Chinese UAV News & Discussions (Strictly)

[Akasa]

Two pieces of official info about Wing Loong II

(1) internal weapons bay
(2) largest order by amount for Chinese military UAVs

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2016-11-02/doc-ifxxfuff7681763.shtml

Is the weapons bay present on current models or will it be incorporated in the future? Any reason why the customer chose WL-II over the much-superior CH-5?

 

[aliaselin]

much-superior CH-5

How？

 

[zestokryl]

So, according to the information, from expo and chinese internet , maximum payloads are, for :

Wing Loong II : 480 kg

CH 5 : 1000 kg

Shadow Clowd : 400 kg

 

[Beast]

Is the weapons bay present on current models or will it be incorporated in the future? Any reason why the customer chose WL-II over the much-superior CH-5?

Wing loong II has much faster speed.

 

[aliaselin]

So, according to the information, from expo and chinese internet , maximum payloads are, for :

Wing Loong II : 480 kg

CH 5 : 1000 kg

Shadow Clowd : 400 kg

No. The playload of export version of CH-5 is 480kg too

 

[Sanchez]

So, according to the information, from expo and chinese internet , maximum payloads are, for :

Wing Loong II : 480 kg

CH 5 : 1000 kg

Shadow Clowd : 400 kg

WL-II has an internal weapons bay that allows an additional payload of 200kgs.

 

[zestokryl]

Thats very bad, if export version is limited with payload of 480 kg...

Since guided and cluster bombs, are usually 250 kg caliber. Meaning, its limited with weight of less than two bombs of decent caliber. Not to speak, about additional bombs and missiles. Deployment of such drone is almost senseless , because on of its roles is to start the process of replacing conventional aviation. With such rough restriction, it payload is far from desirable

Regarding internal bays, since the fuselage of WL II is rather moderate, I would never suspect, there are internal bays, but there is. Cant wait, for possible closer look up on the drones

 

[aliaselin]

Thats very bad, if export version is limited with payload of 480 kg...

Since guided and cluster bombs, are usually 250 kg caliber. Meaning, its limited with weight of less than two bombs of decent caliber. Not to speak, about additional bombs and missiles. Deployment of such drone is almost senseless , because on of its roles is to start the process of replacing conventional aviation. With such rough restriction, it payload is far from desirable

Regarding internal bays, since the fuselage of WL II is rather moderate, I would never suspect, there are internal bays, but there is. Cant wait, for possible closer look up on the drones

480 kg is restricted by MTCR. Only some special friends can get the complete version such as Pakistan

 

[S. Martin]

So, according to the information, from expo and chinese internet , maximum payloads are, for :

Wing Loong II : 480 kg

CH 5 : 1000 kg

Shadow Clowd : 400 kg

Wing Loong II, CH5, Clowd Shadow, PLA AttacK-1,Sky wing 3.... These new UAVs look almost same! OMG, I really feel confused with so many similar types!

 

[Akasa]

How？

Far greater payload and (presumably) endurance.

 

[Hindustani78]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...nmanned-combat-drone/articleshow/55200990.cms

The export licence for the CH-5, the latest from the Caihong family designed by the state run China Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics, comes as Beijing seeks to expand the international sales of its military drones, which already extends to 10 nations.

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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

By Saibal Dasgupta, TNN | Updated: Nov 02, 2016, 12.04 PM IST


BEIJING: China has allowed the export of an unmanned combat drone that can carry between 16 and 24 air-to-surface missiles at a time and stay in the air for 60 hours at a stretch.

The export licence for the CH-5, the latest from the Caihong family designed by the state run China Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics, comes as Beijing seeks to expand the international sales of its military drones, which already extends to 10 nations. "Several nations have expressed intentions to purchase the CH-5," said Shi Wen, chief designer of the Caihong, or Rainbow, at CAAA.

Shi said the CH-5 was better than the American MQ-9 Reaper "because it surpasses the latter's flight duration and operational efficiency". He added that the CH-5 could operate at an altitude of up to 10 km and fly as far as 6,500 km. An upgrade would enable it to fly up to 10,000 km, he added. "The CH-5 is capable of a joint strike with its predecessors, the CH-3 and CH-4, because they can share the same data link and control system," Shi said.

 

[Deino]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...nmanned-combat-drone/articleshow/55200990.cms

....

What a report !???
And since I'm too lazy to sort out or too stupid to know I just take an image of a US Predator drone ...

 

[aliaselin]

Far greater payload and (presumably) endurance.

No greater playload. Wingloong II can take more than 1 t of playload while CH5 only 900 kg. Greater endurance is simply because CH5 has used a much lower power engine

 

[Deino]

But where is this alleged weapons bay ?

 

[Akasa]

No greater playload. Wingloong II can take more than 1 t of playload while CH5 only 900 kg. Greater endurance is simply because CH5 has used a much lower power engine

Are there any sources that indicate the WL-II's max payload (non-export variant)?