Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash

[aziqbal]

Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash​

Get ready for another uncontrolled rocket fall.

A Chinese Long March 5B rocket carrying the Mengtian space station module rolls out to the launch pad on Oct. 25, 2022. (Image credit: OurSpace)

China's Mengtian space station module is on the launch pad, being readied for a reported liftoff on Oct. 31 atop a powerful Long March 5B rocket from the Wenchang Spacecraft Launch Site on the island of Hainan.


The liftoff will be a big one for China; Mengtian is the third and final module for the nation's Tiangong space station.

Many eyes will therefore be on the launch — and also on its aftermath. When their missions are over, Long March 5B core stages fall back to Earth uncontrolled, so where they land becomes a spin of the roulette wheel.

Guessing game​

Once again, the guessing game of just where on the planet the core stage's fiery reentry will occur is sure to absorb extensive time of space junk trackers — and for good reason.


The Long March 5B core stage is estimated to weigh around 23 tons (21 metric tons). That's about twice the mass of an average school bus, or the empty mass of a Boeing 737. Experts predict that 20% to 40% of the core stage will survive reentry and hit the surface. But which surface? Ocean or land?

By design, the core stage of the Long March 5B reaches orbit rather than coming back down shortly after liftoff. Consequently, previous launches of the hefty rocket have resulted in uncontrolled reentries as the core stage naturally falls out of orbit a week or so later, risking serious damage on the ground.

A Chinese Long March 5B rocket launches the Wentian module of China's Tiangong space station on July 24, 2022.

International law​

In 2020, debris from a Long March 5B landed in Cote d'Ivoire, damaging several buildings. And this year, some pieces hit land in Indonesia and Malaysia, noted Harry Boneham, an aerospace analyst at the London-headquartered analytics company GlobalData.

"Under international law, specifically the Convention on International Liability for Damage Caused by Space Objects, which elaborates on Article VII of the Outer Space Treaty, China would be liable to pay compensation for damage caused by its space objects on the surface of the Earth," Boneham told Inside Outer Space. "However, enforcement would be a difficult process."

Looking forward, it is unlikely that China will move away from using the Long March 5B.

It is China's most powerful rocket and currently its sole option for heavy-lift launches. There are only two more launches of the Long March 5B officially planned, including the Mengtian mission. China is also planning on launching a space telescope, called Xuntian, in 2023 using the big booster.

But, given China's ambition to establish a leading presence in space, further Long March 5B launches would not be a surprise, Boneham said.

"China is developing the super-heavy lift Long March 9, but first flight is not expected until the end of the decade, and low Earth orbit launches would be inefficient except for extremely heavy payloads. Additionally, China is beginning to develop reusable rocket boosters, which would clearly remove the issue of uncontrolled booster reentry," Boneham said.

"However, development is at an early stage and only appears to be focused on the smaller Long March 2, probably for crew and cargo transfer," he added. "For the foreseeable future, for carrying heavy payloads to low Earth orbit this decade, the Long March 5B is China's main option."

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Given China's continued use of the Long March 5B variant, Boneham said that there are actions that could be taken to limit the risk to life and property from reentering debris.

"For instance, during the last reentry of a Long March 5B booster in July 2022, it was reported that Chinese authorities did not share details regarding specific trajectory information with the wider global community, which would have allowed a degree of forewarning in areas at risk from debris," Boneham said. "Refusing to share this information does not ameliorate the reputation(opens in new tab) of the People's Republic of China when it comes to conduct in space."

Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash

Get ready for another uncontrolled rocket fall.

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[epebble]

Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash​

Get ready for another uncontrolled rocket fall.

A Chinese Long March 5B rocket carrying the Mengtian space station module rolls out to the launch pad on Oct. 25, 2022. (Image credit: OurSpace)

China's Mengtian space station module is on the launch pad, being readied for a reported liftoff on Oct. 31 atop a powerful Long March 5B rocket from the Wenchang Spacecraft Launch Site on the island of Hainan.


The liftoff will be a big one for China; Mengtian is the third and final module for the nation's Tiangong space station.

Many eyes will therefore be on the launch — and also on its aftermath. When their missions are over, Long March 5B core stages fall back to Earth uncontrolled, so where they land becomes a spin of the roulette wheel.

Guessing game​

Once again, the guessing game of just where on the planet the core stage's fiery reentry will occur is sure to absorb extensive time of space junk trackers — and for good reason.


