Chinese Navy calls for trust building with India

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Chinese Navy calls for trust building with India

Rear Admiral P. Ajit Kumar, Flag Officer Commanding Eastern Fleet, with Rear Admiral Shen Hao of the PLA Navy in Shanghai harbour. Photo: Ananth Krishnan

Four Indian naval ships arrive here on a rare port call

A top officer of the East Sea Fleet of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has called for improving trust with India and boosting exchanges, ahead of passage exercises between the two navies that will be held here on Saturday.

Rear Admiral Gu Xiangping, who is the Deputy Commander of the Chinese East Sea Fleet, called for “enhancing trust and understanding” between the militaries and navies of India and China, and increasing the frequency of interactions.

In what officials described as a reflection of the importance China has accorded to the visit of four Indian naval ships, which arrived here on a rare port call on Wednesday after stops in Singapore, Vietnam, the Philippines, South Korea and Japan, the PLAN dispatched the highest ranked official in charge of the East Sea fleet, Vice Admiral Su Zhiqian, from its headquarters in Ningbo. He held talks here with Vice Admiral Anil Chopra, Flag Officer Commanding in Chief of the Eastern Naval Command, who came in from India only for the port calls in China and Japan.

The visit of the Indian navy ships, which include the indigenous built guided missile stealth frigate Shivalik, destroyer Rana, corvette Karmuk and fleet tanker Shakti, has been described by the Indian and the Chinese officials as the highlight of defence exchanges this year.

The ships will head to Malaysia's Port Kelang on Saturday. The ships will hold passage exercises with the PLAN as they leave the Shanghai harbour on Saturday morning. While officials said the routine passage exercises were far removed from joint naval exercises, which India and China currently do not hold, they described the on-going visit as an important first step.

“We do not have the kind of familiarity or inter-operability as we do with the Americans or Japanese, so this kind of visit helps,” an officer said.

Vice Admiral Chopra said he welcomed more visits by the PLAN to build trust. “The friendship and cooperation between the Chinese navy and the Indian Navy is growing every year, and especially this year, which is being marked as the year of friendship and cooperation,” he said.

“The aim of this year is to increase exchanges between China and India so that there are no misunderstandings and we learn to cooperate and trust each other much more.”

“We were very happy when the Chinese navy ship visited Kochi [last month],” he added. “We are hopeful this year that more Chinese navy ships will come and visit India in different ports.”

His comments were echoed by Rear Admiral Gu, who said recent years had seen “sound and healthy development of friendship between the two militaries,” which would benefit both countries and the region.

He had “confidence” that this week's visit would “enhance mutual understanding and trust between China and India, and further the relationship between the two militaries, and particularly, the two navies.”

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[S10]

On a similar topic, they had army exercise going for two straight years. The exercise stopped for no apparent reason other than Indian media started posting boogeyman stories about China coming to "get" India. Funny thing is there was no major issue or dispute at all.

 

[sancho]

On a similar topic, they had army exercise going for two straight years. The exercise stopped for no apparent reason other than Indian media started posting boogeyman stories about China coming to "get" India. Funny thing is there was no major issue or dispute at all.

There are issues for sure, especially in regard to Chinese build up in Tibet which Indian forces had to react to, but that doesn't stop us to show China the benefits of deeper Indo - Chinese ties. As I often said, the political and economical relations between us are quiet good, but the historical distrust will only be fuelled by Chinese military actions and limited foresight of the political changes in the region / world.
It's not even your support to China that bothers us, Russia, Europe and the US have them too, but building up military against us pose a direct threat, you should have tried to build up better political relations of Asian countries and should have lead these efforts to counter US influence in the region. But sadly China is going the way the Sowiet Union did in the past, by threatening neighboring countries with it's military might and that will result in more and more countries getting closer to the US (see Philippines reaction now of PLANs offensive actions in the area now, by allowing the US to build new bases).
The US use this political failure of China to get India on their side as well, but India is different than these smaller countries and still, they know exactly what tactical impact it has to have Indias strategic location and defence capabilities during a war against China and therefor will keep offering us whatever they can and pushing their media propaganda. The question is, is China willing to counter the US by changing their policies against India?

