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China probes fatal shooting of unarmed traveller by police officerThe Chinese public has become uneasy about police officers’ newly granted power to carry guns and has questioned if they can use the weapon responsibly.
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A Chinese police training officer, right, guides a trainee during a weapons training session for officers in Haikou, in southern China's Hainan province. Newly granted power for normal Chinese police officers to carry a firearm, has raised calls for a full independent investigation, after a police officer killed an unarmed traveller in front of his elderly mother and three small children at a train station.

Published on May 12 2015
Didi TangTHE ASSOCIATED PRESS

BEIJING — China’s Public Security Ministry is investigating a shooting in which a police officer killed an unarmed traveller in front of his elderly mother and three small children at a train station, the ministry said Tuesday.

Rising calls for a full, independent investigation have followed the shooting as the public has become uneasy about the newly granted power for normal Chinese police officers to carry guns and has questioned if the police can use the lethal weapon responsibly.

Already, several shootings have occurred where the police use of guns was questioned but never fully accounted for.


“When authorities fail to provide rational explanations for pulling the trigger and to handle such cases in a fair and just way, police officers will continue to use their guns blindly, raising the risks that social tensions would only one day erupt uncontrollably,” said Zhao Chu, a Shanghai-based independent commentator, who says police violence can become habitual if it’s not adequately checked by law.

In the latest case, local railway police in the northeastern town of Qing’an said the officer opened fire after Xu Chunhe, 45, attacked the officer and tried to seize his gun.

But a clip of private video circulating online shows the officer using a long stick to beat Xu, who tried to dodge the blows and then tried to pull the stick away. A small child was heard asking the father not to fight but to go home.

Local authorities have yet to release the full surveillance footage of the May 2 shooting.

The ministry confirmed a state media report that it had dispatched a work team to Qing’an to gather evidence and witness accounts, and said it would release results later.

Following a deadly attack by members of the ethnic minority Uighurs at the train station in the southwestern city of Kunming last year, Beijing began to allow first-line patrol officers to carry firearms in a country where violent crimes also are on the rise accompanying intensifying social tensions.

However, the move has raised concerns over whether the newly trained patrol officers are responsible enough in the use of the deadly weapon. Experts worry that the gun training would focus too much on technical aspects, such as firing accuracy, and not enough on legal aspects, such as when to draw the gun.

Within months of the new decree, .

In one case last year, a villager upset with land compensations was shot 12 times after he showed up in front of the town government in a truck decorated with wreaths and banners. Police said the man posed an imminent threat when he waved a knife and tried to ram the vehicle into a crowd, although more than 100 witnesses signed a petition testifying that the man posed no threat and the gunshots were unnecessary. The official ruling has stood since then.

Xu’s death has once again roused the public with people demanding justifications for why police officer Li Lebin shot Xu in the heart.

Xie Yanyi, a lawyer for Xu’s family, said he believes the officer had no compelling reason to fatally shoot Xu and that he should be investigated on charges of murder.

Local authorities said Li came to the scene when Xu barred other travellers from checking into the station and that Xu swore at the officer.

“He boxed at the police officer, knocking off his cap,” police supervisor Zhao Dongbin told local media. “He said he would try to grab the gun . . . and it would have been unimaginable if he had seized the gun.”

Xu’s cousin, Xu Chunli, told local media the officer hit Xu so hard with the baton that Xu had blood on his head and face. Once Xu grabbed the baton, the officer pulled the gun, the cousin said.

The police account doesn’t say what prompted Xu to cause a scene at the station. The cousin said Xu grew upset when he and his family were prevented from boarding the train.

Impoverished and ill, Xu was trying to travel to Beijing to seek government assistance for his family, which would have drawn unwelcome scrutiny on the local government. It’s a common practice for local officials to intercept petitioners such as Xu.
The Toronto Star

This is quite sad an issue of abuse of authoritative power or excessive force for self defence.
 
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The Toronto Star

This is quite sad an issue of abuse of authoritative power or excessive force for self defence.
You do realize China is the land where people beat up the officers right.

I'll say this, without knowing all the facts, the officer probably had cause, but is it enough? Hard to say. Anybody that's been to China knows China needs more police not less.

When an officer asks you to do something, do it, if you feel it is wrong, you can sue later. At this particular moment in time, officers need more prestige and fear factor, but that will change as time goes on.
 
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为什么自诩为品质高尚的西方人会这么不诚实呢?你们了解整件事的经过吗?在人群密集的公共场所摔打小孩而且不听警察劝阻难道不该立刻制止吗?那么加拿大的邻居美国,国内警察屁大点事都向民众开枪你们加拿大媒体有没有报道说警察不应该警察违法警察侵犯民众合法权益?为什么西方媒体都喜欢作二皮脸呢?抹黑中国的伎俩能不能更无耻点儿?

