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I don't understand. China help Syria with medical staff training. That is humanitarian help. Then why the story move from that noble goal to the usual PDF glorious rumor?

Indeed. There is no way that China would be militarily involved. That's crazy and yet another state actor in the swamp.

Jumping into the swamp will make no positive effect on anyone.

China needs to/will stay outside of it, providing political and technical support on the grounds of non-intervention and state sovereignty. In the end, Syrian government is the only legitimate political entity in the country and represents it at the UN, currently.

Obviously, China does not want to see another Libya in the region, this is bad for business and will breed lots of problems in the form of global terrorism. China will provide political/technical support to the secular Syrian government; but will not be involved militarily.

No no,i dint say people fuming on china,i was saying muslim world was fuming on Assad,want him removed from power.

Not the entire Muslim world, I guess. That's a matter of sectarianism and one is bound to make one side unhappy once you make a decision. But still not the entire Muslim world.

Syrian war has become very much like the Lebanon civil war (of course, more complicated and protracted, potentially), so, most people (outside the very radical/terrorist segments) lost their excitement and interest.

The proxy situation is what keeps it still on the headlines.

In summary, Syrian people would fly to China to join a short time course of "medical and nursing training" and return to Syria when they finished the course.
Nothing much

No. They will receive help in their own country. Nothing much. Syrian people do not leisurely fly to other countries.
 
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It's about time I think, SAA badly need modern military equipment and training. They fought opponent with same arsenal and tactic, that's going nowhere, a dead end. China can provides military training, military hardware for SAA and medical support for injured civil or soldiers from neighboring country like Iran. That at least help Syrians, in other side China can gain experience, in military means or humanitarians.
 
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In summary, Syrian people would fly to China to join a short time course of "medical and nursing training" and return to Syria when they finished the course.
Nothing much

China steps into the Syrian saga
BY SALMAN RAFI on AUGUST 25, 2016 in ASIA TIMES NEWS & FEATURES, CHINA, MIDDLE EAST

China’s Adm Guan Youfei’s recent visit to Syria was a diplomatic maneuver to counter-balance US’ military and political provocations in South China Sea region. But although China’s advisors are already on the ground in Syria to train the regime forces in the use of its weapons, it will not commit warplanes or ground forces in the conflict to end up having more enemies than friends in the Middle East region.

The recent visit of China’s Rear Adm Guan Youfei to Syria may be a small step amid the ongoing conflict but will have a big influence on the outcome of talks to be held to end the crisis.


In this file photo, China’s Rear Adm. Guan Youfei salutes to welcome then U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel upon arriving at Qingdao International Airport in Qingdao, China

The ‘Chinese factor’, as it looks, is set to create diplomatic and political pressure on various fronts than sending warplanes to bomb IS and other terror outfits.

The move comes at a time when Russia and Iran have boosted their own military campaigns in Syria.

Amid Russia continuing its bombing on IS targets and Iran announcing the formation and deployment of a “Liberation Army” in Syria, as also in Yemen, China’s entry on the side of Assad implies that he has got on-board a ‘friend’ forced into this conflict because of its own security concerns.

China’s primary motivation is the presence of Uyghur militants operating in Syria who, if the global supporters of these groups manage to topple Assad’s government, will have a staging ground closer to Iran, southern Russia and western China. An alliance among the three countries, therefore, does make sense.

“China and Syria’s militaries have a traditionally friendly relationship, and China’s military is willing to keep strengthening exchanges and cooperation with Syria’s military,” said Rear Adm Guan Youfei, director of the Office for International Military Cooperation of China’s Central Military Commission, during his most recent visit to China.

The cooperation also includes China’s recent pledge to provide “humanitarian assistance” to the Syrian people as well as military support for Syrian government troops in their fight to restore order nationwide.

The Global Times, a paper published by the ruling Communist Party, said advisors are already on the ground in Syria to train regime forces in the use of Chinese-bought weapons including sniper rifles, rocket launchers, and machine guns.

On a wider regional scale, China’s entry alongside Russia and Iran does indicate how, at some point in future, a military block—or a regional anti-terrorism entity—might come into existence to counter the fast spreading threats of ‘global terrorism.’

