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Range of China's DF-21D Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile (ASBM)
[Note: Thank you to EastWind for the picture.]
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US Naval War College: China's DF-21D ASBM costs $5 to $10.5 million per missile
A Chinese DF-21D ASBM costs only $5 to $10.5 million. China can afford to build hundreds of them.
Out of the 100 DF-21D ASBMs fired at a single aircraft carrier, China only needs one or two hits to achieve a "soft kill" (e.g. knocked out of combat). If there are more impacts, the carrier might sink.
I have suggested China may fire 100 DF-21D ASBMs to arrive near-simultaneously and attack an aircraft carrier. However, is this economically feasible? As shown in the citation below, each DF-21D ASBM costs between $5 to $10.5 million per missile.
We'll pick the upper range and say each DF-21D ASBM costs $10 million. A bombardment of 100 DF-21D ASBMs will cost a total of $1 billion. This is a cost-effective way to attack a $5 billion aircraft carrier.
Anyway, in a war, costs don't really matter. China will attempt to sink the aircraft carrier with sufficient numbers of DF-21D ASBMs regardless of cost.
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From the third page at the following link from the US Naval War College:
http://www.usnwc.edu/getattachment/...9d27/The-Strategic-Implications-of-Obscurants
"While it is problematic to estimate accurately the cost of the DF-21, sources place the unit price, in U.S. currency, between $5,000,000 and $10,500,000 per missile.[7] This seems a reasonable estimate in light of the cost of a similar weapon, the U.S. Pershing II, which adjusted for inflation would be roughly twelve million dollars per missile. In comparison, the ballistic-missile-defense-capable SM-3 costs roughly ten million dollars per missile. At first blush, the nearly equal prices of interceptor (SM-3) and ASBM (DF-21) suggest near parity in cost ratio, but a “shoot two to kill one” doctrine means a differential of nearly ten million dollars per exchange. However, even this is misleading, as the launch platform—essentially a big truck—of the DF-21 is far less expensive than that of the SM-3, a warship. This estimate also ignores the operational and developmental challenges of intercepting an ASBM; nor does it fold in the things like purchasing power disparity, labor costs, and government controls, which all favor China. Nonetheless, this simple cost comparison is striking."
[Note: Thank you to EastWind for the picture.]
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US Naval War College: China's DF-21D ASBM costs $5 to $10.5 million per missile
A Chinese DF-21D ASBM costs only $5 to $10.5 million. China can afford to build hundreds of them.
Out of the 100 DF-21D ASBMs fired at a single aircraft carrier, China only needs one or two hits to achieve a "soft kill" (e.g. knocked out of combat). If there are more impacts, the carrier might sink.
I have suggested China may fire 100 DF-21D ASBMs to arrive near-simultaneously and attack an aircraft carrier. However, is this economically feasible? As shown in the citation below, each DF-21D ASBM costs between $5 to $10.5 million per missile.
We'll pick the upper range and say each DF-21D ASBM costs $10 million. A bombardment of 100 DF-21D ASBMs will cost a total of $1 billion. This is a cost-effective way to attack a $5 billion aircraft carrier.
Anyway, in a war, costs don't really matter. China will attempt to sink the aircraft carrier with sufficient numbers of DF-21D ASBMs regardless of cost.
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From the third page at the following link from the US Naval War College:
http://www.usnwc.edu/getattachment/...9d27/The-Strategic-Implications-of-Obscurants
"While it is problematic to estimate accurately the cost of the DF-21, sources place the unit price, in U.S. currency, between $5,000,000 and $10,500,000 per missile.[7] This seems a reasonable estimate in light of the cost of a similar weapon, the U.S. Pershing II, which adjusted for inflation would be roughly twelve million dollars per missile. In comparison, the ballistic-missile-defense-capable SM-3 costs roughly ten million dollars per missile. At first blush, the nearly equal prices of interceptor (SM-3) and ASBM (DF-21) suggest near parity in cost ratio, but a “shoot two to kill one” doctrine means a differential of nearly ten million dollars per exchange. However, even this is misleading, as the launch platform—essentially a big truck—of the DF-21 is far less expensive than that of the SM-3, a warship. This estimate also ignores the operational and developmental challenges of intercepting an ASBM; nor does it fold in the things like purchasing power disparity, labor costs, and government controls, which all favor China. Nonetheless, this simple cost comparison is striking."
