Chinese UAV News & Discussions (Strictly)

[That Guy]

This one cannot carry out combat.

I know, the ToT for the weapon system was never transferred as far as I know.

 

[hk299792458]

Soar dragon ?

We saw the CEO of AVIC in this photo.

Henri K.

 

[hk299792458]

Taxiing of "Sharp Sword" UCAV.

Henri K.

 

[Nishan_101]

GAIC's Harrier III drone...

A better option for PN

 

[AirRodgers]

Rainbow 4 UAVs
http://www.51jiwo.com/military/11023.html

rainbow -4 flight height of 7-8 km, the flight speed of up to 300 km/h, flight duration is more than 40 hours, you can fly continuously for two days and two nights, perform remote tasks. In terms of weapons and equipment, rainbow -4 hung beneath the front wing ground missiles and bombs

This is one sic Drone lol could loiter for 40 hours and be arm with 4 missile/bombs... This would make for and awesome weapon to patrol hostile border.. Imagine the saving of having say 100 of these patrolling a long hostile border, you could have 24/7 coverage...
imagine what Syria and Iraq could do with these bad boys...
Rainbow 4 UAV missile test

imo Drone will be the future of most third world country air wing who can't afford a real air force..it might even be more effective and way cheaper than maintaining an air force...

 

[Beast]

Rainbow 4 UAVs
http://www.51jiwo.com/military/11023.html



This is one sic Drone lol could loiter for 40 hours and be arm with 4 missile/bombs... This would make for and awesome weapon to patrol hostile border.. Imagine the saving of having say 100 of these patrolling a long hostile border, you could have 24/7 coverage...
imagine what Syria and Iraq could do with these bad boys...
Rainbow 4 UAV missile test

imo Drone will be the future of most third world country air wing who can't afford a real air force..it might even be more effective and way cheaper than maintaining an air force...

But UAV is slow. It will still be vulnerable to even manpads. Its highly effective against insurgent who cant have too much high tech. But against a nation with modern arm forces. I think UAV is still far from entering combat. UAV in a modern warfare between equal strength nation will be more useful in reconnaissance

 

[AirRodgers]

Its slow and its cheap, if you have 100 of these up at the same time how many terrorist or insurgent group have access to unlimited supply of manpads.. Those manpads are hard to get for even well funded terrorist or insurgent group...
UAV slowness is also its greatest asset, with slowness comes longer loiter times over a battle field, it also allow it to hunt and pick up on target that a fast mover would miss..

UAV will change the face of warfare in the 21st century country like the US and China will be able to block out the sun with these and use their Air Force man fighter to fly cover ...
The US predator drone cost 30 million dollar while the Chinese version cost 1 million dollar.. In the near future you see those price drop to even lower level..


say in a future war China need to destroy a well defended base and it have two option.
one:
send in 10 J10 cost 15 pilot, est. 50 million per plane fully loaded and arm. total cost 500 million committed to the mission
two:
send 100 drones cost 175 million fully fuel and arm drones and zero potential for lost of a pilot committed to the mission...

now out of the above option which one do you think is the better option..

 

[applesauce]

Its slow and its cheap, if you have 100 of these up at the same time how many terrorist or insurgent group have access to unlimited supply of manpads.. Those manpads are hard to get for even well funded terrorist or insurgent group...
UAV slowness is also its greatest asset, with slowness comes longer loiter times over a battle field, it also allow it to hunt and pick up on target that a fast mover would miss..

UAV will change the face of warfare in the 21st century country like the US and China will be able to block out the sun with these and use their Air Force man fighter to fly cover ...
The US predator drone cost 30 million dollar while the Chinese version cost 1 million dollar.. In the near future you see those price drop to even lower level..


say in a future war China need to destroy a well defended base and it have two option.
one:
send in 10 J10 cost 15 pilot, est. 50 million per plane fully loaded and arm. total cost 500 million committed to the mission
two:
send 100 drones cost 175 million fully fuel and arm drones and zero potential for lost of a pilot committed to the mission...

now out of the above option which one do you think is the better option..

there is another thought.
a manned fighter acting as a commander for a group of UAVs, essentially combining the best of both worlds, and yes if future wars involve two large and capable militaries such as china and the US it would not be a hand full of uavs hunting for a couple of terrorists, but swarms of em, if nothing else they'll keep your defenses busy while the real killer sneaks though. futher more in these large near peer battles it would not be the slow drones of today goign at it, it would be the fast stealthy drones of tomorrow fighting each other. we are already seeing a glimpse of this in the x-47b and others

 

[cnleio]

 

[IND151]

Images of the Chinese version of the US Northrop Grumman RQ-4 Global Hawk drone were recently featured in a video posted online, reports our sister newspaper Want Daily.

The long-range drone, referred to as Changhang — an abbreviation of the word “long range” in Chinese — has a very similar look to its US counterpart, though it shares the same joined-wing design as another Chinese drone, the Guizhou Soar Dragon.

A Chinese military expert told the Global Times newspaper that the drone is designed to be more aerodynamic than the Global Hawk, which was used as the blueprint for the the Changhang. Its engine design and payload capacity is unable to compete with the Global Hawk, however, according to the analyst.

Want Daily said there are as yet no details available to tell whether the drone is a modified version of the Guizhou Soar Dragon or something different. Chinese drones have so far tended to have very similar designs. For example, Aviation Industry Corporation of China’s Chengdu Pterodactyl UAV, sometimes referred to as the WingLoong, and the CH-4 developed by China Aerospace Science & Industry Corporation look exactly the same. The specifications of the long-range drone remain unknown.

The US-based Defense News reported that the Guizhou Soar Dragon drone designed by Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group has a take-off weight of 7,500 kilograms, a mission payload of 650 kilograms and a maximum range of 7,000 kilometers. Since the Changhang is much bigger than the Guizhou Soar Dragon, Want Daily presumes that it must have similar capability to the Global Hawk, able to conduct long-range strategic reconnaissance missions over the South China Sea.

China demonstrates its version of Global Hawk drone | idrw.org

 

[eazzy]

Impressive progress made by China.

 

[Nishan_101]

I am hopeful that PAC and NECOM with KRL are working with Chinese on both of the big UCAVss...

 

[nomi007]

Two Chinese 'Joined-Wing' Drone Spotted

Two Chinese 'Joined-Wing' Drone Spotted

 

[cirr]

U8E ready for exports：

Any takers？

 

[nomi007]