 

[peaceful]

There are issues for sure, especially in regard to Chinese build up in Tibet which Indian forces had to react to, but that doesn't stop us to show China the benefits of deeper Indo - Chinese ties. As I often said, the political and economical relations between us are quiet good, but the historical distrust will only be fuelled by Chinese military actions and limited foresight of the political changes in the region / world.

As of today, india is still illegally occupying South Tibet. That is why we need to deploy more troops in the LOC. india should withdraw all its troops from South Tibet if it really want to have peace with China.

Kashmir is another hotspot in the region. india should dream that it can illegally control part of Kashmir and then expect China to do nothing.

It's not even your support to China that bothers us, Russia, Europe and the US have them too, but building up military against us pose a direct threat, you should have tried to build up better political relations of Asian countries and should have lead these efforts to counter US influence in the region.

You didn't see the problem here? You are basically lecturing people what to do. Can I ask why you are qualified to do so?

But sadly China is going the way the Sowiet Union did in the past, by threatening neighboring countries with it's military might and that will result in more and more countries getting closer to the US (see Philippines reaction now of PLANs offensive actions in the area now, by allowing the US to build new bases).

1. india fought several bloody wars with its neighbor Pakistan.
2. india fought the 1962 war with China.
3. india directly involved in Sri Lanka's civil war and got its own PM killed.
4. india is actively repressing its Muslim population at home and that led to the mumbai attack.

you tell me which country is more peaceful.

ever heard about Global Peace Index? india is way worse. time to wake up
Global Peace Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The US use this political failure of China to get India on their side as well, but India is different than these smaller countries and still, they know exactly what tactical impact it has to have Indias strategic location and defence capabilities during a war against China and therefor will keep offering us whatever they can and pushing their media propaganda. The question is, is China willing to counter the US by changing their policies against India?

dude, time to wake up from your wet dream.

1. US is not offering you anything. They are selling you products. You guys paid full listed price. don't be stupid.
2. Chinese don't see US/india alliance a thread, indian capital is 300km away from our border, within the range of our cheap rockets, the real question here is whether india wants to get involved and get wiped out.
3. China never had such against india policies -- sorry, but india is not important enough to let us have that.

 

[Joe Shearer]

A series of assertions strung together is a counter-argument? You find nothing hegemonic or overbearing in your attitude?

Perhaps you should understand that each time you use these discussions to let off steam, you convert some perfectly open-minded individual into a person who dislikes whatever you stand for.

I don't think the US could buy the kind of propaganda support you, individually, are giving it.

 

[sancho]

As of today...

Sadly you just try the usual blame game (which I have no interest in), instead of understanding my point and answering my question. Again, why use military power that threatens neighbors and pushing them in the hands of the US, instead easing problems with political efforts to counter US might and influence in Asia?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

A series of assertions strung together is a counter-argument? You find nothing hegemonic or overbearing in your attitude?

Perhaps you should understand that each time you use these discussions to let off steam, you convert some perfectly open-minded individual into a person who dislikes whatever you stand for.

I don't think the US could buy the kind of propaganda support you, individually, are giving it.

He going to be banned anyway, like every single time

 

[Joe Shearer]

What a horribly ill-mannered little punk.

 

[Diamond_Gold]

A series of assertions strung together is a counter-argument? You find nothing hegemonic or overbearing in your attitude?.

LOLOL here, taking what belongs to others is never considered as hegemonic and overbearingf in the indians' logic?

 

[jamesbaldwin]

The first picture with the Indian tanker parked behind the Indian stealth frigate-WOW!! India has come a long way, I blinked and I missed all this development! I remember when India used to get cast offs from our RN now look at the Indian navy, going by recent reports we will soon be getting ships from India!!