Although it seems to be global, and many would say that Europe has been attacked quite a few times, the fact cannot be gainsaid that Iran, Russia and China’s territorial proximity to the ‘theatre of terrorism’ does makes them more vulnerable and also provides them the logic to establish such a block.

Michael Maloof, a former Pentagon official, thus explained to Russia Today in an interview what China’s entry in Syria implies, “China and Russia are prominent members of what is called the Shanghai Cooperation Organization [SCO]. Iran wants to become a member. That’s 17 countries in all that are either prominent members, or partners, which also include Turkey, Iran, India, Pakistan and countries in Central Asia. It’s a large organization,” he said.

“The SCO – while it’s economic in nature – has become more of a counter-terrorism entity. And that’s where the Chinese feel that they need to be. But it also reflects the fact that the SCO gives them a greater presence and influence in the Middle East along with Russia and Iran”, he said.

However, notwithstanding the low profile commitments China has made, how far Beijing intends going militarily remains to be seen. It has its own terrorist problem. It’s threatened by US regional provocations, notably in the South China Sea. Its government reportedly sent dozens of military advisors to Syria last year to aid in the fight against terrorism, stopping short of committing warplanes and/or ground forces.

Whether Guan’s visit will lead to more direct military involvement depends on how the war itself unfolds in the crisis. However, it is quite obvious that the U.S. and its allies would feel the pressure of China’s overt presence on and off the war-zone in Syria and elsewhere too.

On the other hand, what we should not lose sight of is that China sources about half of its oil and gas from the Middle East, mostly from Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia, which back opposing sides in the multi-sided conflict.

Beijing is unlikely to risk alienating any of those powers by becoming militarily involved in the conflict whereby China may end up having more enemies than friends in the region.

Given this, the Chinese rear admiral’s recent visit to Syria can also be read as a diplomatic maneuver to counter-balance US’ military and political provocations in South China Sea region.

A diplomatic poke as it looks in the eye of the US, China’s presence does nevertheless mean that the US’ regional allies in the Middle East will be under pressure conducting ‘war business’ with one of the major investors they probably have to modernize their ‘petro-economy.’

This being the case, Russia and Iran, as also Turkey now, may try to utilize the ‘Chinese factor’ to put pressure on Saudi Arabia and its allies to stop funding terror groups in Syria and elsewhere in the region.

Given Saudi Arabia’s (poor) internal economic situation, its troubled relations with the U.S., and the fact that it is currently the second biggest supplier of oil to China after Russia, it may not be able to confront China to an extent where an important buyer may start looking for other options.

Were such a scenario to take place, the U.S. may find itself, what some analysts have called, significantly “sidelined” in the Middle East.

With Russian forces and China indicating “military assistance” to Assad, Saudi Arabia and other Persian Gulf states are now at a greater disadvantage vis-a-vis their arch rival, Tehran.

As such, should China be forced deeper into the conflict amid non-stop supply of weapons and funds to terror groups from Arab states, this may compound the already tenuous position of these countries in the region further, forcing the Russia-Iran-China coalition to liquidate terror groups and their peripheral networks beyond Syria’s battlefields.

Salman Rafi Sheikh is a freelance journalist and research analyst of international relations and Pakistan affairs. His area of interest is South and West Asian politics, the foreign policies of major powers, and Pakistani politics. He can be reached at salmansheikh.ss11.sr@gmail.com

(Copyright 2016 Asia Times Holdings Limited, a duly registered Hong Kong company. All rights reserved. Please contact us about sales, syndication and republishing.)

http://atimes.com/2016/08/china-steps-into-the-syrian-saga/

@Chinese-Dragon @ChineseTiger1986 @Beast
 
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GOOD MOVE! CN weapon systems help.Sy to kill those terrorists and the feedback will help us to improve our weapon systems.
True, every world P4 Power (+ Iran) has been testing their weapons in Syria now for a long time, China is late to the game.
So welcome in the Syrian quagmire as @Vergennes said

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Not like it will change anything training Assads troops or medical staff , maybe just a little bit more chaos. :lol:

Syrian war can't be won militarily to be honest, Only a diplomatic settlement can bring this war to an end.
 