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Range of China's DF-21D Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile (ASBM)
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Notice that the range of the DF-21D allows China to cover everything from the Arabian Sea to the Strait of Malacca.
I'm sure India notices.
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this post from the sinodefenceforum ,thanks for escobar
http://www.*********************/st...-ballistic-missiles-nuclear-arms-31-5881.html
Chinese DongFeng series of ballistic missile: DongFeng-1
Nothing to say, it's the first ballistic missile made by Chinese ppl, related sources from USSR P-2 missile. DongFeng-1 ballistic missile successfully launched at 1960.11.05.But DongFeng-1 didn't have the chance to serve in PLA, after related test DongFeng-1 walked into museum. DongFeng-1 is the beginner of Chinese domestic ballistic missile industry, China trained missile designers through building DongFeng-1 ballistic missile in 1960s.
DongFeng-1 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 1 (DF-1)
Service status: test missile, no deployment
Configuration: Single-stage, liquid propellant
Deployment: on towed trailer
Length: 17.68m
Body diameter: 1.65m
Launch weight: 20,400kg
Range: 600km
Re-entry vehicle mass: 1,300kg
Accuracy: unknown
Launch preparation time: unknown
The DongFeng 2 (NATO code name: CSS-1)
The DongFeng 2 (NATO code name: CSS-1) is a single-stage, liquid-propellant, road-mobile, medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) developed by the Ministry of Defence 5th Academy (now China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, CALT). The DongFeng 2 is China’s first indigenously developed ballistic missile. The development of the DongFeng 2 began in the late 1950s. The DongFeng 2 development encountered some serious difficulties due to Soviet Union’s withdrawal of its technical assistance in 1960. The first test launch of the DongFeng 2 in March 1962 failed. The redesigned DongFeng 2A was successfully launched on 29 June 1964. On 27 December 1966, a DongFeng 2A missile carrying a 12kT atomic warhead was launched from Jiuquan and the missile hit the target in Lop Nor 800km away. The DongFeng 2A entered operational service with the PLA in the late 1960s, and was completely retired from active duty in the early 1980s.
DongFeng-2 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 2 (DF-2)
NATO reporting name: CSS-1
Contractor: MND 5th Academy
Service status: Retired
Configuration: Single-stage, liquid propellant
Deployment: Road-mobile on towed trailer
Length: 20.61m
Body diameter: 1.65m
Wingspan: 2.13m
Launch weight: 31,900kg
Range: 1,250km
Re-entry vehicle mass: 1,500kg
Accuracy: CEP 4,000m
Launch preparation time: 120~180 min
http://www.*********************/st...-ballistic-missiles-nuclear-arms-31-5881.html
Chinese DongFeng series of ballistic missile: DongFeng-1
Nothing to say, it's the first ballistic missile made by Chinese ppl, related sources from USSR P-2 missile. DongFeng-1 ballistic missile successfully launched at 1960.11.05.But DongFeng-1 didn't have the chance to serve in PLA, after related test DongFeng-1 walked into museum. DongFeng-1 is the beginner of Chinese domestic ballistic missile industry, China trained missile designers through building DongFeng-1 ballistic missile in 1960s.