中国警察部队拥有同样的价值以及美国和加拿大,它们帮助和保护的人民和保护国家安全。 但不同的是中国缺少的人权,他们可以做任何他们想要的对其公民打败、毒品、酷刑和杀了他们遵行法律。

You do realize China is the land where people beat up the officers right.

I'll say this, without knowing all the facts, the officer probably had cause, but is it enough? Hard to say. Anybody that's been to China knows China needs more police not less.

When an officer asks you to do something, do it, if you feel it is wrong, you can sue later. At this particular moment in time, officers need more prestige and fear factor, but that will change as time goes on.

Yes citizens are to respect and abide the law and not undermine the power of authority. However, China lacks fundamental human rights and values.

If their citizens feel they are being mistreated they have no course of legal actions or have legitimate human rights but instead are beaten, drug, torture and kill for backlash against the police and are seen as enemy of the state, CCP.

lol I guess this is not much of a shock to me because it happens in the US almost every week.

US is even worst. The police virtually will shoot at any Blackman.

What does the US have to do with this ? don't be so insecure China is the worst offender of human rights in the world :angel:
 
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中国警察部队拥有同样的价值以及美国和加拿大,它们帮助和保护的人民和保护国家安全。 但不同的是中国缺少的人权,他们可以做任何他们想要的对其公民打败、毒品、酷刑和杀了他们遵行法律。



Yes citizens are to respect and abide the law and not undermine the power of authority. However, China lacks fundamental human rights and values.

If their citizens feel they are being mistreated they have no course of legal actions or have legitimate human rights but instead are beaten, drug, torture and kill for backlash against the police and are seen as enemy of the state, CCP.





What does the US have to do with this ? don't be so insecure China is the worst offender of human rights in the world :angel:
So much of yr agenda? Worst offender of human right and no venue to fight for their right?

China is one of the most travel countries and most open for tourist. If you feel China is such a big offender of human right. China tourist wouldn't be even booming as too many tourist will witness the atrocities but is that the truth? As long as it's not government or military installation. You are free to visit anywhere u like in China and witness yr so called human right abuse.

And it's so funny of u accuse China has no venue or third parties to uphold justice if people abuse power? May I know where did u even get hold of the thread news? Internet? China is the most wired countries in the world. We have more user than US.

If any abuse happened and u have evidence which local parties failed to do justice for u. Post online. That is how many corrupted party member get their downfall. And China is doing a better job in upholding justice than US.
 
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This cop and his superiors are under investigation,it caused an uproar.And China does have bad human rights,only compared with the developed countries.
 
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In the US they will shoot the black in the back


While subdued and lying beneath,
the cop kept strangling as the guy struggles: i can't breath

You know the saying: everything you say or do will be used against you
Better heeded the warning or one may end up as Eric Garner too.

I know many innocent have done nothing wrong
Yet the cops won't hesitate and show you who is strong

Innocent, afraid and fleeing was the black
The cop did not care and shot the unarmed in the back

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中国警察部队拥有同样的价值以及美国和加拿大,它们帮助和保护的人民和保护国家安全。 但不同的是中国缺少的人权,他们可以做任何他们想要的对其公民打败、毒品、酷刑和杀了他们遵行法律。



Yes citizens are to respect and abide the law and not undermine the power of authority. However, China lacks fundamental human rights and values.

If their citizens feel they are being mistreated they have no course of legal actions or have legitimate human rights but instead are beaten, drug, torture and kill for backlash against the police and are seen as enemy of the state, CCP.





What does the US have to do with this ? don't be so insecure China is the worst offender of human rights in the world :angel:
呵呵,现在拿人权出来说了,那么就对比下中美,您能解释一下美国警察对美国国内的非白色人种尤其是黑人滥杀无辜吗?中国警察起码没有从背后向自己的国民开枪吧!中国对枪支的使用有严格的规定,即使是警察也不例外,多数经常在日常巡逻中是不带枪的,自近几年恐怖分子在火车站、机场等公共聚集场所制造恐怖袭击事件后这些重点场所的警察才开始随身配枪,这难道不是为了维护公民的人身安全和财产权益吗?
你看到的报道残缺不全,这个死者在候车厅里对一个小孩子行凶且不听警察制止,没有人能预料下一步将会发生什么不幸,这种情况下不果断采取行动难道不是警察渎职吗?任他对他人行凶才是维护人权吗?我不觉得开枪有什么不对,侵害他人合法权益,在公共场合引起恐慌的人必须为自己的行为付出代价!
 
