Chinese president meets Vietnam Communist Party's chief in Beijing

[ChineseTiger1986]

Don't talk about culture. Huaxia is the one to copy culture of Baiyue and arrogate that is its culture. Han China is from Huaxia. Viet is from Baiyue. In other word, culture of China is from Viet.

Go back to school before talking something about culture on the world.

Huaxia is the central civilization in East Asia which is always being recognized by any scholar, you are the one should go back to school.

Dare you to challenge the common point of view?

 

[hoangsa]

Huaxia is the central civilization in East Asia which is always being recognized by any scholar ( which most of them are from China ), you are the one should go back to school.

Dare you to challenge the common point ( common point or Chinese point ) of view?

Ancient history of Asia is very vague and base on study of Chinese with its own Chinese document. Recently Western researchers have started to overturn the fact and raise up some intersting question like Richard J. Smith with Fathoming the Cosmos and Ordering the World: The Yijing (I-Ching, or Classic of Changes) and Its Evolution in China ...in near future some intersting points willbe shown...soon. Wait and see.
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[ChineseTiger1986]

Ancient history of Asia is very vague and base on study of Chinese with its own Chinese document. Recently Western researchers have started to overturn the fact and raise up some intersting question like Richard J. Smith with Fathoming the Cosmos and Ordering the World: The Yijing (I-Ching, or Classic of Changes) and Its Evolution in China ...in near future some intersting points willbe shown...soon. Wait and see.
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Fathoming the Cosmos and Ordering the World

I-Ching originated from Northern China, what it had anthing to do with Baiyue?

PS, stop lying about the heritage of Southern Chinese, we were Huaxia since the beginning, not Baiyue at all.

 

[Rechoice]

I-Ching originated from Northern China, what it had anthing to do with with Baiyue?

PS, stop lying about the heritage of Southern Chinese, we were Huaxia since the beginning, not Baiyue at all.

Sorry, you got a fake heritage. Huaxia is myth made by Chinese Emperor with intention to unify your big country. What is a truth of fact about the names like Woyue, Wenyue, jangyue, Nanyue... ?

 

[NoMoney]

I-Ching originated from Northern China, what it had anthing to do with with Baiyue?

PS, stop lying about the heritage of Southern Chinese, we were Huaxia since the beginning, not Baiyue at all.

1. I-Ching may invented by Southern people. in 8 element , it has' Dui ' . Dui means Swam (VNese call:' Đàm') , not lake. It has more Swam in the South than in the North . North people could not think Swam was so improtant and essential for them to add in 8 element.

2.If you have deeper research, you may find out more Bai Yue tribe in South China, that why, South CHinese have diffrent language with North Chinese

The Li nationality is the earliest of inhabitants on Hainan Island. Their ancestors were from Luo Yue, a branch of the Bai Yue nationality, migrating to Hainan Island 3000 years ago successively. The Miao nationality probably moved in from Guangxi and other places as the ordinary soldiers of the Ming Dynasty, and settled down in Hainan ever since. The Hui people mainly live in Sanya Phoenix Town, and many of their ancestors were from Zhancheng (Central and Southern areas of today's Vietnam) during the Song and Yuan Dynasties.

Chinese History | Hainan Ethnic Minorities

 

[Rechoice]

Taiwanese Embrace Own Identity as China-Born Ruling Party Celebrates Centennial
Ralph Jennings | Taipei



Photo: AP
Young performers participate in the national day celebrations of the centennial anniversary of the founding of the Republic of China government in Taipei, Taiwan, October 10, 2011.
Taiwan’s ruling Nationalist Party and the Republic of China that it created celebrate their 100-year anniversary this week. Some of the celebratory events were designed to remind Taiwanese people that the party, better known as the KMT, was born in China and still has roots there.
Despite the common ethnicity, most of Taiwan’s public says it no longer identifies with China.
A military parade in Taipei marks the day, October 11, when the KMT overthrew China’s Qing Dynasty to establish the republic, 100 years ago.

The party under strongman Chiang Kai-shek first came here in the 1940s after losing a civil war to Mao Zedong’s Communists. After arriving on the island, Chiang squelched use of the Taiwanese dialect and tried to sinofy the island’s aborigines.

