Chinese UAV News & Discussions (Strictly)

[LKJ86]

Anyone with an idea what he means?? I'm confused ...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1159473121524498432

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1159476270293553153

 

[LKJ86]

 

[dBSPL]

Laser weapon technology to shoot down Chinese UAV Wing Loong II in Libya

https://www.armyrecognition.com/wea..._down_chinese_uav_wing_loong_ii_in_libya.html

The development of this technology will inevitably result in a reassessment of the tasks taking place at tactical altitude. Some of my Chinese friends are mad at me, but that's what I'm talking about. The title of the news is China which is provider of system, not the UAE as the operator. Even if you build a superior weapon system, the operator's level of training and usage authorizations are becoming an increasingly critical issue. Because even when dealing with an asymmetric threat, you may encounter very serious countermeasure systems.

 

[samsara]

UAE is rich. They can buy more WL. It's their own fault if they are a less competent operator. But really, what do we expect from the oil-rich spoilt brag?

Actually I am not happy to see WL being used against the freedom fighter Yemenis in Yemen. Poor Yemen being torn apart by its much larger and richer neighbour… but if CHN doesn't supply, then US would do. Life is just cruel to the unfortunate!

 

[kristisipe]

China just needs to continue to make its drones better and provides excellent customer services to customers. Don't worry about those inferior turks, they are greedy & very dishonest. Ignore what these losers have to say. Keep on truckin', China.

 

[Turan09]

China just needs to continue to make its drones better and provides excellent customer services to customers. Don't worry about those inferior turks, they are greedy & very dishonest. Ignore what these losers have to say. Keep on truckin', China.

It looks like, You just roasted like your Wing Loong II, Jokes aside, every weapon system have some weak spots and can be destroyed. Yours childish attitude is not healty. After all it is not our fault that your precious UCAV fried by a Turkish System.

 

[kristisipe]

One more time.

China just needs to continue to make its drones better and provides excellent customer services to customers. Don't worry about those inferior turks, they are greedy & very dishonest. Ignore what these losers have to say. Keep on truckin', China.

 

[055_destroyer]

One more time.

Laser still has their limitation. I bet the UCAV flies really low that allow even manpad to brought down it easily without even deploy laser. The laser mount on a off road truck can't have too much power to shot down something flying higher.

 

[Turan09]

Laser still has their limitation. I bet the UCAV flies really low that allow even manpad to brought down it easily without even deploy laser. The laser mount on a off road truck can't have too much power to shot down something flying higher.

The laser we have used has 5kw power. And it is specially designed to counter UCAVS and other light targets... but you are right it probably cant destroy a high flying target.... about why wing loong 2 was flying low' (there is two main alternatives, 1) operators fault, 2) chinese flir has problems thats why you have to fly low to strike Your targets) but in the end Wing Loong doesnt have any armour so it is understandable if it took any direct hit it will be destroyed. It is the problems of UCAVS, They dont have any armour.

 

[kristisipe]

Laser still has their limitation. I bet the UCAV flies really low that allow even manpad to brought down it easily without even deploy laser. The laser mount on a off road truck can't have too much power to shot down something flying higher.

I'm sure Chinese engineers will find the root cause and make an even better drone than what those inferior turks could ever come up with.

 

[IblinI]

@Deino Please keep an eye on this thread, seems it is inevitably going to become a flame.

 

[JSCh]

China's fighter drones possible with AI use: experts
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times Published: 2019/8/14 17:41:22

Chinese UAV Wing Loong II is seen on the static display during the 52nd Paris Air Show at Le Bourget Airport near Paris, France June 20, 2017. Photo: CFP

China's plan to integrate artificial intelligence (AI) for drones would make fighter drones possible, allowing them to fly on their own, identify targets and make decisions to enhance their combat capability, Chinese military experts said on Wednesday.

Speaking on the future of China's military drones on a China Central Television (CCTV) program aired on Monday, Li Yidong, chief designer of China's Wing Loong series drones, said, "AI is a huge field with many basic technologies, which are developing. We are doing all sorts of work to apply these technologies on drones, and also piloted aircraft."

"We want [drones] to fly intelligently, have smart situational awareness, capable of identifying targets and automatically make some decisions," Li said.

