Chinese might face internal problems and disintegrate

[Wholegrain]

When economic crises hits China and central government dissolves this should be done. This is what should be done:
-US should have boycott on Chinese products.
-Turkey should make military deal with Japanese and cultural relations should be stronger
-Deal with Russia should be made to liberate Uighur, in return it will get access to Black-sea and Med-sea.
-We should made deal with India and promise them Tibet.
-Also deal with smaller nations around China should be included in the new order.

And the Hui and Turkic Salar Muslims will beat up the Tibetan and Uyghur separatists like they did in 1932, 1934, and 1944.

And the maybe the Japanese haven't forgotten the beating they received from Hui Muslims , Mongol Dongxiang Muslims and Turkic Salar Muslims during World War 2.

 

[Indian Tiger]

@Jesus , Thala shuttler oru kena k***thi avanukku reply panni time waste pannatheenga...

 

[atatwolf]

And the Hui and Turkic Salar Muslims will beat up the Tibetan and Uyghur separatists like they did in 1932, 1934, and 1944.

And the maybe the Japanese haven't forgotten the beating they received from Hui Muslims , Mongol Dongxiang Muslims and Turkic Salar Muslims during World War 2.

If Salars knew better they wouldn't have fought along side the Chinese. Just look how they are treated today. They won't make the same mistake.

 

[Wholegrain]

The Japanese maybe want another smackdown from the Hui and Salar

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The Salar General Han Youwen wrote about defending China's integrity in Xinjiang

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"The Marching Wind" by Leonard Francis Clark talks about Salars who served in Ma Bufang's army during World War 2. One of them killed alot of Japanese and fought tibetan separatists,

If Salars knew better they wouldn't have fought along side the Chinese. Just look how they are treated today. They won't make the same mistake.

Says someone who knows nothing about China. There is no Salar separatist movement. They view themselves as citizens of China The Salars are the majority in Xunhua county (by the way, they are descnded from immigrants from Samarkand. Its built into their identity and they are not greedy liars so they don't claim they were native to Xunhua for thousands of years.)

Salara are semi sinicized. Their clan chiefs (Tusi) voluntarily submitted to China during the Ming dynasty when they moved to China from Central Asia. They mixed heavily with Chinese and Tibetans so they have Chinese blood to. Their language is influenced by Chinese and Tibetan, many Chinese loanwords are in Salar. They use both Chinese first and last names with an additional (Arabic) Muslim name instead of Turkic names. The last names Han and Ma are frequent among them.

Many Salars served in the Chinese army, ever since they arrrived during the Ming, then the Qing and to the present day.

The Moslem World - Google Books

Han Youwen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The only conflict they ever had was sectarian. The Salars used to be all Hanafi Sunni but some converted to Jahriyya Sufism. In 1781 the jahriyya Sufi cult rebelled and many Salar belonged to this sect but Khufiyya Sufis and ordinary Sunnis helped the Qing government crush the Jahriyya Sufis. The Jahriyya .sufis believed their cult leader was like a prophet and infallible so they obeyed all his orders and offen attacked other Muslim who belonged to different sects.

Ever since the Jahriyya were crushed there was no Jahriyya uprising anymore. And the Salars never has a pan turkic or turkic nationalist movement or uprising.

The Salars are loyal citizens of China and don't hold separatist views. Many Salars were loyal to the Republic of China (Taiwan) during civil war and now they are apolitical. Han Youwen defected to the Communists and became the most prominent Salar military officer and member of Xinjiang's government, serving as a vice chairman.

@atatwolf

Also Chinese government official publications on Salar language and history deliberately emphasize the most Turkic aspects, and depict the most Turkic dialect of their language as possible to show the aspect of their culture least affected by Chinese and Tibetan culture and intermarriage with Chinese and Tibetans, going so far as to paint a misleading picture. And you claim they are treated like what?

Nationalism and Ethnoregional Identities in China - Google Books

Salar: A Study in Inner Asian Language Contact Processes. Phonology - Arienne M. Dwyer - Google Books

The identity of an exile from their homeland (central asia) is ingrained in the Salar as is their loyalty to being citizens to China. They don't claim to be natives but are given their rights where they reside. They are speaking their own language and practicing their culture and religion and don't preach separatism.

