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You indians are so obsessed with Chinese food and everything Chinese that you fish for every tabloid news about us. LOL, even your govt obsessively benchmark India's development to China. Good work! For a start, learn how to use a toilet like us. Vote for more toilets, vote for Modi.
 
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No I have a nice 3 bedroom Apartment in Mumbai. Do you live in mud caves ?

why dont you brag living in taj mahal?

Chinese collect baby urine to soak your eggs and eat them as delicacy. :sick: I would rather eat mud. honest.

that is a bizzare mudsling. indians drink cow's disposables and eat corpses as shown on utubes

We certainly don't eat using utensils, we cook our food in them :lol: ..... but then again cooking might be a new concept to people who eat animals raw. What was that again ? Ox penis ? dog penis ? tiger penis ? .... is there anything you don't eat ?

you left hands and right hands are well defined, even after some serious personal business and then eat your food with five finger slurps. gosh I think your fingers are brewing along with the hot food upon each scoop

We define cusines as something different from cheerleaders - who eat decaying corpses and sh*t laced with indian curry, and they are eating partners with rats!

Even dogs don't eat the stuff you chinese eat. Now that is a true statement. You can verify it from anywhere. But what would you know. You even eat dog :cheesy:

you cheerleaders eat dogs while we are cracking down on selling and consumption of pets in China!
 
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China has too many people and none of them have any manners

“I don’t like Chinese people. When I visited Guangzhou a few years ago everyone was cutting in line. They would use their elbows just to push past you. They didn’t even care if you had been standing there a long time, they always had to go first. In Malaysia people always line up, even when they are in a hurry.

China has too many people and none of them have any manners. Like when you go into the bathroom and nobody has even bothered to shut the door. You see everything and I just can’t stand it. I don’t want to see your penis and I definitely don’t want to watch you poop; it’s disgusting.

Furthermore, China doesn’t even have any traditional culture. Everything has been lost there. If you want to see lion dancing or dragon dancing you have to go to another country. In Malaysia you can see these things everywhere around Chinese New Year, but on the mainland they are only on TV.

And it’s not like I’ve only been to China once, I’ve been there four times and I still can’t stand it. When it really comes down to it I love China’s scenery, but I can’t stand it’s people.”

This is a rough translation from Chinese of the monologue given by our ethnically Chinese, Malaysian taxi driver when we mentioned that we lived in China. Other ethnic Chinese here have told us similar stories from their experiences with the mainland and so far 3 out of 4 didn’t have a single nice thing to say. I was more than a little surprised by their reactions.

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EXPOSED BELLIES, SPITTING, PAJAMAS AND BAD MANNERS IN CHINA


BAD MANNERS IN CHINA


Mother and peeing child Chinese have a reputation for having bad manners: spitting in streets, making loud slurping noises when they eat, walking around in public without a shirt; cutting in line; urinating in public; jostling aggressively. This wasn’t always the case. In imperial times the Mandarin class in particular was known for its refined tastes and manners. Confucianism taught people to treat others with courtesy and respect.

Chinese tourists traveling outside of China have been warned not to embarrass China with uncouth behavior such as walking around in hotel lobbies in pajamas, tossing chicken bones on the floor of restaurants and talking loudly. Chinese state-supported travel agencies warn their customers that “spitting, slurping foods and jumping queues merely disgust people at home. But is intolerable in other countries.” Chinese tourists are also coached not to roll up their trouser legs and strip off their shirts to keep cool.

Overseas Chinese are among those who find mainland behavior to be the most uncouth. A Hong Kong newspaper ran a picture of a mainland mother helping her child pee on a wall at Hong Kong Disneyland and reported that many benches at the theme park were unusable because middle-aged Chinese men were sleeping on them. A Hong-Kong-born, London-based Chinese wrote a guidebook in which advised Chinese “Don’t ask foreign women how old they are” and “Don’t clean your ears in public.” Some mainlanders find mainlanders to be intolerably uncouth. In the essay the The Ugly Chinese writer and social critic Bo Yang criticized his countrymen for being too loud and too crass.

Georg Arit, a German sociologist who has studied Chinese tourists, told the Los Angeles Times, "Chinese are rude to people they don’t know. Unfortunately, when it comes to tourism, you don’t know most of the people you meet." He also said Chinese tourists were notorious for consciously breaking rules. “You’ll see people flouting ‘no smoking’ signs in luxury outlets, knowing few will complain when they’re spending $10,000. There’s also a feeling that ‘foreigners have been trampling on us for 200 years, and now it’s our turn.'”



Recent History of Bad Manners in China

Some blame China’s bad manners on Mao for setting a bad example. On Mao, Mao friend and writer Edgar Snow wrote, “Some people might have considered him coarse and vulgar” He then described how Mao liked to scratch himself and conduct meeting naked when it was hot. He also said Mao occasionally “absent-mindedly turned down the belt in his trousers and searched for some guest”—namely fleas and lice.

During the Cultural Revolution good manners were condemned as bourgeois and a means of inhibiting people and keeping them down. At that time it was considered a compliment to be call a dalacocu—“a big, rude guy. “

Deng Xiaoping, a notorious spitter, didn’t set a very good example either. He was not shy about hacking and spitting in public, and he often had a spittoon situated next to his chair when he met with world leaders.

Some people have said that the lack of civility in China has broken down a basic sense of trust and the only thing that seems to have replaced it is a love of money. An author of a book on Chinese etiquette told the Los Angeles Times, “You see people...overnight they’re millionaires. They have no education but the have money. They still forget to take a bath for three days."

Some blame the lack of manners on the quick pace of market economics. Sha Lianxiang, a sociology professor at Beijing’s People’s University, told the Los Angeles Times, “The problem is the market economy happened so suddenly that people got involved in the harsh competition....China didn’t have the time like Western countries to develop the civility that should go along with a developed economy.”


