Chinese scholars warn of growing national arrogance

[chauism]

@PACMAN
Do you enjoy being sarcastic in every post of yours?

Why do you think that he is being sarcastic?

I reckon he is not even Chinese, and just pretend to be one.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Why do you think that he is being sarcastic?

I reckon he is not even Chinese, and just pretend to be one.

When i saw his post on India,i thought he was mocking us by being sarcastic.

Judging his statements on China we have a masquerader here.

Anyway,won't be long before the mods find his IP and kick him out.

So carry on


ontopic

Ultra nationalists are ubiquitous and more in numbers when the country was successful in history as well as modern times

Judging my own countrymen,who become fluttering Helium balloons on the net on small success we achieve ,China having its share of such people is no surprise.

 

[PACMAN]

CCP controls the media in China?
Not CCP but Chinese people themselves.

 

[Brotherhood]

Perhaps that is becuase the CCP controls the media in China? The only way Chinese intellectuals can speak out is through the foreign press. Even then if they still live in China, they risk being sent to a re-education camp.

Why so much concern when Chinese people are so satisfy with the way our government run our country, lay off your crocodile tears to somewhere else please.

China is clearly the most self-satisfied country in the survey. Nine-in-ten Chinese are happy with the direction of their country (87%), feel good about the current state of their economy (91%) and are optimistic about China's economic future (87%).
Obama More Popular Abroad than at Home, Global Image of U.S. Continues to Benefit - Pew Research Center

 

[afriend]

Yes, in my personal interaction with some of the chinese, i have found this trait, which infact have been a strangely common factor across all the chinese that i have met. And surely a doubt of such kinda hadd really cropped up my mind earlier.

I think now i know, there some who had the same doubts as well.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Chinese-Dragon, from personal point of view, I don't think so. Most chinese poeple i met in real life (mainly chinese students in singapore) are proud of their nation but are not arrogant or overly nationalistic. They know how to respect others and other nations.

Its only few pricks online who bring about a negative image. they belittle others or make a lot of false or arrogant claims. but that happens with people of all nationality. there is no shortage of hate-spewing fanboys of any nationality, especially in defence forums. lets not judge any nation based on those low-life retards.

Nice post.

Deng Xiaoping "Keep a cool head and maintain a low profile."

I like it! Deng Xiaoping is pretty bad *** lol..

Yes that is one of my favourite quotes.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Ultra nationalists are ubiquitous and more in numbers when the country is successful in history as well as modern times

You're right, it's the price of success.

However ultra-nationalism can be very deadly, because it has historically often led to war.

Look at Germany and Japan during WW2 for instance.

 

[Nomenclature]

Perhaps that is becuase the CCP controls the media in China? The only way Chinese intellectuals can speak out is through the foreign press. Even then if they still live in China, they risk being sent to a re-education camp.

I don't think you understood what he meant. We were discussing China's international profile, not its internal dissent. And I hardly think Chinese intellectuals are sending messages to the foreign press about China's 'strengthening grip over Africa' or 'potential superpowerdom'.

It's funny you wrote 'the only way Chinese intellectuals can speak out is through the foreign press' in a thread discussing a report on some Chinese scholars taking a contrarian view and having it published on a prominent state-owned newspaper.

 

[Thomas]

I don't think you understood what he meant. We were discussing China's international profile, not its internal dissent. And I hardly think Chinese intellectuals are sending messages to the foreign press about China's 'strengthening grip over Africa' or 'potential superpowerdom'.

It's funny you wrote 'the only way Chinese intellectuals can speak out is through the foreign press' in a thread discussing a report on some Chinese scholars taking a contrarian view and having it published on a prominent state-owned newspaper.

Perhaps you could link the state owned newspaper? I have searched and can not find it, the thread article is BBC.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Perhaps that is becuase the CCP controls the media in China? The only way Chinese intellectuals can speak out is through the foreign press. Even then if they still live in China, they risk being sent to a re-education camp.

No trolling please.

This thread is about rising nationalist sentiment in China, leave your China-bashing to other threads.

 

[Nomenclature]

Perhaps you could link the state owned newspaper? I have searched and can not find it, the thread article is BBC.

Have you read the title article from BBC?

China's confidence in its economic development is turning into "national arrogance", according to a group of Chinese scholars.

In a set of articles published in a state newspaper, they said that China might have lost its traditional virtue of being modest and become intolerant.

And they questioned whether the world was misreading China or whether China itself was to blame.

The cause lay in a refusal to accept some universal values, they said.

BBC News - China scholars warn of growing national arrogance

 

[chauism]

Perhaps that is becuase the CCP controls the media in China? The only way Chinese intellectuals can speak out is through the foreign press. Even then if they still live in China, they risk being sent to a re-education camp.

Actually he was talking about those fuss have been made by the western media about the success stories of China. The official media rarely boost about those things. Chinese government also worries about the growing nationalism in China as it might get out of hands, it just matter of time before someone take advantage of it and do something really stupid and dangerous. Nationalism is a beast that Chinese government can not even tame.

Also China's freedom of speech and freedom of press is not up to the level of western nations, but it is not as strict as you made it out to be. As long as it is not something too extreme and sensitive, you will find all those positive or negative articles and speech written and spoken by those so call intellectuals sometimes even on the official medias.

 

[Thomas]

Have you read the title article from BBC?



BBC News - China scholars warn of growing national arrogance

You are right, I read it but for some reason it didn't stick out to me. Not above saying I was wrong on my take on it.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You are right, I read it but for some reason it didn't stick out to me. Not above saying I was wrong on my take on it.

Fair enough.

As Chauism said, clearly China does not have the same level of free speech that America has... but it's not as strict as you were making out.

The way some people talk about China, it sounds like a bad stereotype.

 

[chauism]

When i saw his post on India,i thought he was mocking us by being sarcastic.

Judging his statements on China we have a masquerader here.

Anyway,won't be long before the mods find his IP and kick him out.

So carry on


ontopic

Ultra nationalists are ubiquitous and more in numbers when the country was successful in history as well as modern times

Judging my own countrymen,who become fluttering Helium balloons on the net on small success we achieve ,China having its share of such people is no surprise.

It is burden that countries like China and India have to bear. Those glorious histories sometimes make people dwell on the past and forget how to look at the present weakness and move forward in a positive attitude.