DongFeng-1 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 1 (DF-1)
Service status: test missile, no deployment
Configuration: Single-stage, liquid propellant
Deployment: on towed trailer
Length: 17.68m
Body diameter: 1.65m
Launch weight: 20,400kg
Range: 600km
Re-entry vehicle mass: 1,300kg
Accuracy: unknown
Launch preparation time: unknown
The DongFeng 2 (NATO code name: CSS-1)
The DongFeng 2 (NATO code name: CSS-1) is a single-stage, liquid-propellant, road-mobile, medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) developed by the Ministry of Defence 5th Academy (now China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, CALT). The DongFeng 2 is China’s first indigenously developed ballistic missile. The development of the DongFeng 2 began in the late 1950s. The DongFeng 2 development encountered some serious difficulties due to Soviet Union’s withdrawal of its technical assistance in 1960. The first test launch of the DongFeng 2 in March 1962 failed. The redesigned DongFeng 2A was successfully launched on 29 June 1964. On 27 December 1966, a DongFeng 2A missile carrying a 12kT atomic warhead was launched from Jiuquan and the missile hit the target in Lop Nor 800km away. The DongFeng 2A entered operational service with the PLA in the late 1960s, and was completely retired from active duty in the early 1980s.
DongFeng-2 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 2 (DF-2)
NATO reporting name: CSS-1
Contractor: MND 5th Academy
Service status: Retired
Configuration: Single-stage, liquid propellant
Deployment: Road-mobile on towed trailer
Length: 20.61m
Body diameter: 1.65m
Wingspan: 2.13m
Launch weight: 31,900kg
Range: 1,250km
Re-entry vehicle mass: 1,500kg
Accuracy: CEP 4,000m
Launch preparation time: 120~180 min
The DongFeng-3 (DF-3, NATO designation: CSS-2).
The DF-3 is China’s first operational intermediate-range ballistic missile. The missile is a single-stage, liquid-propellant design carrying a single nuclear warhead.The DongFeng-3 (DF-3, NATO designation: CSS-2) is a single-warhead, single-stage, liquid-propellant, intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM). Developed in the 1960, it is China's first independently developed ballistic missile. The DF-3A is the improved variant with extended range developed in the early 1980s. A total of 150~200 DF-3/3A missiles are believed to have been deployed, with 30~40 remaining in service today.
DongFeng-3 specifications:
Configuration: Single stage liquid
Length: 21.2m
Diameter: 2.25m
Launch Weight: 64,000kg
Propellant: Liquid fuel (Unsymmetrical Dimethylhydrazine/Nitrogen Tetroxide mix [UDMH/N2H4])
Guidance: Inertial
Range: 2,500km (DF-3); 2,800km (DF-3A)
Deployment: Launch pad + road mobile
Re-entry Vehicle Mass: 2,150kg
Warhead: Single 1,000~3,000kT
CEP: 2,000~3,000m (DF-3); 1,000m (DF-3A)
Launch Preparation Time: 120~180 min
The DF-3 is China’s first operational intermediate-range ballistic missile. The missile is a single-stage, liquid-propellant design carrying a single nuclear warhead.The DongFeng-3 (DF-3, NATO designation: CSS-2) is a single-warhead, single-stage, liquid-propellant, intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM). Developed in the 1960, it is China's first independently developed ballistic missile. The DF-3A is the improved variant with extended range developed in the early 1980s. A total of 150~200 DF-3/3A missiles are believed to have been deployed, with 30~40 remaining in service today.
DongFeng-3 specifications:
Configuration: Single stage liquid
Length: 21.2m
Diameter: 2.25m
Launch Weight: 64,000kg
Propellant: Liquid fuel (Unsymmetrical Dimethylhydrazine/Nitrogen Tetroxide mix [UDMH/N2H4])
Guidance: Inertial
Range: 2,500km (DF-3); 2,800km (DF-3A)
Deployment: Launch pad + road mobile
Re-entry Vehicle Mass: 2,150kg
Warhead: Single 1,000~3,000kT
CEP: 2,000~3,000m (DF-3); 1,000m (DF-3A)
Launch Preparation Time: 120~180 min
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Dong Feng 3 is BADASS!! 