 

[S10]

There are issues for sure, especially in regard to Chinese build up in Tibet which Indian forces had to react to, but that doesn't stop us to show China the benefits of deeper Indo - Chinese ties. As I often said, the political and economical relations between us are quiet good, but the historical distrust will only be fuelled by Chinese military actions and limited foresight of the political changes in the region / world.
It's not even your support to China that bothers us, Russia, Europe and the US have them too, but building up military against us pose a direct threat, you should have tried to build up better political relations of Asian countries and should have lead these efforts to counter US influence in the region. But sadly China is going the way the Sowiet Union did in the past, by threatening neighboring countries with it's military might and that will result in more and more countries getting closer to the US (see Philippines reaction now of PLANs offensive actions in the area now, by allowing the US to build new bases).
The US use this political failure of China to get India on their side as well, but India is different than these smaller countries and still, they know exactly what tactical impact it has to have Indias strategic location and defence capabilities during a war against China and therefor will keep offering us whatever they can and pushing their media propaganda. The question is, is China willing to counter the US by changing their policies against India?

The so called "built up" is non-sense. Since the 1960's, the number of troops permanently stationed in Tibet has been on the decline. There are only 3 border defence regiment, a communication battalion, and an air regiment stationed there. Again, your media is hyping the supposed "build up" despite evidence to the contrary. The only reason we became more visible is because we now have vehicles and helicopters to help troops patrol the border as opposed to foot patrol.

China has been pursuing the right policy, and your so called "threatening" neighbors is way off. Aside from India, Japan, Vietnam and Philippines, we enjoy decent relationship with all bordering countries. Philippines and Japan had always been American puppets, so we didn't "push" them anywhere. Vietnam over the past thousand years had been weary of China, so that's an inherited problem from older dynasties rather than anything we created. As far as India goes, it's Nehru's forward policy that led to the war. He played with fire and got burned. We didn't take an inch of land and returned all your equipments after our victory.

Contrary to what you might believe, I think China has been too soft on foreign policy, a sentiment shared by most Chinese. And no, we're not going the way of Soviet Union. Our military spending is less than 2% of our GDP, which should be higher if up to me.

 

[perplexed]

The so called "built up" is non-sense. Since the 1960's, the number of troops permanently stationed in Tibet has been on the decline. There are only 3 border defence regiment, a communication battalion, and an air regiment stationed there. Again, your media is hyping the supposed "build up" despite evidence to the contrary. The only reason we became more visible is because we now have vehicles and helicopters to help troops patrol the border as opposed to foot patrol.

China has been pursuing the right policy, and your so called "threatening" neighbors is way off. Aside from India, Japan, Vietnam and Philippines, we enjoy decent relationship with all bordering countries. Philippines and Japan had always been American puppets, so we didn't "push" them anywhere. Vietnam over the past thousand years had been weary of China, so that's an inherited problem from older dynasties rather than anything we created. As far as India goes, it's Nehru's forward policy that led to the war. He played with fire and got burned. We didn't take an inch of land and returned all your equipments after our victory.

Contrary to what you might believe, I think China has been too soft on foreign policy, a sentiment shared by most Chinese. And no, we're not going the way of Soviet Union. Our military spending is less than 2% of our GDP, which should be higher if up to me.

How about threatening the in-existent Philippine navy with an armada ? China was forcefully trying to establish those shoals as theirs although it is at a stone throw's distance of phillipines.. that is some hegemony u ppl have up your sleeves

 

[shuttler]

How about threatening the in-existent Philippine navy with an armada ? China was forcefully trying to establish those shoals as theirs although it is at a stone throw's distance of phillipines.. that is some hegemony u ppl have up your sleeves

distance is not the single determinant factor to the sovereignty of a territory! retard!
if I park my car at a public parking space close by your house doesnt mean my car is yours!

 

[notsuperstitious]

distance is not the single determinant factor to the sovereignty of a territory! retard!
if I park my car at a public parking space close by your house doesnt mean my car is yours!

So where does China normally park the shoals, when they are not temporarily parking them next to Phillipines?

 

[anon45]

Lol China basically claims an Indian state as its own and it calls for trust building?