Although many Taiwanese still follow traditional Chinese values dating back hundreds of years, many more are turning away from China. Taiwanese say they are embracing a unique local identity shaped in part by a blending of Taiwan’s generations and ethnic groups.

“To me that sort of racial or ethnic distinction has fallen to the wayside more and more with the younger generation, and what has replaced it is a sort of commonality in culture and style and sort of lifestyle,” said Jay Lin, a 38-year-old managing director of a Taiwanese television content distributor.

Beijing still claims sovereignty of Taiwan, lobbies against its efforts to be recognized as a country and tries to limit Taiwan’s role in international organizations, such as the United Nations. Lin says the tense ties are a part of the new local identity.

“I think a lot of Taiwanese have grown to sort of accept and absorb that as part of who they are," said Lin. "They’re not recognized by every single country in the world diplomatically, but life goes on. Work goes on. And relationships go on.”

This year a survey by the non-governmental Taiwan Thinktank reported that just 5.7 percent of the island’s 23 million people see China as home. Those who followed Chiang Kai-shek to Taiwan from China are aging, while their juniors eagerly absorb the languages and cultural quirks of longstanding local populations including Taiwanese aborigine tribes.

Tung Chen-Yuan, a professor of development studies National Chengchi University in Taipei, says the shift began at least 20 years ago.

“I think people in Taiwan gradually see differences between Taiwan and China, particularly in value differences such as freedom, human rights and democracy," said Tung. "In addition they also see a difference of lifestyle between Taiwan and China. So gradually they keep some distance in their identity from China.”

In 1992, Tung’s university reported 26 percent of Taiwanese citizens identified themselves as Chinese. Last year, the figure had dropped to just four percent.
Even the Nationalist party has changed its stance on Taiwanese identity. This week’s ceremonies included aborigine dancing. Taiwan’s President Ma Ying-jeou made remarks in the Taiwanese dialect.

Parliament speaker Wang Jin-pyng of the KMT says the duality is clear.

He says most common people on the island are beyond a doubt both Taiwanese and part of the Republic of China. Those include people who came from China itself, those born on the island to Chinese heritage, citizens of aboriginal ancestry and foreign immigrants.

But China is not just part of the KMT past.
The president used Monday’s anniversary speech to advocate that Taiwan not formally break away from China and instead work on improving trade ties with Beijing to seek gains from its huge economy.

 

[Contract Killer]

How to deal with South China Sea dispute

(1) Destroy all Vietnamese and Filipino island outposts and oil rigs and any navy ships in the area.

(2) If Vietnam and Philippines accept ceasefire, war ends here.

(3) If Vietnam or Philippines calls for US assistance, then China attacks their homeland with cruise missiles, taking out all critical infrastructure and leaving them in darkness and chaos without electricity, water, food, fuel, or financial system.

(4) By the time the US arrives on the scene, its allies will no longer care about some tiny reefs! Instead, Vietnam and Philippines will be begging for food, water and medicine.

(5) Now US has a dilemma, if it ignores its "allies" pleas for help and fights China, then it shows its true colors. If US expends all its effort supplying Vietnam and Philippines with food, water and medicine, then China wins by fait accompli.

Seriously.......... what's you age?

Thankgod......... all are not like him.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Sorry, you got a fake heritage. Huaxia is myth made by Chinese Emperor with intention to unify your big country. What is a truth of fact about the names like Woyue, Wenyue, jangyue, Nanyue... ?

Nope, my ancestor originated from the Hebei province back in 1000 years ago, and they had fled to South China because the Jin Dyanasty(Jurchen) have destroyed the Northern Song Dynasty.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

1. I-Ching may invented by Southern people. in 8 element , it has' Dui ' . Dui means Swam (VNese call:' Đàm') , not lake. It has more Swam in the South than in the North . North people could not think Swam was so improtant and essential for them to add in 8 element.

2.If you have deeper research, you may find out more Bai Yue tribe in South China, that why, South CHinese have diffrent language with North Chinese

Chinese History | Hainan Ethnic Minorities

Then why don't you apply for an application to make it as the property of your cultural heritage?