The Long March 5B core stage is estimated to weigh around 23 tons (21 metric tons). That's about twice the mass of an average school bus, or the empty mass of a Boeing 737. Experts predict that 20% to 40% of the core stage will survive reentry and hit the surface. But which surface? Ocean or land?

By design, the core stage of the Long March 5B reaches orbit rather than coming back down shortly after liftoff. Consequently, previous launches of the hefty rocket have resulted in uncontrolled reentries as the core stage naturally falls out of orbit a week or so later, risking serious damage on the ground.

A Chinese Long March 5B rocket launches the Wentian module of China's Tiangong space station on July 24, 2022.

International law​

In 2020, debris from a Long March 5B landed in Cote d'Ivoire, damaging several buildings. And this year, some pieces hit land in Indonesia and Malaysia, noted Harry Boneham, an aerospace analyst at the London-headquartered analytics company GlobalData.

"Under international law, specifically the Convention on International Liability for Damage Caused by Space Objects, which elaborates on Article VII of the Outer Space Treaty, China would be liable to pay compensation for damage caused by its space objects on the surface of the Earth," Boneham told Inside Outer Space. "However, enforcement would be a difficult process."

Looking forward, it is unlikely that China will move away from using the Long March 5B.

It is China's most powerful rocket and currently its sole option for heavy-lift launches. There are only two more launches of the Long March 5B officially planned, including the Mengtian mission. China is also planning on launching a space telescope, called Xuntian, in 2023 using the big booster.

But, given China's ambition to establish a leading presence in space, further Long March 5B launches would not be a surprise, Boneham said.

"China is developing the super-heavy lift Long March 9, but first flight is not expected until the end of the decade, and low Earth orbit launches would be inefficient except for extremely heavy payloads. Additionally, China is beginning to develop reusable rocket boosters, which would clearly remove the issue of uncontrolled booster reentry," Boneham said.

"However, development is at an early stage and only appears to be focused on the smaller Long March 2, probably for crew and cargo transfer," he added. "For the foreseeable future, for carrying heavy payloads to low Earth orbit this decade, the Long March 5B is China's main option."

Share details​

Given China's continued use of the Long March 5B variant, Boneham said that there are actions that could be taken to limit the risk to life and property from reentering debris.

"For instance, during the last reentry of a Long March 5B booster in July 2022, it was reported that Chinese authorities did not share details regarding specific trajectory information with the wider global community, which would have allowed a degree of forewarning in areas at risk from debris," Boneham said. "Refusing to share this information does not ameliorate the reputation(opens in new tab) of the People's Republic of China when it comes to conduct in space."

Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash

Get ready for another uncontrolled rocket fall.

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I read about reentry, but not about any damages. Do you have a link?

 

[etylo]

Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash​

Get ready for another uncontrolled rocket fall.

A Chinese Long March 5B rocket carrying the Mengtian space station module rolls out to the launch pad on Oct. 25, 2022. (Image credit: OurSpace)

China's Mengtian space station module is on the launch pad, being readied for a reported liftoff on Oct. 31 atop a powerful Long March 5B rocket from the Wenchang Spacecraft Launch Site on the island of Hainan.


The liftoff will be a big one for China; Mengtian is the third and final module for the nation's Tiangong space station.

Many eyes will therefore be on the launch — and also on its aftermath. When their missions are over, Long March 5B core stages fall back to Earth uncontrolled, so where they land becomes a spin of the roulette wheel.

Guessing game​

Once again, the guessing game of just where on the planet the core stage's fiery reentry will occur is sure to absorb extensive time of space junk trackers — and for good reason.


The Long March 5B core stage is estimated to weigh around 23 tons (21 metric tons). That's about twice the mass of an average school bus, or the empty mass of a Boeing 737. Experts predict that 20% to 40% of the core stage will survive reentry and hit the surface. But which surface? Ocean or land?

By design, the core stage of the Long March 5B reaches orbit rather than coming back down shortly after liftoff. Consequently, previous launches of the hefty rocket have resulted in uncontrolled reentries as the core stage naturally falls out of orbit a week or so later, risking serious damage on the ground.

A Chinese Long March 5B rocket launches the Wentian module of China's Tiangong space station on July 24, 2022.

International law​

In 2020, debris from a Long March 5B landed in Cote d'Ivoire, damaging several buildings. And this year, some pieces hit land in Indonesia and Malaysia, noted Harry Boneham, an aerospace analyst at the London-headquartered analytics company GlobalData.

