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how come every hindu survied for 900 years of muslim existance in Subcontinent ?
who stopped you not to seti your women?
who introduced Royal Culture?
who introduce divorce in your culture?
who help you to respect women? not to kill them on birth.
it was All muslims.
but you are very unthankful.
do one thing instead of answering me .. read history as much as you can. can you?
@Sheikh Rauf and @Gandhiv ....stop abusing religion guys... Both you guys need to be banned!
 
If get insulted its ur fault . Call me mohammad I be happy why u get upset by calling ramu.
You reap whay u sow.

ChennaiDusomeones t: 6357722 said:
@Sheikh Rauf and @Gandhiv ....stop abusing religion guys... Both you guys need to be banned!
Yeah when u call someones hero a looter and rapiest then u get the same reply.
No one have right to come to Pakistani forum and insult pakistanies and relgion.
Sorry sir atleast I wont let that happen.
Throw stone u will get brick back.
 
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no Hindu mythology is included in our history books, and when you are taking cheapshot please let me know was Muhamad raped 6 year or 9 year girl, I am still confused about that. And is this practice still thr in Pakistan is this legally allowed as arabic muhamad did this?



same is case with other maurya and gupa, maratha, sikh empire histories most of the historians are western not indians.


Stop lying. You've been reading too much of jihadwatch.

For your knowledge:

It is said that Hazrat Aisha was six years old when her nikah was performed with Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Makkah, and nine years old when she moved in to live with her husband in Madina after Hijra.

This piece of misinformation has led to the wrong view that child marriage has the sanction of Islam. It must be noted that establishing the authenticity of hadiths, the narrators’ circumstances and the conditions at that time have to be correlated with historical facts. There is only one hadith by Hisham which suggests the age of Hazrat Aisha as being nine when she came to live with her husband.

Many authentic hadiths also show that Hisham’s narration is incongruous with several historical facts about the Prophet’s life, on which there is consensus. With reference to scholars such as Umar Ahmed Usmani, Hakim Niaz Ahmed and Habibur Rehman Kandhulvi, I would like to present some arguments in favour of the fact that Hazrat Aisha was at least 18 years old when her nikah was performed and at least 21 when she moved into the Prophet’s house to live with him.

According to Umar Ahmed Usmani, in Surah Al-Nisa, it is said that the guardian of the orphans should keep testing them, until they reach the age of marriage, before returning their property (4:6). From this scholars have concluded that the Quran sets a minimum age of marriage which is at least puberty. Since the approval of the girl has a legal standing, she cannot be a minor.

Hisham bin Urwah is the main narrator of this hadith. His life is divided into two periods: in 131A.H. the Madani period ended, and the Iraqi period started, when Hisham was 71 years old. Hafiz Zehbi has spoken about Hisham’s loss of memory in his later period. His students in Madina, Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifah, do not mention this hadith. Imam Malik and the people of Madina criticised him for his Iraqi hadiths.

All the narrators of this hadith are Iraqis who had heard it from Hisham. Allama Kandhulvi says that the words spoken in connection with Hazrat Aisha’s age were tissa ashara, meaning 19, when Hisham only heard (or remembered), tissa, meaning nine. Maulana Usmani thinks this change was purposely and maliciously made later.

Historian Ibn Ishaq in his Sirat Rasul Allah has given a list of the people who accepted Islam in the first year of the proclamation of Islam, in which Hazrat Aisha’s name is mentioned as Abu Bakr’s “little daughter Aisha”. If we accept Hisham’s calculations, she was not even born at that time.

Some time after the death of the Prophet’s first wife, Hazrat Khadija, Khawla suggested to the Prophet that he get married again, to a bikrun, referring to Hazrat Aisha (Musnad Ahmed). In Arabic bikrun is used for an unmarried girl who has crossed the age of puberty and is of marriageable age. The word cannot be used for a six-year-old girl.

Some scholars think that Hazrat Aisha was married off so early because in Arabia girls mature at an early age. But this was not a common custom of the Arabs at that time. According to Allama Kandhulvi, there is no such case on record either before or after Islam. Neither has this ever been promoted as a Sunnah of the Prophet. The Prophet married off his daughters Fatima at 21 and Ruquiyya at 23. Besides, Hazrat Abu Bakr, Aisha’s father, married off his eldest daughter Asma at the age of 26.

Hazrat Aisha narrates that she was present on the battlefield at the Battle of Badar (Muslim). This leads one to conclude that Hazrat Aisha moved into the Prophet’s house in 1 A.H. But a nine-year-old could not have been taken on a rough and risky military mission.

In 2 A.H, the Prophet refused to take boys of less than 15 years of age to the battle of Uhud. Would he have allowed a 10-year-old girl to accompany him? But Anas reported that he saw Aisha and Umme Sulaim carrying goatskins full of water and serving it to the soldiers (Bukhari). Umme Sulaim and Umme Ammara, the other women present at Uhud, were both strong, mature women whose duties were the lifting of the dead and injured, treating their wounds, carrying water in heavy goatskins, supplying ammunition and even taking up the sword.