Drones today are operated manually and remotely from ground stations, but the signals could be jammed in electric warfare and the aircraft could lose their combat capability, Wei Dongxu, a Beijing-based military analyst, told the Global Times on Wednesday, noting that AI installed on drones would solve this problem.

"AI is also a fundamental requirement for the development of fighter drones," Wei said.

Since lag time occurs in remote control over long distances, drones now have difficulty fighting air-to-air combat in which battle situations change very fast. But with AI, the drones can fight using their own judgment and without lag caused by data transmission, according to Wei.

AI developers must also consider the safety issue, as AI drones must still strictly follow human commands and not take unwished actions, analysts said.

Technological issues also need to be sorted out, like the development of the hardware and if the size of it can be fitted onto a drone, Wei said.

Li said that he is also developing drones that can fit into a whole combat system, exponentially boosting the system's combat capability.

Li did not give any detail on this aspect.

The Wing Loong series of drones are domestically developed by the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China.

As of December 2018, 100 Wing Loong drones have been delivered for export, the Xinhua News Agency reported.

They have fired more than 3,000 rounds of live munitions on battlefields with an overall accuracy higher than 90 percent, according to a separate CCTV report in March.

 

[055_destroyer]

The laser we have used has 5kw power. And it is specially designed to counter UCAVS and other light targets... but you are right it probably cant destroy a high flying target.... about why wing loong 2 was flying low' (there is two main alternatives, 1) operators fault, 2) chinese flir has problems thats why you have to fly low to strike Your targets) but in the end Wing Loong doesnt have any armour so it is understandable if it took any direct hit it will be destroyed. It is the problems of UCAVS, They dont have any armour.

Wing loong is a medium attitude UCAV, it is meant the do operation even at that height. FLIR definitely can handle that attitude. More on operating or weapon selection process. Even the low threat possibility, carry more short range ATGM is a logical decision but will expose to enemy ground air defense. They must have bet rebel do not have anything credible to handle their threat.

China's fighter drones possible with AI use: experts
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times Published: 2019/8/14 17:41:22

Chinese UAV Wing Loong II is seen on the static display during the 52nd Paris Air Show at Le Bourget Airport near Paris, France June 20, 2017. Photo: CFP

China's plan to integrate artificial intelligence (AI) for drones would make fighter drones possible, allowing them to fly on their own, identify targets and make decisions to enhance their combat capability, Chinese military experts said on Wednesday.

Speaking on the future of China's military drones on a China Central Television (CCTV) program aired on Monday, Li Yidong, chief designer of China's Wing Loong series drones, said, "AI is a huge field with many basic technologies, which are developing. We are doing all sorts of work to apply these technologies on drones, and also piloted aircraft."

"We want [drones] to fly intelligently, have smart situational awareness, capable of identifying targets and automatically make some decisions," Li said.

Drones today are operated manually and remotely from ground stations, but the signals could be jammed in electric warfare and the aircraft could lose their combat capability, Wei Dongxu, a Beijing-based military analyst, told the Global Times on Wednesday, noting that AI installed on drones would solve this problem.

"AI is also a fundamental requirement for the development of fighter drones," Wei said.

Since lag time occurs in remote control over long distances, drones now have difficulty fighting air-to-air combat in which battle situations change very fast. But with AI, the drones can fight using their own judgment and without lag caused by data transmission, according to Wei.

AI developers must also consider the safety issue, as AI drones must still strictly follow human commands and not take unwished actions, analysts said.

Technological issues also need to be sorted out, like the development of the hardware and if the size of it can be fitted onto a drone, Wei said.

Li said that he is also developing drones that can fit into a whole combat system, exponentially boosting the system's combat capability.

Li did not give any detail on this aspect.

The Wing Loong series of drones are domestically developed by the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China.

As of December 2018, 100 Wing Loong drones have been delivered for export, the Xinhua News Agency reported.

They have fired more than 3,000 rounds of live munitions on battlefields with an overall accuracy higher than 90 percent, according to a separate CCTV report in March.

AI has already interested into current drone. Iraq operator mention Chinese UCAV are easier to fly compare to US due auto take off and landing and able to ID most Target thus reduce workload of operator with only the fire decision lies purely on operator to give the green light. This article may be talking about a more autonomous version which maybe can operate without operater supervision.

 

[LKJ86]