Chinese President Xi Jinping Refuses To Meet Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe

[SvenSvensonov]

BEIJING (Reuters) - China's official Xinhua news agency on Monday poured cold water on the idea that the leaders of China and Japan could have formal talks on the sidelines of next week's Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit.

Expectations have been growing in Japan for Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping for an ice-breaking chat at the gathering of Asia-Pacific leaders.

A meeting of the two leaders would be a symbolic breakthrough in ties between the world's second- and third-biggest economies, which have turned frigid in the past two years over a territorial row, regional rivalry and the bitter legacy of Japan's wartime occupation of China.

Abe had "spared no efforts" in seeking to meet with Xi, Xinhua said in an English-language commentary.

"His wish will be fulfilled, since Beijing, the host of this forum, will undoubtedly receive the Japanese leader with etiquette and hospitality, despite chronic territorial rows and a historical feud with Tokyo," it said.

"However, that does not necessarily mean Abe's long-sought formal talks with Xi during APEC would come true, which demands Abe extend good faith and take real action to create the proper atmosphere."

But Japan has not made such efforts in bilateral ties, which have been constantly troubled by its attempts to wash off its war-time atrocities, Xinhua added.

Xinhua commentaries are not official government pronouncements, but can be read as a reflection of official thinking.

The commentary said that though bad ties benefited neither country, Japan had "launched a string of provocations" last month, including visits by government ministers to the Yasukuni Shrine, which China sees as a symbol of Japan's past militarism.

Yasukuni honors millions of war dead, including wartime leaders convicted as war criminals by an Allied tribunal.

"In short, it seems nothing more than a mere clumsy political stunt for the island country to advocate dialogue and fence-mending with neighbors on the one hand, while sticking to the bigoted course of fomenting strife and misgivings on the other," Xinhua added.

From China's Xinhua pours cold water on idea of Xi-Abe talks| Reuters

 

[DoTell]

China has gradually learned how to deal with democratic countries whose leaders may not say or do things for their countries' best interest, but for their own political interest. Abe for instance, may have realized that what he's done to the Sino-Japan relation has harmed Japanese interest (eps. economically), but he has to keep up his right wing rhetoric in order to maintain support from his own party. In other words, his hands are tied.

What China is doing now is showing the line for all parties in Japan. You can't get back once you cross it. We understand that you all use us as a "card" in your internal bickering between parties, but there certain things you don't do.

The way I see it, it will be a long time before the tie can be back to the pre-2010 level when there was even talks about east Asia free trade zone.

 

[Keel]

Japanese is the country that has waged the most wars against Chinese
Japanese has killed more Chinese than any other counries in the world
They have invaded China numerous times

The Boxer Rebellion (August 1899 – September 1901)
First Sino-Japanese War (War of Jiawu) (1 August 1894 – 17 April 1895)
Invasion of Taiwan, China (1874 and 1895)
Invasion of Manchuria (18 September 1931 – 27 February 1932)
Second Sino-Japanese War (WW II) (July 7, 1937 – September 9, 1945)

Absolute dispise on these bunch of war mongering criminals

 

[Aepsilons]

BEIJING (Reuters) - China's official Xinhua news agency on Monday poured cold water on the idea that the leaders of China and Japan could have formal talks on the sidelines of next week's Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit.

Expectations have been growing in Japan for Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping for an ice-breaking chat at the gathering of Asia-Pacific leaders.

A meeting of the two leaders would be a symbolic breakthrough in ties between the world's second- and third-biggest economies, which have turned frigid in the past two years over a territorial row, regional rivalry and the bitter legacy of Japan's wartime occupation of China.

Abe had "spared no efforts" in seeking to meet with Xi, Xinhua said in an English-language commentary.

"His wish will be fulfilled, since Beijing, the host of this forum, will undoubtedly receive the Japanese leader with etiquette and hospitality, despite chronic territorial rows and a historical feud with Tokyo," it said.

"However, that does not necessarily mean Abe's long-sought formal talks with Xi during APEC would come true, which demands Abe extend good faith and take real action to create the proper atmosphere."

But Japan has not made such efforts in bilateral ties, which have been constantly troubled by its attempts to wash off its war-time atrocities, Xinhua added.

Xinhua commentaries are not official government pronouncements, but can be read as a reflection of official thinking.

The commentary said that though bad ties benefited neither country, Japan had "launched a string of provocations" last month, including visits by government ministers to the Yasukuni Shrine, which China sees as a symbol of Japan's past militarism.

Yasukuni honors millions of war dead, including wartime leaders convicted as war criminals by an Allied tribunal.

"In short, it seems nothing more than a mere clumsy political stunt for the island country to advocate dialogue and fence-mending with neighbors on the one hand, while sticking to the bigoted course of fomenting strife and misgivings on the other," Xinhua added.

From China's Xinhua pours cold water on idea of Xi-Abe talks| Reuters

We'll see how it goes during the APEC meeting. I remain positive and hopeful.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

We'll see how it goes during the APEC meeting. I remain positive and hopeful.

I remain hopeful as well, but with Japanese - Chinese relations hope is about all we can have. Progress comes and goes too quickly between these nations. What is needed is for the leaders of each nation (Japan, China and South Korea) to stand up, address each others leadership (congress, parliament, committee, or what ever each has) and admit they F***** up. Each side is a problem in this issue, none is innocent and each needs to come to grips with the fact that this has gone on long enough and that peace and friendship is the best way forward. I remain hopeful, but I'm getting tied of having my hopes dashed.

 

[Cossack25A1]

One solution here is a compromise on the Japanese side - a compromise involving the Yasukuni shrine and the issues about the horrible acts the Japanese did during WW2 as China and South Korea see Japan haven't "sincerely" apologize about it, possibly something similar to the "Warschauer Kniefall" act made by some German Chancellor back in the 1970s.