China Bans Bad Breath, Scars in Space

According to story in Fox News: ‘Candidates for China's manned space program must be cavity-free and have no history of head colds or sore throats. In fact, candidates must show there has been no serious disease in the family going back three generations, Sina.com reported. Bad breath can disqualify you from becoming an astronaut in China, but even if your breath is minty- fresh, you won't be seeing orbit unless your wife says you can go. [Source: FoxNews August 3 2009]

“Bad body odor will affect the colleagues in the narrow confines of a space shuttle,’ Shi Binbin, a doctor with the 454th Air Force Hospital in the east Chinese city of Nanjing, told AFP. Preliminary tests are being conducted on potential candidates. A hospital employee at the No. 454 Hospital told China Daily Sunday that 100 fighter pilots with college degrees were among the hopefuls being tested at the hospital, according to Sina.com. “ [Ibid]

China's future astronauts must also be scar-free. ‘Scars on the body, for example, might burst and bleed when spaceships are accelerating,’ Shi told Sina.com. Stringent requirements, he said, will help make sure the astronauts can handle the harsh environment of space. “ [Ibid]

“The candidates who go through all the tests and meet all the requirements can really be called super-human beings,’ Shi said. And the lucky few who qualify will have one final obstacle to overcome — their wives. If a potential astronaut's wife does not want him going to space, he will not be allowed to enter the program, Sina.com reported. “ [Ibid]


Etiquette Campaigns in China

The Chinese government is well aware of China’s reputation for bad manners. It has taken a number of measures to try and improve them. Slogans are painted on village walls urging farmers to do their part by participating in “courteous community” events. Universities hold etiquette contests.

In the late 1990s, the government under Jiang Zemin launched a “Spiritual Civilization” campaign in which people were encouraged to be more cultured and shed their bad habits. The airwaves were filled with moralizing lectures, billboards listed the "Nine Commandments" beginning with "Love Your Country." Husbands were told to help around the house and children were told cook "soft and mushy" meals for their elders. Some places even banned swearing and impolite behavior and created "civilized citizen" pledges.

Shanghai launched a "Seven Nos" campaign (no spitting, no jaywalking, no cursing, no destruction of greenery, no vandalism, no littering and no smoking). An effort was also made to clean up the city's public toilets. Businessmen encouraged their employees not to use phrases such as "Don't have it," "Can't you see I'm busy," and "Hurry up and pay." In Dalian, citizens were promised cash rewards for reporting rude taxi drivers; travelers were fined for spitting; scavengers were banned from bagging doves and pigeons in the central squares; and soccer fans were told to tone down their insults of players on opposing teams.

As part of it effort to win the 2008 Olympics and improve the manners after the bid was won, local authorities in Beijing have launched several etiquette campaigns. A book called Etiquette for Modern Chinese has been issued; courses on manners are run on television; and slogans are plastered on billboards See Civilization Campaigns Before the 2008 Olympics, Sports

The Spiritual Civilization Steering Committee of the Communist Party orchestrates the etiquette campaigns. According to researchers at Renmen University the residents of Beijing have become “more civilized” according to a “civic index” survey taken in February 2008 but still need some “fine tuning” to be ready for the Olympics.

An etiquette campaign launched in Shanghai called “Let’s Become Lovely Shanghaiese” produced a “Citizen’s Guide” that listed 100 ways that residents there could improve their manners in anticipation of the World Expo in 2010. Among the suggestions were: 1) “Don’t walk outside in pajamas or with a naked torso”; 2) “Trim your nostril hair short.” There was also advise on eating and politely using cell phones. The campaign was launched far in advance of the 2010 Expo in hopes that it would sink in by 2010. Shanghai has also passed law against swearing and smoking in public.

In January 2010, a low-income housing development in Guangzhou unveiled a point system to crack down on loutish behavior in which offenders who rack up 20 points within two years could have their home taken away. Spitting and urinating in public carries a fine of three points, which means that a person caught spitting seven times could have lose their home. Other point-earning infractions include chewing gum and tossing fruit peels.

As was true at the Beijing Olympics, a manners campaign was launched one the eve of Expo 2010 in Shanghai to discourage people from hanging their laundry outside, jaywalking, spitting on the streets and wearing their pajamas in public, a longtime Shanghai tradition. One man who often wore his pajamas when he went shopping told the Washington Post, ‘Now, everybody knows. If I forget and wear my pajamas out on the street, my neighbors will stop me.’


Details of Beijing’s Etiquette Campaign

A major effort was made to raise the ‘civilizational levels’ of the city's average Zhou. Authorities focused on five major faults: Beijing-style name-calling, casual spitting, littering, disorderly queuing and not smiling. Among the measures taken were placing red banners reading ‘To queue is glorious’ strategically around the capital and imploring taxi drivers to wash more regularly, put on clean shirts andavoid eating inside their cabs.’ [Source: Pallavi Aiyar, Asia Times, August 8, 2008]

Pallavi Aiyar wrote in the Asia Times, ‘Beijingers were subjected to random fines for spitting, dazzled by smile campaigns and exhorted to form queues... For several months, the 11th of each month has been designated Queuing Day, with government employees fanning out to hundreds of bus and subway stations urging people to eschew their preferred survival-of-the-fittest push-fests in favor of forming orderly lines.” [Ibid]

The city government has also instituted a ‘civility-evaluation index’ that ranks neighborhoods according to the level of refinement they are able to achieve by the time of the Olympics. The resulting competition between neighborhoods has been intense. Anxious to secure the coveted epithet of ‘civilized community’, neighborhood committees across Beijing have been vying with each other in organizing weekend discussions on edifying topics such as ‘Host the Olympics with civility’ and ‘Smile in Beijing’. “ [Ibid]

Manuals with ‘guidelines for the building of courteous communities’ have been distributed; criteria outlined include sharing housework, speaking a foreign language, regular reading of newspapers, large book-collections and balconies displaying potted plants. Also mentioned are a number of ‘forbidden’ activities such as alcohol abuse, raising pigeons, rearing livestock at home, noisiness and spitting. “ [Ibid]