The DongFeng 4 (NATO reporting name: CSS-3)
The DongFeng 4 (NATO reporting name: CSS-3) liquid-propellant, two-stage intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) was developed by the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT, also known as 1st Space Academy) in the 1960s. The missile entered operational service in the early 1980s, with approximately 20 missiles (2008 Pentagon report) currently deployed by the PLA Second Artillery Corps. The DongFeng 4 was also used to develop PRC’s first space launch vehicle Changzheng 1 (Long March 1), which sent the country’s first satellite into the orbit in 1970.
DongFeng-4 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 4 (DF-4)
NATO reporting name: CSS-3
Contractor: China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT)
Service status: In service
Configuration: Two-stage, liquid propellant
Deployment: Silo and semi-mobile (towed trailer)
Propellant: Unsymmetrical Dimethylhydrazine/Nitrogen Tetroxide mix (UDMH/N2H4)
Length: 28m
Diameter: 2.25m
Launch weight: 82,000kg
Range: 4,750km
Re-entry vehicle mass: 2,200kg
Warhead: Single, 1,000~3,000kT yield thermalnuclear
Guidance: Inertial
Accuracy: CEP 1,500m
Launch preparation time: 3~5 hours (mobile), or 2~3 hours (silo)
The DongFeng 4 (NATO reporting name: CSS-3) liquid-propellant, two-stage intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) was developed by the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT, also known as 1st Space Academy) in the 1960s. The missile entered operational service in the early 1980s, with approximately 20 missiles (2008 Pentagon report) currently deployed by the PLA Second Artillery Corps. The DongFeng 4 was also used to develop PRC’s first space launch vehicle Changzheng 1 (Long March 1), which sent the country’s first satellite into the orbit in 1970.
DongFeng-4 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 4 (DF-4)
NATO reporting name: CSS-3
Contractor: China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT)
Service status: In service
Configuration: Two-stage, liquid propellant
Deployment: Silo and semi-mobile (towed trailer)
Propellant: Unsymmetrical Dimethylhydrazine/Nitrogen Tetroxide mix (UDMH/N2H4)
Length: 28m
Diameter: 2.25m
Launch weight: 82,000kg
Range: 4,750km
Re-entry vehicle mass: 2,200kg
Warhead: Single, 1,000~3,000kT yield thermalnuclear
Guidance: Inertial
Accuracy: CEP 1,500m
Launch preparation time: 3~5 hours (mobile), or 2~3 hours (silo)
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PäkPõwér;3292733 said:Dong Feng 3 is BADASS!!
It's 3.3 megatons of thermonuclear badass per DF-3A warhead.
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Chinese DF-3A 3.3-megaton IRBM
Contrary to the exultation in the Indian media, I believe the development of the Agni V increases the danger to all Indians. Basically, it makes all Indians less safe and more likely to become extinct. Here's why.
Citation: Securing India's Future in the New Millennium - Brahma Chellaney, Centre for Policy Research (New Delhi, India) - Google Books
"Brahma Chellaney, Centre for Policy Research (New Delhi, India) - 1999 - History - 612 pages
China's missile choices against India include the DF 3 and DF 3A, armed with a 3.3-megaton thermonuclear warhead and capable of hitting targets up to 2800 ..."
China has a multitude of IRBMs with thermonuclear 3.3 megaton warheads that can easily obliterate an entire Indian city with a single blast.
In contrast, a 20 kiloton atomic warhead delivered by an Agni V (that survives China's missile defenses) causes relatively minor damage.
The impudence of Indians to trumpet their "China killer" and if they are actually stupid enough to launch one at a major Chinese city will bring terrible retribution. China can legitimately claim India has used a Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against Chinese civilians and choose to respond in kind.
Unfortunately for Indians, China will destroy every major and minor Indian city to drive home the message that the use of a WMD against a Chinese city means self-genocide for dumb Indians.
The bottom line is you do not threaten the world's third-largest thermonuclear power that possesses the most advanced W-88 warhead design and delivery vehicles. Crazy Indians with puny atomic weapons (which are roughly 1/100 as powerful as a similarly-sized hydrogen bomb) are asking for trouble and seeking their own self-extinction.
