the Vietnam war scars that they proudly present as veterans!

 

[SorryNotSorry]

It is your fellow hindu citizen that tried to dehumanize muslims. Saying that they are playing the victim card and that muslims have no right to be victims. There were children in that mosque. This p!g doesn't realize that and he made a hateful post. What do you expect from us? Only a citizen from Hindu India is crazy enough to make a post like this and then argue it for hours on end. For you to defend his thinking and point the blame on others in this post is just irresponsible and complicit.

I am not defending this dikbag. Screw him. This guy is mentally ill, I had already established that previously.

Just using an average to crazy ratio, India has its fair share of loony bins. No point focusing on them, and painting all Indians in the same color.

1) No one can convince anyone filled with hatred...nor is the place to find solace or cry for a need to convince as you have repeatedly done so!
2) South Asian Muslims dont make up all Muslims of the world...And Muslims in your neighbourhood dont make up all Muslims of the world! Just like a beef fanatic doesnt represent all of india!
3) As for Aurangzeb he is long dead...those who write about him either were paid to do so at that time or hated him at that time...Modern historians can only read those accords and derive conclusions WHILE indian media doesnt need even that to derive its agenda into indian minds

Just like the world tells Muslim to get over the Ottoman but wont get over holocaust! They tell Japanese to get over the atomic bombing but wont get over the Vietnam war scars that they proudly present as veterans!

Pajji, he's not all there.
Theres no point in arguing here. He is either an unstable individual or a massive troll.

 

[Nilu Pule]

ROFL, oy kali bund why you so mad? You mad at me because im not like you? You mad at me because I don't eat chicken vindalu and vara idli. You daal chapati hindu getting so mad. All that hing phatkari is making your sh!t brown face even sh!tier.

You hating on punjabis because we fu!k you so hard that it hurts.. Pakistan is one nation and only your sh!t hindu media try to portray otherwise. Punjabis are ****!ng you so hard. I wonder what you will say when the other provinces get at you.

Trump is a godsend for muslims. He will unite us.

Your long posts say it all, wannabe gora punjabi musalman.