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Taiwanese Embrace Own Identity as China-Born Ruling Party Celebrates Centennial
Ralph Jennings | Taipei



Photo: AP
Young performers participate in the national day celebrations of the centennial anniversary of the founding of the Republic of China government in Taipei, Taiwan, October 10, 2011.
Taiwan’s ruling Nationalist Party and the Republic of China that it created celebrate their 100-year anniversary this week. Some of the celebratory events were designed to remind Taiwanese people that the party, better known as the KMT, was born in China and still has roots there.
Despite the common ethnicity, most of Taiwan’s public says it no longer identifies with China.
A military parade in Taipei marks the day, October 11, when the KMT overthrew China’s Qing Dynasty to establish the republic, 100 years ago.

The party under strongman Chiang Kai-shek first came here in the 1940s after losing a civil war to Mao Zedong’s Communists. After arriving on the island, Chiang squelched use of the Taiwanese dialect and tried to sinofy the island’s aborigines.

Although many Taiwanese still follow traditional Chinese values dating back hundreds of years, many more are turning away from China. Taiwanese say they are embracing a unique local identity shaped in part by a blending of Taiwan’s generations and ethnic groups.

“To me that sort of racial or ethnic distinction has fallen to the wayside more and more with the younger generation, and what has replaced it is a sort of commonality in culture and style and sort of lifestyle,” said Jay Lin, a 38-year-old managing director of a Taiwanese television content distributor.

Beijing still claims sovereignty of Taiwan, lobbies against its efforts to be recognized as a country and tries to limit Taiwan’s role in international organizations, such as the United Nations. Lin says the tense ties are a part of the new local identity.

“I think a lot of Taiwanese have grown to sort of accept and absorb that as part of who they are," said Lin. "They’re not recognized by every single country in the world diplomatically, but life goes on. Work goes on. And relationships go on.”

This year a survey by the non-governmental Taiwan Thinktank reported that just 5.7 percent of the island’s 23 million people see China as home. Those who followed Chiang Kai-shek to Taiwan from China are aging, while their juniors eagerly absorb the languages and cultural quirks of longstanding local populations including Taiwanese aborigine tribes.

Tung Chen-Yuan, a professor of development studies National Chengchi University in Taipei, says the shift began at least 20 years ago.

“I think people in Taiwan gradually see differences between Taiwan and China, particularly in value differences such as freedom, human rights and democracy," said Tung. "In addition they also see a difference of lifestyle between Taiwan and China. So gradually they keep some distance in their identity from China.”

In 1992, Tung’s university reported 26 percent of Taiwanese citizens identified themselves as Chinese. Last year, the figure had dropped to just four percent.
Even the Nationalist party has changed its stance on Taiwanese identity. This week’s ceremonies included aborigine dancing. Taiwan’s President Ma Ying-jeou made remarks in the Taiwanese dialect.

Parliament speaker Wang Jin-pyng of the KMT says the duality is clear.

He says most common people on the island are beyond a doubt both Taiwanese and part of the Republic of China. Those include people who came from China itself, those born on the island to Chinese heritage, citizens of aboriginal ancestry and foreign immigrants.

But China is not just part of the KMT past.
The president used Monday’s anniversary speech to advocate that Taiwan not formally break away from China and instead work on improving trade ties with Beijing to seek gains from its huge economy.

Even the Taiwanese separatists also believe that they are ethnically Huaxia, not Baiyue.

 

[happycanuck]

China, Vietnam sign accord on resolving maritime issues

English.news.cn 2011-10-12 01:04:04 FeedbackPrintRSS

Chinese President Hu Jintao, who is also general secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC), and General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam Central Committee Nguyen Phu Trong attend the signing ceremony of documents on bilateral cooperation in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 11, 2011. (Xinhua/Zhang Duo)



BEIJING, Oct. 12 (Xinhua) -- China and Vietnam on Tuesday signed an agreement on basic principles guiding the settlement of maritime issues existing between the two countries.

The six-point agreement is in accordance with the consensus reached by the leaders of China and Vietnam and is based on a 1993 agreement on basic principles for resolving territorial and border issues existing between the two countries, the agreement said.

The two countries should remain committed to friendly consultations in order to properly handle maritime issues and make the South China Sea a sea of peace, friendship and cooperation, the agreement said.

The agreement was signed by China's Vice Foreign Minister Zhang Zhijun and his Vietnamese counterpart Ho Xuan Son.

China and Vietnam should seek a basic and long-term approach that will be acceptable for both sides in solving maritime disputes on the basis of legislation and principles enshrined in international law, including the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea signed in 1982, the agreement said.