 

[BoQ77]

It's regret that Xi doesn't want NEGO

 

[kyle Chiang]

Recently Haruki Murakami (famous Japanese writer) writes a article to criticize Japan's lacking sense of responsibility.
When two Germany presidents knelt down for apologize,people all around the world were moved and forgive them.But nowadays,Japan still keep enshrine and worship to those murderous war criminals and deny the comfort women issue.

Abe's diplomacy is always against China,such as initiating the diaoyu islands events,donating weapons and warships to the Philippines and Vietnam,instead of promoting negotiations .Abe enjoy hostility rather than cooperation because his right wing standpoint.

Action speaks louder than words.That's the best principle in Chinese politics.If Abe want to keep a good relations with China and help their companies developing in Chinese super market,he need do more,not say more.

But we also will endeavour to be friendly with Japan.In 21th century,we need each other to develop economic.

It's regret that Xi doesn't want NEGO

Hello,anti-China Viets.Good noon.

 

[BoQ77]

Abe's diplomacy is always against China,such as initiating the diaoyu islands events,donating weapons and warships to the Philippines and Vietnam,instead of promoting negotiations .Abe enjoy hostility rather than cooperation because his right wing standpoint.

I try to follow your logic :
- Donate weapon to PH, VN ( not really donate but give ODA ) : South Korea, USA, Russia, India, Japan
Why only Japan is against China? Russia too, South Korea too ...
Actually, weapon exchange is free, except they violated Chinese copyright.

That's why we don't say the same as Chinese said, when :
China "donate" weapon to Cambodia, North Korea

 

[kyle Chiang]

I try to follow your logic :
- Donate weapon to PH, VN ( not really donate but give ODA ) : South Korea, USA, Russia, India, Japan
Why only Japan is against China? Russia too, South Korea too ...
Actually, weapon exchange is free, except they violated Chinese copyright.

That's why we don't say the same as Chinese said, when :
China "donate" weapon to Cambodia, North Korea

Sorry ,you don't understand the "pertinence".In normal time,every country has the right to sell weapons as they need.But donating warships and weapons,when we are in the spot,is obviously for the disputes between China and these countries.Why don't Japan play a role in urging peace negotiations at that time?Because Abe put Japan in the standpoint that against China.

Such as your standpoint,whenever,whatever,wherever you see what about China.You will firstly choose the points against China instead of thinking deeply with survey or even trying to stand at Chinese site.Your head portrait and your prior words proved this.

Do you know the activity "Occupy Democracy" in London and how different between UK polices and HK polices in actions?Do you know 1.83 million HK citizens sigh a proposal to against this activity?And do you real understand the history in Diaoyu island?

 

[BoQ77]

Sorry ,you don't understand the "pertinence".In normal time,every country has the right to sell weapons as they need.But donating warships and weapons,when we are in the spot,is obviously for the disputes between China and these countries.Why don't Japan play a role in urging peace negotiations at that time?Because Abe put Japan in the standpoint that against China.

Such as your standpoint,whenever,whatever,wherever you see what about China.You will firstly choose the points against China instead of thinking deeply with survey or even trying to stand at Chinese site.Your head portrait and your prior words proved this.

Do you know the activity "Occupy Democracy" in London and how different between UK polices and HK polices in actions?Do you know 1.83 million HK citizens sigh a proposal to against this activity?And do you real understand the history in Diaoyu island?

do you really understand the history in Paracel and Spratlys islands ?
You would know why there's a need for a COC.

My support to Hongkong democracy, can't be considered as anti-China, except you consider Hongkongers are not Chinese.
Do you really know what's happening in Fuyou villages, Wukan village ... and hundred thousand of villages like those ?
I support the Chinese people. That's the truth.

PH has no air fighters, then they must get air fighters or they would be dominated by their enemies.
That's why every country has Ministry of Defence.
Any sale to them not always intends to anti-China. Except, you consider China as PH enemy.

Without Japan, US warships and aircrafts, Vietnam could buy them from Russia. Those sale also is not considered as anti-China, except you consider China as potential invader to Vietnam.

While you wonder why neighbor buy more weapon, let think about why China spent a huge state budget on weapons first.

We also never consider any country selling weapon to China at this moment as anti-Vietnam, anti-Japan, anti-PH, anti-India.

 

[Levina]

We'll see how it goes during the APEC meeting. I remain positive and hopeful.

Good that you're still sanguine about it.
But I think China is acting stubborn this time though demanding an apology from Japan is fine in my opinion.Claim over the islands should be solved using a third unbiased party.

One solution here is a compromise on the Japanese side - a compromise involving the Yasukuni shrine and the issues about the horrible acts the Japanese did during WW2 as China and South Korea see Japan haven't "sincerely" apologize about it, possibly something similar to the "Warschauer Kniefall" act made by some German Chancellor back in the 1970s.

Pardon my ignorance!
How is Yasukuni shrine related to WWII crimes??

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Pardon my ignorance!
How is Yasukuni shrine related to WWII crimes??

Lots of Japanese class A war criminal are enshrined there & worshiped even. Imagine this sort of thing in Germany there will be furor to say the least. This goes to show that Abe is not a pragmatist. That's why Justin Beiber needs to be the new Japanese Prime Minister.

Social media reacts to Justin Bieber's Yasukuni visit | The Japan Times

 

[Levina]

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I thought you would help me understand Yasukuni better

 

[Aepsilons]

I thought you would help me understand Yasukuni better

This topic was discussed in detail in another thread.

Progressive development in Yasukuni