"Under international law, specifically the Convention on International Liability for Damage Caused by Space Objects, which elaborates on Article VII of the Outer Space Treaty, China would be liable to pay compensation for damage caused by its space objects on the surface of the Earth," Boneham told Inside Outer Space. "However, enforcement would be a difficult process."

Looking forward, it is unlikely that China will move away from using the Long March 5B.

It is China's most powerful rocket and currently its sole option for heavy-lift launches. There are only two more launches of the Long March 5B officially planned, including the Mengtian mission. China is also planning on launching a space telescope, called Xuntian, in 2023 using the big booster.

But, given China's ambition to establish a leading presence in space, further Long March 5B launches would not be a surprise, Boneham said.

"China is developing the super-heavy lift Long March 9, but first flight is not expected until the end of the decade, and low Earth orbit launches would be inefficient except for extremely heavy payloads. Additionally, China is beginning to develop reusable rocket boosters, which would clearly remove the issue of uncontrolled booster reentry," Boneham said.

"However, development is at an early stage and only appears to be focused on the smaller Long March 2, probably for crew and cargo transfer," he added. "For the foreseeable future, for carrying heavy payloads to low Earth orbit this decade, the Long March 5B is China's main option."

Share details​

Given China's continued use of the Long March 5B variant, Boneham said that there are actions that could be taken to limit the risk to life and property from reentering debris.

"For instance, during the last reentry of a Long March 5B booster in July 2022, it was reported that Chinese authorities did not share details regarding specific trajectory information with the wider global community, which would have allowed a degree of forewarning in areas at risk from debris," Boneham said. "Refusing to share this information does not ameliorate the reputation(opens in new tab) of the People's Republic of China when it comes to conduct in space."

Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash

Get ready for another uncontrolled rocket fall.

www.space.com

What about US space junks from US rockets, those garbage are good ones eh.

 

[epebble]

What about US space junks from US rockets, those garbage are good ones eh.

Most large rockets incorporate technology to steer the falling debris to unpopulated areas like deep oceans.

 

[Beast]

Most large rockets incorporate technology to steer the falling debris to unpopulated areas like deep oceans.

Sorry, US second stage don't have such technology. While China long march 5 do have such technology to avoid the land

Rocket Debris Fall On Sheep Farm In Australia, Loud Bang Heard By Locals: Report

Days before pieces of what is believed to be a Chinese rocket fall on Earth, parts of space junk were found at a sheep farm in Australia.

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Days before pieces of what is believed to be a Chinese rocket fall on Earth, parts of space junk were found at a sheep farm in Australia. It is believed to be one of the pieces of a SpaceX rocket, according to a report from ABC South-East NSW.

What about US space junks from US rockets, those garbage are good ones eh.

And there you go and a good slap on american cheerleaders.

Days before pieces of what is believed to be a Chinese rocket fall on Earth, parts of space junk were found at a sheep farm in Australia. It is believed to be one of the pieces of a SpaceX rocket, according to a report from ABC South-East NSW.

 

[mili]

Sorry, US second stage don't have such technology. While China long march 5 do have such technology to avoid the land

Rocket Debris Fall On Sheep Farm In Australia, Loud Bang Heard By Locals: Report

Days before pieces of what is believed to be a Chinese rocket fall on Earth, parts of space junk were found at a sheep farm in Australia.

www.google.com

Days before pieces of what is believed to be a Chinese rocket fall on Earth, parts of space junk were found at a sheep farm in Australia. It is believed to be one of the pieces of a SpaceX rocket, according to a report from ABC South-East NSW.


And there you go and a good slap on american cheerleaders.

Days before pieces of what is believed to be a Chinese rocket fall on Earth, parts of space junk were found at a sheep farm in Australia. It is believed to be one of the pieces of a SpaceX rocket, according to a report from ABC South-East NSW.

Not that usa rockets dont have those tech, they do. Just that they only work well on paper like most usa tech these days.
Same reason we see them cry like this whenever LM5 launches. lol

 

[mili]

Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash​

Get ready for another uncontrolled rocket fall.
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This & the story about fbi guy accusing China.
When u have 2 stories in same day of usa unable to do anything but cry over China tech, u know who is losing badly in this race. lol

 

[beijingwalker]

Somehow debris from Chinese rockets always fall in the oceans while US debris always fall on houses

 

[kuge]

another boring smearing piece...
hey try something new like the space junk falls on @aziqbal 's house roof

 

[Leishangthem]

What a low life troll.

 

[JSCh]

Similar piece landed in Indonesia.

 

[epebble]

Similar piece landed in Indonesia.