Both sides should fully respect legal principles, take history and other relevant issues into consideration and accommodate each other's concerns in a constructive manner, the agreement said.

In the process of negotiating maritime issues, both sides should abide by the agreements and consensus reached by the countries' senior leaders and implement the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC), the agreement said.

Both sides should solve maritime disputes through negotiations and friendly consultations, and the two countries should consult with other countries if they are also involved in the disputes, the agreement said.

While seeking a basic and long-term approach to resolve maritime issues, both sides should explore interim and temporary solutions, including research and negotiations on the joint development of the sea, without impacting each side's stance and position, the agreement said.

Both sides should seek steady progress in negotiations regarding the maritime demarcation of the baymouth of Beibu Gulf and discuss the joint development of the sea area, the agreement said.

Both sides should promote maritime cooperation in less sensitive fields, including marine environmental protection, scientific research, search and rescue, disaster reduction and prevention, the agreement said.

Heads of the border negotiation delegations of both countries should hold regular meetings twice a year, which will rotate between both countries, the agreement said, adding that special meetings will take place if necessary.

Both sides agreed to set up a hotline contact mechanism in order to allow them to promptly communicate and properly deal with maritime issues, the agreement said.

I am just curious about the timing of visit. Was this a planned visit before Indian Oil company was given two blocks to explore for oil?

One point of the agreement highlights that both side should promote maritime cooperation in less sensitive fields which leaves the right to explore for natural resources in open. I draw the conclusion that China is not willing to recognize Vietnams sovereignty over the Islands in dispute. What have both parties achieved other than postpone the issue till China strengthens its Navy? Is Vietnam not falling in to China's trap of so called harmonious co-existance?

 

[JohnyD]

How to deal with South China Sea dispute

(1) Destroy all Vietnamese and Filipino island outposts and oil rigs and any navy ships in the area.

(2) If Vietnam and Philippines accept ceasefire, war ends here.

(3) If Vietnam or Philippines calls for US assistance, then China attacks their homeland with cruise missiles, taking out all critical infrastructure and leaving them in darkness and chaos without electricity, water, food, fuel, or financial system.

(4) By the time the US arrives on the scene, its allies will no longer care about some tiny reefs! Instead, Vietnam and Philippines will be begging for food, water and medicine.

(5) Now US has a dilemma, if it ignores its "allies" pleas for help and fights China, then it shows its true colors. If US expends all its effort supplying Vietnam and Philippines with food, water and medicine, then China wins by fait accompli.

are you sleeping....are you sleeping...brother John....brother John..Morning Bells are ringing...Morning Bells are ringing..ding dang dong...ding dang dong..

now wake up...dream is over.

 

[rcrmj]

Don't talk about culture. Huaxia is the one to copy culture of Baiyue and arrogate that is its culture. Han China is from Huaxia. Viet is from Baiyue. In other word, culture of China is from Viet.

Go back to school before talking something about culture on the world.

try to convince world scholars about Chinese culture is from vietnam``lol,

now we see the depth vietcon's propaganda went to brainwash their poor citizens```i guess they beileve all their citizens are retard (as far as we observe it seems though)

 

[nontaibeo]

try to convince world scholars about Chinese culture is from vietnam``lol,

now we see the depth vietcon's propaganda went to brainwash their poor citizens```i guess they beileve all their citizens are retard (as far as we observe it seems though)

you are is one of the chinese [han's] looser! Don't you think?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

try to convince world scholars about Chinese culture is from vietnam``lol,

now we see the depth vietcon's propaganda went to brainwash their poor citizens```i guess they beileve all their citizens are retard (as far as we observe it seems though)

I've seen some sane Vietnamese before, but they are not some Internet warriors.

 

[nontaibeo]

I am just curious about the timing of visit. Was this a planned visit before Indian Oil company was given two blocks to explore for oil?

One point of the agreement highlights that both side should promote maritime cooperation in less sensitive fields which leaves the right to explore for natural resources in open. I draw the conclusion that China is not willing to recognize Vietnams sovereignty over the Islands in dispute. What have both parties achieved other than postpone the issue till China strengthens its Navy? Is Vietnam not falling in to China's trap of so called harmonious co-existance?

I think Vietnam very careful what they dealing with.