Another common Beijing practice that is under threat as a result of the Olympic-friendly image that is being promoted is the use of kaidangku (literally open-crotch pants) for babies. For decades Chinese parents have opted for the maximum convenience, with minimum coverage provided by the use of these pants that are slit around the buttocks, enabling kids to answer the call of nature anywhere on the streets without the fuss of actually having to pull their trousers down. “ [Ibid]

Neighborhood committees have however been pressed into persuading parents to eschew bare bottoms in favor of diapers, at least for the duration of the Olympics. Signposts abound sternly asking what kind of impression foreign visitors will take home of Beijing if they see public spaces being used as open-air toilets. “ [Ibid]

All this ‘civilizing’ activity appears to have paid off. According to a survey conducted by the People's University's Humanistic Olympics Study Center, the ‘civic index’ of Beijingers was 73.38 in 2007, up from 65.21 and 69.06 in 2005 and 2006, respectively. The index reflects compliance with rules involving public health and public order, attitudes towards strangers, etiquette at sports events and a willingness to contribute to the Olympic Games, explained Liao Fei, a sociology professor who worked on the survey. “ [Ibid]

“A citizen's behavior embodies and reflects on the entire nation's culture,’ she said, adding that the average Chinese needed to modify his manners to be more in line with the changes created by the country's zooming economy. ‘With economic reforms changes in China happened very rapidly and people didn't have time like in Western countries to develop the manners that should go along with a developed economy,’ Dr Liao continued. “ [Ibid]


Lines and Littering in China

Chinese are not big on waiting in lines. People often butt in line or try to bully their way to the front or use contacts to get special treatment. There is often a great deal of pushing and jostling around ticket booths and bank clerks, where "huddles" rather than lines tend to form.

The Beijing Spiritual Civilization office launched “Learn to Queue Day” aimed at doing something about the mobs that developed around stopped buses and subways. The campaign employed teams of volunteers to teach riders how to wait in line at bus stops and let people get off subways before the begin crowding in.

The Chinese are relavtively neat in the way they dress and organize their houses, but they are notorious litterers. There is a lot of litter at tourist sites. In a survey in Beijing in 2006, littering were ranked among the top five most disgusting habits.

Theroux once recorded the following items on the floor of train: duck bones, fish bones, peanut shells, cookie wrappers, sunflower seed husks, teacups, tumblers, thermoses, wine bottles, foot tins, spit, orange rinds, raw shells and used diapers.


Spitting in China

Chinese men hack and spit everywhere: on the streets, all over the sidewalks, in buildings, on the floor of trains, and even on the floors of restaurants and homes. Doctors and staff routinely spit on the hallway floors in hospitals. Be careful when walking past a bus full of Chinese. Passengers often spit out the window. Women also spit but not as much as the men.

In one survey, two thirds of all the adult Chinese asked admitted to spitting on a regular basis. If that figure is true around 900 million people in China are habitual spitters. Many men smoke and have hacking smoker’s coughs. The first thing many of them do when they leave their houses in morning is clear phlegm from their throats and spit. Some Chinese men spit on the wheel rims on their cars to see if the brakes are rubbing on the hub.

Spitting has been linked in the past with anti-foreigner sentiments. A banner raised during the Boxer Rebellion in 1900 read: "Certainly foreign soldiers are a horde; but if each of our people spits once, they will drown." Up until fairly recently Chinese leaders had ceramic spittoons next to their chairs at ceremonies and banquets where they greeted royals, diplomats and foreign leaders. Mao had a spittoon at his feet when he met Nixon.

The Chinese, wrote Theroux, "spat all the time...With their cheeks alone they made the sunctioning: hhggaarrkh! And then they ground and positioned their teeth, and they leaned. You expected them to propel it about five yards, like a Laramie stockman sitting over a fence. But no they never gave it any force. They seldom spat more than a few inches from where they stood. They did not spit out, they spit down."

"Chinese spitting is not half as bad as throat clearing," Theroux wrote, "the hoick can be heard for fifty yards...They cleared their throats so loudly they could drown out conversation—they could sound like a Rota-Rooter or someone clearing a storm drain, or the last gallon leaving a Jacuzzi ...After that, the spitting itself was rather an anticlimax."


Phlegm in China

David Sedaris wrote in The Guardian, “After arriving at Beijing International Airport one of the “the first thing one notices is what sounds like a milk steamer, the sort a cafe uses when making lattes and cappuccinos. "That's odd," you think. "There's a coffee bar on the elevator to the parking deck?" What you're hearing, that incessant guttural hiss, is the sound of one person, and then another, dredging up phlegm, seemingly from the depths of his or her soul. At first you look over, wondering, "Where are you going to put that?" A better question, you soon realise, is, "Where aren't you going to put it?" [Source: David Sedaris, The Guardian July 15, 2011]

I saw wads of phlegm glistening like freshly shucked oysters on staircases and escalators. I saw them frozen into slicks on the sidewalk and oozing down the sides of walls. It often seemed that if people weren't spitting, they were coughing without covering their mouths, or shooting wads of snot out of their noses. This was done by plugging one nostril and using the other as a blowhole. "We Chinese think it's best just to get it out," a woman told me over dinner one night. She said that, in her opinion, it's disgusting that a westerner would use a handkerchief and then put it back into his pocket. "Well, it's not for sentimental reasons," I told her. "We don't hold on to our snot for ever. The handkerchief's mainly a sanitary consideration."


Reasons for Spitting and Anti-Spitting Campaigns in China

Many Chinese who spit say they do so for health reasons. Many Chinese have phlegm in their throats as a result of chronic bronchitis, colds that never get better and respiratory problems caused by heavy smoking, air pollution, and cold weather.