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I think Musk should quit that Twitter and focus more on SpaceX. It is not good if he plans to launch hundreds of Falcon 9s and it starts falling on people. He shouldn't cheap out on proper reentry planning.

 

[Beast]

I think Musk should quit that Twitter and focus more on SpaceX. It is not good if he plans to launch hundreds of Falcon 9s and it starts falling on people. He shouldn't cheap out on proper reentry planning.

Dont worry, western media will do whatever it can to make those fall looks like small matter and dont kill anybody while they will magnify China one as serious to mankind and is a threat to whole world.

If Musk rocket kills 1000 people , it will be the fault of Chinese while American and Musk are still saint and savior of the world according to the eyes of western media.

 

[Zarvan]

Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash​

Get ready for another uncontrolled rocket fall.

A Chinese Long March 5B rocket carrying the Mengtian space station module rolls out to the launch pad on Oct. 25, 2022. (Image credit: OurSpace)

China's Mengtian space station module is on the launch pad, being readied for a reported liftoff on Oct. 31 atop a powerful Long March 5B rocket from the Wenchang Spacecraft Launch Site on the island of Hainan.


The liftoff will be a big one for China; Mengtian is the third and final module for the nation's Tiangong space station.

Many eyes will therefore be on the launch — and also on its aftermath. When their missions are over, Long March 5B core stages fall back to Earth uncontrolled, so where they land becomes a spin of the roulette wheel.

Guessing game​

Once again, the guessing game of just where on the planet the core stage's fiery reentry will occur is sure to absorb extensive time of space junk trackers — and for good reason.


The Long March 5B core stage is estimated to weigh around 23 tons (21 metric tons). That's about twice the mass of an average school bus, or the empty mass of a Boeing 737. Experts predict that 20% to 40% of the core stage will survive reentry and hit the surface. But which surface? Ocean or land?

By design, the core stage of the Long March 5B reaches orbit rather than coming back down shortly after liftoff. Consequently, previous launches of the hefty rocket have resulted in uncontrolled reentries as the core stage naturally falls out of orbit a week or so later, risking serious damage on the ground.

A Chinese Long March 5B rocket launches the Wentian module of China's Tiangong space station on July 24, 2022.

International law​

In 2020, debris from a Long March 5B landed in Cote d'Ivoire, damaging several buildings. And this year, some pieces hit land in Indonesia and Malaysia, noted Harry Boneham, an aerospace analyst at the London-headquartered analytics company GlobalData.

"Under international law, specifically the Convention on International Liability for Damage Caused by Space Objects, which elaborates on Article VII of the Outer Space Treaty, China would be liable to pay compensation for damage caused by its space objects on the surface of the Earth," Boneham told Inside Outer Space. "However, enforcement would be a difficult process."

Looking forward, it is unlikely that China will move away from using the Long March 5B.

It is China's most powerful rocket and currently its sole option for heavy-lift launches. There are only two more launches of the Long March 5B officially planned, including the Mengtian mission. China is also planning on launching a space telescope, called Xuntian, in 2023 using the big booster.

But, given China's ambition to establish a leading presence in space, further Long March 5B launches would not be a surprise, Boneham said.

"China is developing the super-heavy lift Long March 9, but first flight is not expected until the end of the decade, and low Earth orbit launches would be inefficient except for extremely heavy payloads. Additionally, China is beginning to develop reusable rocket boosters, which would clearly remove the issue of uncontrolled booster reentry," Boneham said.

"However, development is at an early stage and only appears to be focused on the smaller Long March 2, probably for crew and cargo transfer," he added. "For the foreseeable future, for carrying heavy payloads to low Earth orbit this decade, the Long March 5B is China's main option."

Share details​

Given China's continued use of the Long March 5B variant, Boneham said that there are actions that could be taken to limit the risk to life and property from reentering debris.

"For instance, during the last reentry of a Long March 5B booster in July 2022, it was reported that Chinese authorities did not share details regarding specific trajectory information with the wider global community, which would have allowed a degree of forewarning in areas at risk from debris," Boneham said. "Refusing to share this information does not ameliorate the reputation(opens in new tab) of the People's Republic of China when it comes to conduct in space."

Chinese launch next week will set stage for another big space-junk crash

Get ready for another uncontrolled rocket fall.

www.space.com

Why are you posting one Anti China story after another?

 

[Luosifen]

I'm confused by his behaviour, here he's rabidly anti-China but elsewhere he behaves completely differently:

He still sports China's flag on the other forum