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Chinese policeman did it, so it must be for a good reason. :tup:

There is a video on the shooting. The video will showed that the fight with the policeman went on for very long. The guy was basically beating up the policeman. One time he even pick up his own daughter and threw her to the ground. He continue to go after the police. Hit him with an iron rod. Even when the policeman drew his gun the policeman did not immediately shoot. The guy still went after the policeman who had his gun drawn. Finally the policeman open fire.
 
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中国警察部队拥有同样的价值以及美国和加拿大,它们帮助和保护的人民和保护国家安全。 但不同的是中国缺少的人权,他们可以做任何他们想要的对其公民打败、毒品、酷刑和杀了他们遵行法律。



Yes citizens are to respect and abide the law and not undermine the power of authority. However, China lacks fundamental human rights and values.

If their citizens feel they are being mistreated they have no course of legal actions or have legitimate human rights but instead are beaten, drug, torture and kill for backlash against the police and are seen as enemy of the state, CCP.





What does the US have to do with this ? don't be so insecure China is the worst offender of human rights in the world :angel:
Google translation is so crude
 
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呵呵,现在拿人权出来说了,那么就对比下中美,您能解释一下美国警察对美国国内的非白色人种尤其是黑人滥杀无辜吗?中国警察起码没有从背后向自己的国民开枪吧!中国对枪支的使用有严格的规定,即使是警察也不例外,多数经常在日常巡逻中是不带枪的,自近几年恐怖分子在火车站、机场等公共聚集场所制造恐怖袭击事件后这些重点场所的警察才开始随身配枪,这难道不是为了维护公民的人身安全和财产权益吗?
你看到的报道残缺不全,这个死者在候车厅里对一个小孩子行凶且不听警察制止,没有人能预料下一步将会发生什么不幸,这种情况下不果断采取行动难道不是警察渎职吗?任他对他人行凶才是维护人权吗?我不觉得开枪有什么不对,侵害他人合法权益,在公共场合引起恐慌的人必须为自己的行为付出代价!
In English, man, please respect all members in this forum.
 
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Like all the other China bashing news that you see, it is wise to let the news run for a while. Almost without exception that the rumors that those activist and lawyers spread on the internet would turn on totally fact less. These so called human right activist lawyer seek out and contact the victim and play with the victim head for their own political aims. They are no better than the ambulance chaser.

Chinese police officer who killed man at station cleared of wrongdoing - Yahoo News

23 hours ago

BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese police have cleared an officer of wrongdoing after he shot and killed a civilian earlier this month, state media reported on Thursday, in an incident that stirred outrage among many Chinese over what they saw as abuse of power.

The railway police of Harbin, the provincial capital of northeastern Heilongjiang province, said Li Lebin had shot Xu Chunhe "as part of his duty and Li did not violate protocol", state news agency Xinhua said.

Xu, 45, who was traveling with his 81-year-old mother and three children, "allegedly initiated the assault on Li and continued the attack despite multiple warnings before the police officer shot him", Xinhua said, citing the police.

Calls to the railway police of Harbin went unanswered.

Xinhua said that Xu had forcibly preventing passengers passing through the security gate at Qing'an Railway Station in Suihua city. When Li tried to stop him, Xu picked up a child and threw him at the police. After that, he tried to grab Li's gun and club, prompting Li to shoot Xu.

Internet users have expressed outrage on Weibo, China's version of Twitter, with many saying the shooting illustrates the widespread sense of impunity among police officers. The issue was among the most talked-about topics on Weibo on Thursday.

Such incidents could risk embarrassing China's ruling Communist Party, which is sensitive to rising public anger over official misdeeds.

Earlier on Thursday, state television CCTV broadcast security camera footage that showed Xu attacking the officer with a baton.

But the lawyer representing Xu's family, Xie Yanyi, rejected CCTV's version of events. Xie told Reuters by telephone that the video was edited to "demonize his client's morals". He said that Xu did hit the police officer and knock his child to the ground, as shown in the CCTV footage, but was not a threat to anyone besides the police.

"These circumstances do not meet the necessary and sufficient conditions for the legitimacy and necessity to shoot," Xie said.

"I still believe in the public's ability to judge. Despite a small number of people being persuaded by their (CCTV's) conspiracy, this will stand up to the test of time," he said.

On Wednesday, New York-based Human Rights Watch said that six years after China took steps to crack down on torture by police, detainees continue to be beaten, hanged by their wrists and shackled to iron chairs.

(Reporting by Sui-Lee Wee; Editing by Nick Macfie)
 
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