The hacking and spitting is merely a way of clearing the lungs and throats and respiratory system of phlegm and other nasty things that have accumulated in them. According to Chinese beliefs, phlegm is considered a manifestation of natural imbalances in the body and getting rid of it is regarded as a healthy act. Some people claim that chronic spitting spreads disease and helps create the problem it is trying to solve.

Spitting is much less common than it once was. Twenty years ago spit was all over the place. Now it is just all over some places. Many Chinese are embarrassed by the spitting habit of some of their countrymen. They view it as a sign of ignorance and backwardness. According to one survey 80 percent of Chinese disapprove of public spitting. In another survey, in Beijing, spitting was ranked among the top five most disgusting habits.

The omnipresent anti-spitting posters, which are seen throughout China, don't discourage people from spitting but rather encourage them to spit in spittoons. Most anti-spitting campaigns are launched before important events or the arrival of foreign VIPs—such as the committee which selected where the Olympics would be held. Most campaigns—including one linking spitting with the spread of AIDS—have had limited effectiveness.

In Beijing, the fine for spitting is around $6.60, less than fine for failing to dispose of dog excrement ($25) and hanging laundry facing major roads ($25). Volunteers there with the word “mucus” printed on them give out small white plastic bags in parks, shopping malls and other places for people to spit in. Uniformed inspectors patrol places like Tiananmen Square looking for spitters and litterers. When a spitter is caught in the act he is forced to bend over and clean up his mess. After a small crowd has gathered he is lectured by the inspector on the consequences of spiting: spreading diseases, causing pollution and embarrassing China.


History of Anti-Spitting Campaigns in China

Disgust over spitting is nothing new. Before the Communists came to power in 1949, Chiang Kai-shek ordered troops onto the streets of Beijing to stop people from spitting. In the 1980s, Deng Xiaoping launched a massive campaign against "this unhealthy practice" and enlisted a force of 200,000 health inspectors to levy fines on spitters in Beijing alone. One thousand anti-spitting centers were set up around the city; posters displaying bacteria found in spit were plastered around town; and banners were hung with slogans like "Keep fit. Don't spit." One newspaper intoned: "Efforts to eliminate spitting will not only clear the capital ground of phlegm, but purify minds and raise the nation's moral standards."

In the 1990s, when more and more Chinese began traveling abroad, the government published a booklet on proper behavior. It advised, "Do not spit in public. If you must...spit in your palm." Perhaps the most serious anti-spitting campaign was launched during he SARS outbreak in 2003, when spitting was considered a health hazard as well as a nasty habit. As part of the “Directive on Launching Activities to Transform Vile Habits” launched by the Chinese Communist Party Central Committee’s Spiritual Civilization Office, stiff fines were imposed, newspapers were filled with anti-spitting stories and street committees were told on the look for spitters. There were even reports of old women spraying sidewalk spit spots with disinfectant.

In the campaign to win the 2008 Olympics an effort was made to get Chinese to stop spitting. The argument was made that Chinese will lose face and foreigners will look down on them unless they curb the habit. A book called Etiquette for Modern Chinese exhorted readers not to spit if China was to be perceived as an advanced nation.

In 2006, Beijing stepped up its anti-spitting campaign in an effort to eliminate the habit by the start of the 2008 Olympics. The effort involved setting up trash boxes every 100 meters on major streets and providing sanitary bags for people to spit into on buses, taxis and in public areas.


Puking, Urinating, and Blowing One's Nose in China


Blowing your nose in public is considered highly offensive. If you have the sniffles or are stuffed up, it is best to excuse yourself and blow your nose in a rest room. Even so Some Chinese blow their noses into their fingers and on curtains. Yawning loudly and chewing gum in public are also considered rude. A guidebook for Chinese advised them: “Don’t clean your ears in public.”

Although less common than it once was, public urination and public puking for men is no big deal. According to Theroux the Chinese have a "prayerful way" of puking, "softy and slowly vomiting, with their heads down and their hands folded."


EXPOSED BELLIES, SPITTING, PAJAMAS AND BAD MANNERS IN CHINA - China | Facts and Details

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Chinese and personal hygiene ..? they are the worst
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International hygiene study: scores for personal and household hygiene in 12 countries presented | Sanitation Updates
LOL this is why I call this study a joke. Indian being 2nd? LMAO

Personal hygiene - a joke for Indians!

No matter how hard you try to stay up to the mark with your personal hygiene standards but if you are in India, it’s just not possible. At least in most cases, you’d be left complaining, cribbing and despite all this, feeling helpless for not being able to do anything about it.

In most cases, people themselves are ignorant and reluctant to maintain a good personal hygiene whereas in other cases, Indian living standards are such that such concerns hold no relevance. Read for yourself and get a reality check on where we stand in terms of personal hygiene.

It’s a given that you are supposed to wash hands before sitting for any of the meals. But how many people follow this. Agreed that the artificially processed hand sanitizers have made the task much easier but even then, don’t know why most people feel reluctant to buy one and keep it with them always.

Noticing a man peeing in public is one of the most common sights on Indians roads and streets. But the point is most of these men won’t really bother to wash hands after this nature’s call. Usually it’s the drivers, who would stop the cars on the roads, get relieved and sit back in their cars and continue driving with those dirty hands only. EWWW!

Not many salons and parlours use disposable towels and bed sheets and most of them use it again and again for the clients. Though all these are washed regularly yet you’d often find stained sheets laid on the bed or stinky towels being given to you. Don’t know if this is the kind of service these salons charge their customers for.

You may love to indulge in street food treat once in a while but have you ever bothered to check if these street food vendors maintain any standards of hygiene. Using gloves is like the last option available for these people. And then you’d be the first one to crib if you fall sick.

Go to a shoe shop and you’d see endless customers trying on various shoes without socks. Another big concern if you talk about personal hygiene. You never know if any customer might be suffering from a skin disorder, which can get transferred to you with so much ease.