Yes, it is true you might successfully atomic nuke a few city blocks in a few Chinese cities. In response, we will thermonuke all of India and take your subcontinent as payment. The Indian capability to inflict limited damage upon Chinese cities will force China to fight India at full thermonuclear power. At last check, China had a minimum of 294 megatons and God knows how many more in 5,000km of underground tunnels.
Also, China can now legitimately claim that India poses a serious threat to its national security. China may choose to launch a preemptive strike (citing the Bush doctrine) against India at any time. In conclusion, I think the development of the Agni V is a detriment to Indian security and existence.
http://www.crf-usa.org/war-in-iraq/bush-doctrine.html
"The Bush Doctrine The Iraq War [or China's War Against India] may only be the beginning of an ambitious American [Chinese] strategy to confront dangerous [Indian] regimes and expand democracy [Chinese national security] in the ..."
The Dong Feng-5 (DF-5, NATO codename: CSS-4) is China’s first intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM).
Developed by China Academy of Launch Vehicle (CALT, also known as 1st Aerospace Academy), it is a silo-based, two-stage, liquid propellant ballistic missile. The missile carries a single 3 megatons nuclear warhead and has an effective range of 12,000km. The DF-5A is the improved variant with an extended range. The PLA currently deploys approximately 24~36 of this missile deployed in central China.
DongFeng-5 specifications:
Configuration: Two stage liquid
Length: 33m
Diameter: 3.4m
Launch Weight: 183,000kg
Propellant: Liquid fuel (Unsymmetrical Dimethylhydrazine/Nitrogen Tetroxide mix [UDMH/N2H4])
Guidance: Inertial with onboard computer
Range: 12,000km (DF-5); >13,000km (DF-5A)
Deployment: Silo and launch pad
Re-entry Vehicle Mass: ~3,000kg
Warhead: Single 3,000~5,000kT
CEP: ~1,000m
Launch Preparation Time: 120 min (mobile), or 45~60 min (in silo)
Developed by China Academy of Launch Vehicle (CALT, also known as 1st Aerospace Academy), it is a silo-based, two-stage, liquid propellant ballistic missile. The missile carries a single 3 megatons nuclear warhead and has an effective range of 12,000km. The DF-5A is the improved variant with an extended range. The PLA currently deploys approximately 24~36 of this missile deployed in central China.
DongFeng-5 specifications:
Configuration: Two stage liquid
Length: 33m
Diameter: 3.4m
Launch Weight: 183,000kg
Propellant: Liquid fuel (Unsymmetrical Dimethylhydrazine/Nitrogen Tetroxide mix [UDMH/N2H4])
Guidance: Inertial with onboard computer
Range: 12,000km (DF-5); >13,000km (DF-5A)
Deployment: Silo and launch pad
Re-entry Vehicle Mass: ~3,000kg
Warhead: Single 3,000~5,000kT
CEP: ~1,000m
Launch Preparation Time: 120 min (mobile), or 45~60 min (in silo)
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The DongFeng 11 (Export name: M-11; NATO codename: CSS-7)
The DongFeng 11 (Export name: M-11; NATO codename: CSS-7) is a road-mobile, single-stage, short-range ballistic missile (SRBM) system developed by CASIC Sanjiang Space Group (also known as Base 066) located in Hubei Province. The missile and its 8-wheeled transporter-erector-launcher (TEL) vehicle bear some resemblance to the Russian SS-1C Scud-B. The DongFeng 11 was developed in the 1980s intended for the export market. An improved variant DongFeng 11A with extended range and greater accuracy was fielded by the PLA ground forces in 1999.