 

[surya kiran]

First you should know that, Democracy isn't what congresshi says... I'm not even going to read the article which u pasted about insurgency, coz i live in tamil nadu,so i need not read the article to know the reality here.

This is not an India thread. Don't make it one. Avoid responding to incitement.

 

[Beast]

When economic crises hits China and central government dissolves this should be done. This is what should be done:
-US should have boycott on Chinese products.
-Turkey should make military deal with Japanese and cultural relations should be stronger
-Deal with Russia should be made to liberate Uighur, in return it will get access to Black-sea and Med-sea.
-We should made deal with India and promise them Tibet.
-Also deal with smaller nations around China should be included in the new order.

Ya ya.. Turkey do not allow Kurdish to go independent and can mettle in other countries internal affair and wanted them to disintegrate. A pot calling a kettle black. What a fake turkish!

 

[Anonymous_CryptoSpy]

PRC will tend to exist at least 100 years from now.

unless some serious economic recession/collapse occurs or some serious internal governance problem, articles like these are just wet dreams of authors.
Leonardo da Vinci did predicted helicopters/planes but it occurred centuries later. perhaps back then people might have called that is his wet dream.

 

[Jade]

Disintegration may not happen, but if there is further slide in growth rate then there could be another Tiananmen square.

 

[Jade]

PRC will tend to exist at least 100 years from now.

unless some serious economic recession/collapse occurs or some serious internal governance problem, articles like these are just wet dreams of authors.
Leonardo da Vinci did predicted helicopters/planes but it occurred centuries later. perhaps back then people might have called that is his wet dream.

Corruption and inequality are growing at alarming rate in China. Indictment of Bo Xilai proves that even the top echelon of CPC is corrupt. Any dramatic slide in growth rate, there could be massive civil upraising.

 

[Grevion]

Talk is cheap. Let see some video and see who is in turmoil...

Mind you, all these happen very recently. Not some donkey 10 year ago unrest,

Always avoiding democracy.Why?

No one is forcing you to be democratic....take your time find your way and if you still thinks that communism is better than be it....Communism will be in China until it can provide the last things that China wants....Democracy is the last thing that it cannot give to China but that will be only the choice of Chinese people anybody else should not have a problem with it..

 

[StarCraft_ZT]

Funny, Indian democracy again, no surprise, this is your last mask to hide your poverty.

 

[StarCraft_ZT]

Indians do not understand the difference between political democracy and individual liberty. They mistakenly think vote as democracy...that is really a pity.

 

[Roll in deep]

false flag indians masquerading as others...india is already disintegrating........we just have to wait a few years....dont let that guy bother you....

You get the point!

 

[Snowden]

Disintegration may not happen, but if there is further slide in growth rate then there could be another Tiananmen square.

Growth has slowed various times during our economic rise but hardly any protests related economic related jobs. Only small parts protest if they don't have jobs. 1989 was related to internal politics.

Corruption and inequality are growing at alarming rate in China. Indictment of Bo Xilai proves that even the top echelon of CPC is corrupt. Any dramatic slide in growth rate, there could be massive civil upraising.

The CPC is cracking down on corrupt officials, in other countries like India or US, corrupt officials never get kicked out. They have strong lobby groups that stay in power for a long time. That's why democracy is a failed concept. Major reason why India is falling behind China is the difference in the political systems. Unless India starts to deal with its corrupt officials and lobby groups, you can forget about India ever surpassing us.

 

[Snowden]

Always avoiding democracy.Why?

No one is forcing you to be democratic....take your time find your way and if you still thinks that communism is better than be it....Communism will be in China until it can provide the last things that China wants....Democracy is the last thing that it cannot give to China but that will be only the choice of Chinese people anybody else should not have a problem with it..

Because of communism China has the current growth speed and independent foreign policy. Does India have an independent foreign policy? Not a chance. Why? Because all your political parties and leaders are bought and paid by the CIA. They serve the interests of the American empire first and second their own self-interest and only after that comes the Indian people.

There are dozens of democracies in this world that are vastly more corrupt, poor and backward than us and one of them is India. I think many rational Indians would admit this privately.