Forget shoes, trying lingerie (especially bra) is another common practice and most local shops don’t give you any sanitized coverings to be used while trying these inner wear. This is disgusting. Imagine someone with highly bad body odor trying a piece and then leaving it for others to try it on. *SIC*

Public toilets are another mess if you talk about personal hygiene. Don’t forget that most of these public convenience booths on roads and metro stations charge you for using it, but surprisingly, no one is accountable when it comes to keeping it clean and tidy. For that matter, the restrooms in shopping malls also often run out of toilet paper roll and liquid soap.

Travel by any means of public transport – metro, trains or buses and you’d realize how particular (read ill-mannered) are people about their personal hygiene standards. Stinking like a pig yet having the guts to stand as close as possible to another person, most people would be drenched in sweat and still have no shame or common sense to use deodorants.


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Indians have different standards of personal hygiene to Westerners, says Commonwealth Games official

The hue and cry over the state of Delhi’s Commonwealth Games athletes’ village reflect cultural differences in personal hygiene between Indians and Westerners, the Games’ official spokesman has said. He was referring to the objections of teams from Britain, New Zealand, Australia, and the Commonwealth Games Federation itself, that their accommodation in Delhi is “******”.

Pictures on the BBC news website show muddy dog paw prints on the beds, runny brown liquid in the sinks, puddles on the bathroom floors and what appears to be human excrement on a shower floor. “Everyone has different standards about cleanliness. The Westerners have different standards, we have different standards,” said Lalit Bhanot, the Delhi Games’ spokesman.

It’s a touchy subject, but I believe there may be some truth in, and it has little to do with wealth or poverty. I have seen neighbours in posh Delhi colonies – whose homes are worth millions of pounds – throw rubbish over their gates onto the road outside. Their homes inside might be spotless, but they do not believe their have any responsibility for the world beyond their walls.

My friend Rahul Verma, who, I think, has the world’s best job – street food columnist for The Hindu newspaper – recently warned my wife and I that we should use hand-sanitiser during our food sorties into Old Delhi, and avoid raw onion relish with our kebabs – he had caught hepatitis several times, he said, and feared ever getting it again. It is rife in raw vegetables in India because many people do not have access to proper toilets, and often rinse their hands with water without troubling the soap. Some of these people are, unfortunately, also involved in the preparation of food.

The water in which the vegetables are washed, and flecked regularly to keep them fresh, may contain traces of sewage. Many Indians have grown to tolerate water which would make most Westerners violently ill. It’s a strange state of affairs because the British who first settled in India during the Raj were considered dirty by Indians, who introduced many of their rulers to the joys of soap and shampoo – which is a hindi word.

That said, I do believe our obsession with personal hygiene reflects a sapping of Western strength. Indian and Chinese managers are taking over Africa, working in conditions which would not have troubled our colonial ancestors, but would terrify our modern businessmen. They are not so troubled by cockroaches, they do not fear mosquitoes, and they do not require the army of household staff a British expatriate demands as the price of leaving Blighty.

I remember once taking a wonderful walk around Old Delhi with the legendary late Nigel Hankin, a soldier during the Raj who decided to stay on. He told me that he had always drunk Indian tap water and was never ill. He said when he was in the army only the officers got sick because they never ‘had any grit’ in their food. Nigel, however, lived to be 87 and was in rude health to the end.

India may be a bit smelly, and it may be very dirty in places, but while its hardy businessmen are taking over the world, ours are still washing their hands and looking for a clean towel. As we once said, but have probably now forgotten, where there’s muck, there’s brass, and we need a lot more than we have.

Indians have different standards of personal hygiene to Westerners, says Commonwealth Games official – Telegraph Blogs


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Contradictions in the Indian concept of hygiene



For those of you old enough to remember the film, there is a telling piece of dialogue in Junoon, Shyam Benegal’s 1978 movie in which Nafisa Ali made her stunning debut. The plot is set in the background of the 1857 war of independence and Ali plays the role of a young English girl with whom Shashi Kapoor—a married Indian nationalist—becomes completely obsessed.

The line, which has stayed with me through these years, is spoken by Kapoor’s aunt, who disapproves of her nephew’s infatuation. It goes something like this: “These English! They use toilet paper.”

The wipers and the washers marked an ideological divide between the British and the Indians—with each side convinced of their own cultural superiority.

For the Indians, the wipers or the English, were the ultimate infidels, uncaring of personal hygiene. For the washers, cleanliness is next to godliness. No worship—Hindu or Muslim—begins without some form of ablution. And personal cleanliness is the key to salvation.

The dialogue from Junoon came back to me after reading Winifred Gallagher’s review of two books on personal hygiene—Clean: A History of Personal Hygiene and Purity by Virginia Smith (Oxford University Press) and The Dirt on Clean: An Unsanitized History by Katherine Ashenburg (North Point Press) in the winter 2008 issue of The Wilson Quarterly.

The books document the West’s discovery of personal hygiene and the dark ages between the 16th and the 19th centuries when bathing was an anathema, with doctors declaring that it caused sickness and disease.
Even today, the French apparently continue to be careless about their daily bath—something that could explain the evolution of the country’s perfume industry.

As Indians, we are fond of talking about our cultural advancement by pointing to the Great Bath at Mohenjo-Daro as evidence. While our people were bathing and had evolved a sophisticated sanitation system in our earliest cities, Europeans were (and are) still to discover the rudiments of personal hygiene.

Yet, I can’t help but wonder at our laxity where public hygiene is concerned. We wash our hands before and after every meal.

We have concepts that are entirely alien to much of the world: concepts such as jootha, which cannot really be translated into English (when I drink water directly from a bottle, I make sure my lips don’t touch the rim, otherwise it will become jootha and no one else will be able to drink from the same bottle).

When we take off our slippers at the entrance to our homes, we do so out of a sense of not wanting to drag the dirt from the streets outside within the sanctum of our dwelling spaces.

But let’s face it, our streets are ******. Over 40 years since V.S. Naipaul noted in An Area of Darkness that “Indians defecate everywhere”, little seems to have changed.