DongFeng-11 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 11 (DF-11)
Export name: M-11
NATO reporting name: CSS-7
Contractor: CASIC Sanjiang Space Group (Base 066)
Service status: In service
Configuration: Single-stage, solid propellant
Deployment: Road mobile, 6X6 tractor truck + six-wheel trailer; or silo
Length: 7.5m (DF-11); 8.5m (DF-11A)
Diameter: 0.8m
Launch weight: 4,200kg
Warhead: 500kg HE
Range: 280~350km (DF-11); >500km (DF-11A)
Accuracy: CEP 500~600m (DF-11); <200m (DF-11A)
Launch preparation time: 15~30 min
The DongFeng 11 (Export name: M-11; NATO codename: CSS-7) is a road-mobile, single-stage, short-range ballistic missile (SRBM) system developed by CASIC Sanjiang Space Group (also known as Base 066) located in Hubei Province. The missile and its 8-wheeled transporter-erector-launcher (TEL) vehicle bear some resemblance to the Russian SS-1C Scud-B. The DongFeng 11 was developed in the 1980s intended for the export market. An improved variant DongFeng 11A with extended range and greater accuracy was fielded by the PLA ground forces in 1999.
DongFeng-11 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 11 (DF-11)
Export name: M-11
NATO reporting name: CSS-7
Contractor: CASIC Sanjiang Space Group (Base 066)
Service status: In service
Configuration: Single-stage, solid propellant
Deployment: Road mobile, 6X6 tractor truck + six-wheel trailer; or silo
Length: 7.5m (DF-11); 8.5m (DF-11A)
Diameter: 0.8m
Launch weight: 4,200kg
Warhead: 500kg HE
Range: 280~350km (DF-11); >500km (DF-11A)
Accuracy: CEP 500~600m (DF-11); <200m (DF-11A)
Launch preparation time: 15~30 min
The DongFeng 15 (Export name: M-9; NATO codename: CSS-6)
The DongFeng 15 (Export name: M-9; NATO codename: CSS-6) is a solid-fuel, short-range ballistic missile (SRBM) system developed by CASC China Academy of Rocket Motor Technology (ARMT, also known as 4th Space Academy). The missile became famous during the 1996 Taiwan Strait crisis when the PLA launched several missiles as a warning to Taiwan’s independent trend. It is the only non-nuclear missile in service with the PLA Second Artillery Corps (strategic missile force). The improved variants DongFeng 15B and DongFeng 15C were spotted in service with the PLA recently.
DongFeng-15 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 15 (DF-15)
Export name: M-9
NATO reporting name: CSS-6
Contractor: CASIC 4th Academy
Service status: In service
Configuration: Single-stage (DF-15) or two-stage (DF-15B, DF-15C), solid propellant
Deployment: Road mobile, 6X6 tractor truck + six-wheel trailer; or silo
Length: 9.1m (DF-15)
Diameter: 1.0m
Launch weight: 6,200kg
Warhead: 500kg HE
Range: 600km (DF-15)
Guidance: Inertial + GPS
Accuracy: CEP 150~500m; or 30~50m on the later variants
Launch preparation time: 15~30 min
The DongFeng 15 (Export name: M-9; NATO codename: CSS-6) is a solid-fuel, short-range ballistic missile (SRBM) system developed by CASC China Academy of Rocket Motor Technology (ARMT, also known as 4th Space Academy). The missile became famous during the 1996 Taiwan Strait crisis when the PLA launched several missiles as a warning to Taiwan’s independent trend. It is the only non-nuclear missile in service with the PLA Second Artillery Corps (strategic missile force). The improved variants DongFeng 15B and DongFeng 15C were spotted in service with the PLA recently.
DongFeng-15 specifications:
Official name: DongFeng 15 (DF-15)
Export name: M-9
NATO reporting name: CSS-6
Contractor: CASIC 4th Academy
Service status: In service
Configuration: Single-stage (DF-15) or two-stage (DF-15B, DF-15C), solid propellant
Deployment: Road mobile, 6X6 tractor truck + six-wheel trailer; or silo
Length: 9.1m (DF-15)
Diameter: 1.0m
Launch weight: 6,200kg
Warhead: 500kg HE
Range: 600km (DF-15)
Guidance: Inertial + GPS
Accuracy: CEP 150~500m; or 30~50m on the later variants
Launch preparation time: 15~30 min
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