Hazrat Aisha used the kunniat, the title derived from the name of a child, of Umme Abdullah after her nephew and adopted son.

If she was six when her nikah was performed, she would have been only eight years his senior, hardly making him eligible for adoption. Also, a little girl could not have given up on ever having her own child and used an adopted child’s name for her kunniat.

Hazrat Aisha’s nephew Urwah once remarked that he was not surprised about her amazing knowledge of Islamic law, poetry and history because she was the wife of the Prophet and the daughter of Abu Bakr. If she was eight when her father migrated, when did she learn poetry and history from him?

There is consensus that Hazrat Aisha was 10 years younger than her elder sister Asma, whose age at the time of the hijrah, or migration to Madina, was about 28. It can be concluded that Hazrat Aisha was about 18 years old at migration. On her moving to the Prophet’s house, she was a young woman at 21. Hisham is the single narrator of the hadith whose authenticity is challenged, for it does not correlate with the many historical facts of the time.
 
you really need to read history, check Roman trade with India by sea route. Indians and Romans were trading 2000 years ago.

here start with this, I am pretty sure chinese like pakistanis has propoganda history written which makes you guys too incompetent to understand world history which is evident from the post many chinese/pakistani kids make here

Indo-Roman trade and relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
History light changes accumulate at any time,that's what I means.Both India and China have a great,long history for thousand years.

So,nowadays Indian territory is legal,and Chinese territory is legal,too.India take over large land and try her best to help her people live in happiness.China is doing that ,too.Therefore,saying Tibet don't belong to China is equal to that Indian territory is illegal. We shouldn't argue about that.We should respect each other.
 
History light changes accumulate at any time,that's what I means.Both India and China have a great,long history for thousand years.

So,nowadays Indian territory is legal,and Chinese territory is legal,too.India take over large land and try her best to help her people live in happiness.China is doing that ,too.Therefore,saying Tibet don't belong to China is equal to that Indian territory is illegal. We shouldn't argue about that.We should respect each other.


lol if chinese occupation of Tibet is legal then why the ruler of Tibet Dalai Lama is in India with all his Tibettan parliament in exile and why every now and then Tibettans are escaping to India? Its not legal and not acceptable and now you will never see Indian goverment accepting this chinese imperialism of once china policy.
 
What is a Chankya?

Chanakya was the teacher of Chandragupta Maurya, It was his great strategy led to unification of India under Maurya Empire and giving humiliating defeat to mighty Greeks. He was teaching as professor in Takshashila/Taxila and witnessed Alexander's invasion of India in 326BC. His two books are Nitishastra(book of laws/diplomacy) and Arthasashtra(book of economics).
He also ended Greek rule in the region now called Pakistan but still he is loathed by Pakistan as he is a nationalistic figure and hero for Indians. ;)

Before hinduism in subcontinent there were all buddist.. so technically it belongs to China..
right?

Wow, where you read this history. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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History light changes accumulate at any time,that's what I means.Both India and China have a great,long history for thousand years.

So,nowadays Indian territory is legal,and Chinese territory is legal,too.India take over large land and try her best to help her people live in happiness.China is doing that ,too.Therefore,saying Tibet don't belong to China is equal to that Indian territory is illegal. We shouldn't argue about that.We should respect each other.
What's your point respect each other?It's India occupying Chinese territory and Tibet a garbage everyone regarded as Chinese and we own this garbage just to through it to get own thing.
 
What's your point respect each other?It's India occupying Chinese territory and Tibet a garbage everyone regarded as Chinese and we own this garbage just to through it to get own thing.

China is occupying Indian land called Aksai Chin.
 
lol if chinese occupation of Tibet is legal then why the ruler of Tibet Dalai Lama is in India with all his Tibettan parliament in exile and why every now and then Tibettans are escaping to India? Its not legal and not acceptable and now you will never see Indian goverment accepting this chinese imperialism of once china policy.
Dalai Lama was sent by CCP and Mao to occupy even one city in India and now we know it named Dharmsala.

China is occupying Indian land called Aksai Chin.
So it's good there is no respect from each side respectively.
 
So it's good there is no respect from each side respectively.

You never had a control on Tibet from late 1800s to 1950, Qing Empire were planning to reconquer Tibet in 1910, and suddenly you came in 1950 and started claiming Indian land. Know your own history properly.
 
Dalai Lama was sent by CCP and Mao to occupy even one city in India and now we know it named Dharmsala.

Tibettans brother in Dharamsala will fight shoulder to shoulder with Indians to throw arrogant hans out from tibet, you premitives only deserve the strip you occupy near east asia coastline.
 
Tibettans brother in Dharamsala will fight shoulder to shoulder with Indians to throw arrogant hans out from tibet, you premitives only deserve the strip you occupy near east asia coastline.
If another "Nehru" do that,It means another war.
 

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