Part of the problem, of course, is that we simply don’t have enough toilets, despite Bindeshwar Pathak’s pioneering efforts with Sulabh Shauchalaya, whose mission is as much to provide public toilets as it is to liberate human “scavengers” from manually lifting and disposing of human excreta.

According to Sulabh’s own website, even today 110 million Indian houses have no toilets while another 10 million make do with bucket toilets that cause disease.

But that’s only half the story. You have only to visit a public toilet at one of our swanky new airports to see the whole picture.
We continue to squat on the floor, we forget to flush and the people employed to keep our loos clean are very often too busy chatting or taking a tea break instead of doing their job.

And it’s not just toilets. Is there any other nation that is as obsessed with spitting as ours? We step into the streets and are immediately racked with alarming coughs that seem to obligate us to immediately deposit our phlegm in public spaces.

I could go on. In Mumbai, our most cosmopolitan city, local millionaires appoint their homes with imported Italian marble, but wouldn’t dream of chipping in to get their grime-encrusted buildings a coat of fresh paint (that is the landlord’s job; but since many of the apartments are under rent control, can you seriously expect the landlord to bother about keeping his property ship-shape?).

The stairwells of our magnificent glass and steel office buildings are blotched with paan stains. And although we scrub our apartments clean before such major festivals as Diwali, we think nothing of throwing the dirty water and rubbish down into our neighbours’ homes.


In June this year, we saw a full-blown controversy erupt over the location of Gandhiji’s statue next to a dustbin at Madame Tussauds wax museum in London. But, for Gandhiji, public hygiene was inextricably linked to human dignity. Taking up sanitation works, including the cleaning of public toilets, was the key to a larger social revolution.

We talk of India as the next global superpower and we point to our sense of personal hygiene as evidence of our cultural superiority. But unless we are as fastidious about our sense of public hygiene, the wipers will continue to still steal a march over us.

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LOL this is why I call this study a joke. Indian being 2nd? LMAO

Personal hygiene - a joke for Indians!

No matter how hard you try to stay up to the mark with your personal hygiene standards but if you are in India, it’s just not possible. At least in most cases, you’d be left complaining, cribbing and despite all this, feeling helpless for not being able to do anything about it.

In most cases, people themselves are ignorant and reluctant to maintain a good personal hygiene whereas in other cases, Indian living standards are such that such concerns hold no relevance. Read for yourself and get a reality check on where we stand in terms of personal hygiene.

It’s a given that you are supposed to wash hands before sitting for any of the meals. But how many people follow this. Agreed that the artificially processed hand sanitizers have made the task much easier but even then, don’t know why most people feel reluctant to buy one and keep it with them always.

Noticing a man peeing in public is one of the most common sights on Indians roads and streets. But the point is most of these men won’t really bother to wash hands after this nature’s call. Usually it’s the drivers, who would stop the cars on the roads, get relieved and sit back in their cars and continue driving with those dirty hands only. EWWW!

Not many salons and parlours use disposable towels and bed sheets and most of them use it again and again for the clients. Though all these are washed regularly yet you’d often find stained sheets laid on the bed or stinky towels being given to you. Don’t know if this is the kind of service these salons charge their customers for.

You may love to indulge in street food treat once in a while but have you ever bothered to check if these street food vendors maintain any standards of hygiene. Using gloves is like the last option available for these people. And then you’d be the first one to crib if you fall sick.

Go to a shoe shop and you’d see endless customers trying on various shoes without socks. Another big concern if you talk about personal hygiene. You never know if any customer might be suffering from a skin disorder, which can get transferred to you with so much ease.

Forget shoes, trying lingerie (especially bra) is another common practice and most local shops don’t give you any sanitized coverings to be used while trying these inner wear. This is disgusting. Imagine someone with highly bad body odor trying a piece and then leaving it for others to try it on. *SIC*

Public toilets are another mess if you talk about personal hygiene. Don’t forget that most of these public convenience booths on roads and metro stations charge you for using it, but surprisingly, no one is accountable when it comes to keeping it clean and tidy. For that matter, the restrooms in shopping malls also often run out of toilet paper roll and liquid soap.

Travel by any means of public transport – metro, trains or buses and you’d realize how particular (read ill-mannered) are people about their personal hygiene standards. Stinking like a pig yet having the guts to stand as close as possible to another person, most people would be drenched in sweat and still have no shame or common sense to use deodorants.


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Indians have different standards of personal hygiene to Westerners, says Commonwealth Games official

The hue and cry over the state of Delhi’s Commonwealth Games athletes’ village reflect cultural differences in personal hygiene between Indians and Westerners, the Games’ official spokesman has said. He was referring to the objections of teams from Britain, New Zealand, Australia, and the Commonwealth Games Federation itself, that their accommodation in Delhi is “filthy”.

Pictures on the BBC news website show muddy dog paw prints on the beds, runny brown liquid in the sinks, puddles on the bathroom floors and what appears to be human excrement on a shower floor. “Everyone has different standards about cleanliness. The Westerners have different standards, we have different standards,” said Lalit Bhanot, the Delhi Games’ spokesman.

It’s a touchy subject, but I believe there may be some truth in, and it has little to do with wealth or poverty. I have seen neighbours in posh Delhi colonies – whose homes are worth millions of pounds – throw rubbish over their gates onto the road outside. Their homes inside might be spotless, but they do not believe their have any responsibility for the world beyond their walls.

My friend Rahul Verma, who, I think, has the world’s best job – street food columnist for The Hindu newspaper – recently warned my wife and I that we should use hand-sanitiser during our food sorties into Old Delhi, and avoid raw onion relish with our kebabs – he had caught hepatitis several times, he said, and feared ever getting it again. It is rife in raw vegetables in India because many people do not have access to proper toilets, and often rinse their hands with water without troubling the soap. Some of these people are, unfortunately, also involved in the preparation of food.