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Syrian war can't be won militarily to be honest, Only a diplomatic settlement can bring this war to an end.

The reason why ISIS is so strong, is because it has a lot of support from the people on the ground. Otherwise there is no way they could have survived.

ISIS is only the most recent name for it, they had many names before. Once ISIS is gone another one will spring up, just like before, and just like the time before that. Basically it is the Sunni Muslims of Iraq/Syria hitting back against alleged persecution by their Shi'a political leaders.

It will never die until the people on the ground stop supporting it.
 
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China steps into the Syrian saga
BY SALMAN RAFI on AUGUST 25, 2016 in ASIA TIMES NEWS & FEATURES, CHINA, MIDDLE EAST

China’s Adm Guan Youfei’s recent visit to Syria was a diplomatic maneuver to counter-balance US’ military and political provocations in South China Sea region. But although China’s advisors are already on the ground in Syria to train the regime forces in the use of its weapons, it will not commit warplanes or ground forces in the conflict to end up having more enemies than friends in the Middle East region.

The recent visit of China’s Rear Adm Guan Youfei to Syria may be a small step amid the ongoing conflict but will have a big influence on the outcome of talks to be held to end the crisis.


In this file photo, China’s Rear Adm. Guan Youfei salutes to welcome then U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel upon arriving at Qingdao International Airport in Qingdao, China

The ‘Chinese factor’, as it looks, is set to create diplomatic and political pressure on various fronts than sending warplanes to bomb IS and other terror outfits.

The move comes at a time when Russia and Iran have boosted their own military campaigns in Syria.

Amid Russia continuing its bombing on IS targets and Iran announcing the formation and deployment of a “Liberation Army” in Syria, as also in Yemen, China’s entry on the side of Assad implies that he has got on-board a ‘friend’ forced into this conflict because of its own security concerns.

China’s primary motivation is the presence of Uyghur militants operating in Syria who, if the global supporters of these groups manage to topple Assad’s government, will have a staging ground closer to Iran, southern Russia and western China. An alliance among the three countries, therefore, does make sense.

“China and Syria’s militaries have a traditionally friendly relationship, and China’s military is willing to keep strengthening exchanges and cooperation with Syria’s military,” said Rear Adm Guan Youfei, director of the Office for International Military Cooperation of China’s Central Military Commission, during his most recent visit to China.

The cooperation also includes China’s recent pledge to provide “humanitarian assistance” to the Syrian people as well as military support for Syrian government troops in their fight to restore order nationwide.

The Global Times, a paper published by the ruling Communist Party, said advisors are already on the ground in Syria to train regime forces in the use of Chinese-bought weapons including sniper rifles, rocket launchers, and machine guns.

On a wider regional scale, China’s entry alongside Russia and Iran does indicate how, at some point in future, a military block—or a regional anti-terrorism entity—might come into existence to counter the fast spreading threats of ‘global terrorism.’

Although it seems to be global, and many would say that Europe has been attacked quite a few times, the fact cannot be gainsaid that Iran, Russia and China’s territorial proximity to the ‘theatre of terrorism’ does makes them more vulnerable and also provides them the logic to establish such a block.

Michael Maloof, a former Pentagon official, thus explained to Russia Today in an interview what China’s entry in Syria implies, “China and Russia are prominent members of what is called the Shanghai Cooperation Organization [SCO]. Iran wants to become a member. That’s 17 countries in all that are either prominent members, or partners, which also include Turkey, Iran, India, Pakistan and countries in Central Asia. It’s a large organization,” he said.

“The SCO – while it’s economic in nature – has become more of a counter-terrorism entity. And that’s where the Chinese feel that they need to be. But it also reflects the fact that the SCO gives them a greater presence and influence in the Middle East along with Russia and Iran”, he said.

However, notwithstanding the low profile commitments China has made, how far Beijing intends going militarily remains to be seen. It has its own terrorist problem. It’s threatened by US regional provocations, notably in the South China Sea. Its government reportedly sent dozens of military advisors to Syria last year to aid in the fight against terrorism, stopping short of committing warplanes and/or ground forces.