The water in which the vegetables are washed, and flecked regularly to keep them fresh, may contain traces of sewage. Many Indians have grown to tolerate water which would make most Westerners violently ill. It’s a strange state of affairs because the British who first settled in India during the Raj were considered dirty by Indians, who introduced many of their rulers to the joys of soap and shampoo – which is a hindi word.

That said, I do believe our obsession with personal hygiene reflects a sapping of Western strength. Indian and Chinese managers are taking over Africa, working in conditions which would not have troubled our colonial ancestors, but would terrify our modern businessmen. They are not so troubled by cockroaches, they do not fear mosquitoes, and they do not require the army of household staff a British expatriate demands as the price of leaving Blighty.

I remember once taking a wonderful walk around Old Delhi with the legendary late Nigel Hankin, a soldier during the Raj who decided to stay on. He told me that he had always drunk Indian tap water and was never ill. He said when he was in the army only the officers got sick because they never ‘had any grit’ in their food. Nigel, however, lived to be 87 and was in rude health to the end.

India may be a bit smelly, and it may be very dirty in places, but while its hardy businessmen are taking over the world, ours are still washing their hands and looking for a clean towel. As we once said, but have probably now forgotten, where there’s muck, there’s brass, and we need a lot more than we have.

Indians have different standards of personal hygiene to Westerners, says Commonwealth Games official – Telegraph Blogs


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Contradictions in the Indian concept of hygiene



For those of you old enough to remember the film, there is a telling piece of dialogue in Junoon, Shyam Benegal’s 1978 movie in which Nafisa Ali made her stunning debut. The plot is set in the background of the 1857 war of independence and Ali plays the role of a young English girl with whom Shashi Kapoor—a married Indian nationalist—becomes completely obsessed.

The line, which has stayed with me through these years, is spoken by Kapoor’s aunt, who disapproves of her nephew’s infatuation. It goes something like this: “These English! They use toilet paper.”

The wipers and the washers marked an ideological divide between the British and the Indians—with each side convinced of their own cultural superiority.

For the Indians, the wipers or the English, were the ultimate infidels, uncaring of personal hygiene. For the washers, cleanliness is next to godliness. No worship—Hindu or Muslim—begins without some form of ablution. And personal cleanliness is the key to salvation.

The dialogue from Junoon came back to me after reading Winifred Gallagher’s review of two books on personal hygiene—Clean: A History of Personal Hygiene and Purity by Virginia Smith (Oxford University Press) and The Dirt on Clean: An Unsanitized History by Katherine Ashenburg (North Point Press) in the winter 2008 issue of The Wilson Quarterly.

The books document the West’s discovery of personal hygiene and the dark ages between the 16th and the 19th centuries when bathing was an anathema, with doctors declaring that it caused sickness and disease.
Even today, the French apparently continue to be careless about their daily bath—something that could explain the evolution of the country’s perfume industry.

As Indians, we are fond of talking about our cultural advancement by pointing to the Great Bath at Mohenjo-Daro as evidence. While our people were bathing and had evolved a sophisticated sanitation system in our earliest cities, Europeans were (and are) still to discover the rudiments of personal hygiene.

Yet, I can’t help but wonder at our laxity where public hygiene is concerned. We wash our hands before and after every meal.

We have concepts that are entirely alien to much of the world: concepts such as jootha, which cannot really be translated into English (when I drink water directly from a bottle, I make sure my lips don’t touch the rim, otherwise it will become jootha and no one else will be able to drink from the same bottle).

When we take off our slippers at the entrance to our homes, we do so out of a sense of not wanting to drag the dirt from the streets outside within the sanctum of our dwelling spaces.

But let’s face it, our streets are ******. Over 40 years since V.S. Naipaul noted in An Area of Darkness that “Indians defecate everywhere”, little seems to have changed.

Part of the problem, of course, is that we simply don’t have enough toilets, despite Bindeshwar Pathak’s pioneering efforts with Sulabh Shauchalaya, whose mission is as much to provide public toilets as it is to liberate human “scavengers” from manually lifting and disposing of human excreta.

According to Sulabh’s own website, even today 110 million Indian houses have no toilets while another 10 million make do with bucket toilets that cause disease.

But that’s only half the story. You have only to visit a public toilet at one of our swanky new airports to see the whole picture.
We continue to squat on the floor, we forget to flush and the people employed to keep our loos clean are very often too busy chatting or taking a tea break instead of doing their job.

And it’s not just toilets. Is there any other nation that is as obsessed with spitting as ours? We step into the streets and are immediately racked with alarming coughs that seem to obligate us to immediately deposit our phlegm in public spaces.

I could go on. In Mumbai, our most cosmopolitan city, local millionaires appoint their homes with imported Italian marble, but wouldn’t dream of chipping in to get their grime-encrusted buildings a coat of fresh paint (that is the landlord’s job; but since many of the apartments are under rent control, can you seriously expect the landlord to bother about keeping his property ship-shape?).

The stairwells of our magnificent glass and steel office buildings are blotched with paan stains. And although we scrub our apartments clean before such major festivals as Diwali, we think nothing of throwing the dirty water and rubbish down into our neighbours’ homes.


In June this year, we saw a full-blown controversy erupt over the location of Gandhiji’s statue next to a dustbin at Madame Tussauds wax museum in London. But, for Gandhiji, public hygiene was inextricably linked to human dignity. Taking up sanitation works, including the cleaning of public toilets, was the key to a larger social revolution.

We talk of India as the next global superpower and we point to our sense of personal hygiene as evidence of our cultural superiority. But unless we are as fastidious about our sense of public hygiene, the wipers will continue to still steal a march over us.

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IT WAS A GIVEN FACT THAT INDIAN HAS STINKY BODY ODOR. LMAO
 
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We are an open (defecation) culture, we don't need to fabricate anything like the CPP propaganda machine. This is something only free men know about.