Whether Guan’s visit will lead to more direct military involvement depends on how the war itself unfolds in the crisis. However, it is quite obvious that the U.S. and its allies would feel the pressure of China’s overt presence on and off the war-zone in Syria and elsewhere too.

On the other hand, what we should not lose sight of is that China sources about half of its oil and gas from the Middle East, mostly from Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia, which back opposing sides in the multi-sided conflict.

Beijing is unlikely to risk alienating any of those powers by becoming militarily involved in the conflict whereby China may end up having more enemies than friends in the region.

Given this, the Chinese rear admiral’s recent visit to Syria can also be read as a diplomatic maneuver to counter-balance US’ military and political provocations in South China Sea region.

A diplomatic poke as it looks in the eye of the US, China’s presence does nevertheless mean that the US’ regional allies in the Middle East will be under pressure conducting ‘war business’ with one of the major investors they probably have to modernize their ‘petro-economy.’

This being the case, Russia and Iran, as also Turkey now, may try to utilize the ‘Chinese factor’ to put pressure on Saudi Arabia and its allies to stop funding terror groups in Syria and elsewhere in the region.

Given Saudi Arabia’s (poor) internal economic situation, its troubled relations with the U.S., and the fact that it is currently the second biggest supplier of oil to China after Russia, it may not be able to confront China to an extent where an important buyer may start looking for other options.

Were such a scenario to take place, the U.S. may find itself, what some analysts have called, significantly “sidelined” in the Middle East.

With Russian forces and China indicating “military assistance” to Assad, Saudi Arabia and other Persian Gulf states are now at a greater disadvantage vis-a-vis their arch rival, Tehran.

As such, should China be forced deeper into the conflict amid non-stop supply of weapons and funds to terror groups from Arab states, this may compound the already tenuous position of these countries in the region further, forcing the Russia-Iran-China coalition to liquidate terror groups and their peripheral networks beyond Syria’s battlefields.

Salman Rafi Sheikh is a freelance journalist and research analyst of international relations and Pakistan affairs. His area of interest is South and West Asian politics, the foreign policies of major powers, and Pakistani politics. He can be reached at salmansheikh.ss11.sr@gmail.com

(Copyright 2016 Asia Times Holdings Limited, a duly registered Hong Kong company. All rights reserved. Please contact us about sales, syndication and republishing.)

http://atimes.com/2016/08/china-steps-into-the-syrian-saga/

@Chinese-Dragon @ChineseTiger1986 @Beast
Advisor is always a disguised. I suspect some elite unit member will operate long range sniper to directly involved in battle operation. Same as Russian and US advisor. It's time China not to play nice and act tough.
 
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The reason why ISIS is so strong, is because it has a lot of support from the people on the ground. Otherwise there is no way they could have survived.

ISIS is only the most recent name for it, they had many names before. Once ISIS is gone another one will spring up, just like before, and just like the time before that. Basically it is the Sunni Muslims of Iraq/Syria hitting back against alleged persecution by their Shi'a political leaders.

It will never die until the people on the ground stop supporting it.

Their existence very much about influence or hegemony of some foreign entity not simple people.
 
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All the foreign influence in the world won't make a difference if the people on the ground don't support it. See why the KMT lost the Chinese Civil War.

Hence the reason why we don't want Shiite militias in Sunni areas of Iraq. They just commit massacres and that leads to more joining ISIS.
 
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China has no real life combat battle experience. How can they train ppl? They gonna train them to failure. :disagree:
 
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A good testing ground for weapons, a great way to increase influence, makes America angry, and is the right thing to do. An all around great move from China to get involved in Syria.
Buddy in the other thread you were claiming Assad government is murderous and is conducting mass murders, how come so big changeover in less than 24 hours.:o:

They are training the separatists in Xinjiang, they have already stepped on our red line.
All external foreign jihadis should be burned alive, no mercy on them. Domestic miscreants should be tutored first, then if it still doesn't work. One bullet in head should be sufficient.
 
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