Chinese culture of prostitution, incest, cannibalism, impotence and hygiene is well know to the world. Do you really think winning a few medals in Olympics is going to change that ?

Huh, a typical "caste slave" lecture us regarding freedom, thanks a lot, damn rich indeed:lol:
btw, i did a little correction for your post to sounds more appropriate, don't forget to thanks me though:lol:
 
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From Spitting to Sh*ting: China’s Ten Worst Subway*Manners | RocketNews24

1. Spitting (681 votes)
2. Defecating in the train or in the station (661 votes)
3. Smoking on the train or in the station (581 votes)
4. Crowding onto the train without waiting in line (553 votes)
5. Bringing something stinky the train (519 votes)
6. Lying down across several seats (514 votes)
7. Bringing pets onto the train (451 votes)
7. Spitting out gum in the train (451 votes)
9. Throwing trash around the train (434 votes)
10. Throwing trash onto the tracks (415 votes)
 
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why dont you brag living in taj mahal?

that is a bizzare mudsling. indians drink cow urine and eat corpses as shown on utubes

you left hands and right hands are well defined, even after some serious personal business and then eat your food with five finger slurps

We define cusines as something different from cheerleaders - who eat decaying corpses and sh*t laced with indian curry, and they are eating partners with rats!

you cheerleaders eat dogs while we are cracking down on selling and consumption of pets in China!

LOL.....bragging is chinese trait. You asked me where I stay :lol: But with all the bad press you get for eating household pet and pests you need all the press you need.

I have posted facts while you have resorted to bizzare mudslinging. Chinese eating urine soaked eggs as a delicacy is well documented. (Among other things)

We do eat with our hands. We eat healthy vegetables and well cooked meals. Not penis and dog testicles that need to be picked up with a stick. Do you eat burgers with your sticks too ? LOL

What you define as 'cusine' is what we define as garbage. Dogs and other animals define it as 'bad smelling $hit'. Chinese eat it !!!

India is largely Vegetarian so most of us don't even eat chicken :lol: ..... but we do have lots of pests that the chinese could consume. Lizards, rats and cockroaches. Just leave our tigers alone.

Huh, a typical "caste slave" lecture us regarding freedom, thanks a lot, damn rich indeed:lol:
btw, i did a little correction for your post to sounds more appropriate, don't forget to thanks me though:lol:

typical CPP slave talking big about hygine and civilization. LOL.

Pigs eat our defecation, you eat those pigs :woot: ..............you decide which is worse :lol:
 
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India You Disgust Me! | Rakhee Ghelani

Yes, I realise that title is harsh, but this week India really is just making me feel sick.

Today I read this article about a woman who is 7 months pregnant, and when her in-laws “accidentally” found out she was carrying a girl (because pre-natal sex determination is illegal in India) they started injecting her with HIV infected blood and telling her it was treat her anaemia. It is not yet known if the child has also contracted the disease, but regardless this kind of behaviour is just sickening. I cannot even begin to understand what kind of sick and twisted person comes up with that plan of action and follows through with it.

Then of course there was the much publicised rape case where a five year girl in Delhi was not only locked away and raped for days, but doctors found pieces of a candle and a bottle inside her. Allegedly the police tried to stop the parents from registering the case by offering them Rs2,000 ($36) and some tea. Trying to defend his state the Union Home Minister Suhsilkimar Shinde said in Parliament on Monday ”such incidents (of rape) have been reported from other parts of the country also”.

Yes they have. In fact another five year old was brutally raped in Madhya Pradesh this week too, she is now fighting for her life in hospital. Just because rapes happen all over India doesn’t make it right.

Then again, a woman is stomped on by her in-laws because she was believed to be carrying a girl (according to a “godman”). She lost her baby.


And the list goes on and on……………………

So what is about India that makes people behave like this?


Personally I believe it occurs because a significant population don’t even see women and children as human beings. I have written before about how women are treated here, but it seems that children also get the same raw deal. I am yet to read hundreds of stories of men being brutally raped or abused by their in-laws.


Much of the protest and social comment seems to be pointing the finger of blame on the police and lack of law enforcement or control. I find this argument to be a dangerous one to make. It assumes that people want to behave like this but need to be controlled so they don’t.

In my opinion it assumes that many people are intrinsically evil, because I can’t even imagine having the frame of mind where I would want to shove a bottle inside a five year girl or step on the stomach of anyone (let alone a pregnant woman) or inject a terminal disease into another. This isn’t just lack of control, this mind-set is pure evil.

So what is it in this population that makes it possible for this behaviour to continue at the rate that it does? After all we aren’t just talking about once-off incidents, but ones that happen every single day. What do you think?
 
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From Spitting to Sh*ting: China’s Ten Worst Subway*Manners | RocketNews24

1. Spitting (681 votes)
2. Defecating in the train or in the station (661 votes)
3. Smoking on the train or in the station (581 votes)
4. Crowding onto the train without waiting in line (553 votes)
5. Bringing something stinky the train (519 votes)
6. Lying down across several seats (514 votes)
7. Bringing pets onto the train (451 votes)
7. Spitting out gum in the train (451 votes)
9. Throwing trash around the train (434 votes)
10. Throwing trash onto the tracks (415 votes)

cheerleaders dump along the railway tracks and spit their stinky paan juice on walls and bridges which have caused the steel on the tracks and bridges rusting to the brinks of breaking and total collapse!

Human spit build-up could cause bridge collapse
 
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cheerleaders dump along the railway tracks and spit their stinky paan juice on walls and bridges which have caused the steel on the tracks and bridges rusting to the brinks of breaking and total collapse!

You guys defecate INSIDE THE TRAIN :woot: .........our worst crime is to defecate outside on the tracks due to poverty.
 
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You guys defecate INSIDE THE TRAIN :woot: .........our worst crime is to defecate outside on the tracks due to poverty.

Yes they favor subways trains for that :woot:, apparently these guys do not know what the subways are for. They also love to spit and do some loud noised in subways.
 
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