Chinese Harrass U.S. Aircraft In International Airspace

[F-22Raptor]

Personally, I hate this website, but it mentions a few interesting things that happened in the Pacific

Stealth Drone’s Secret Pacific Missions — War Is Boring — Medium

I can't wait to see the RQ-180. I'm not holding my breath to see it anytime soon though.

 

[Aepsilons]

Personally, I hate this website, but it mentions a few interesting things that happened in the Pacific

Stealth Drone’s Secret Pacific Missions — War Is Boring — Medium

...impressive.

 

[sword1947]

We do our job, that's all

 

[OrionHunter]

Dictionaries are nice, aren't they.

That's why my English is par excellence!!

But it's not nice for a PDF 'Think Tank Analyst' not to display his country's flag under his avatar's mug shot.

Being in that exalted position, you need to set an example by adhering to the terms and conditions of PDF and the instructions given by Webby from time to time.

Thanks.

 

[BuddhaPalm]

LOL the failed experiment F-22 can't even supply oxygen to the pilot

A miserable monument to American hubris and stupidity prematurely terminated by the Pentagon.

 

[JSCh]

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“The Chinese side respect the rights of maritime countries in accordance with international laws, but also wishes relevant countries could respect the rights Chinese ships are entitled to enjoy by law,” it added.
US officials have affirmed that the ship is operating legally.
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Perhaps China shouldn't say those words. Enough said.



If you disdain seeing our exercises then why send a spy ship? We have territories in your side of the Pacific if you look it up. China can fly, just don't do something stupid that cost the life of another Chinese pilot.

Highlighted in Red.

 

[pher]

You should ask your Iranian friends about how visible the Raptor is. It flew underneath their jets belly for a few minutes to see their armament, pulled out to the side and told them to go home. They were harassing an American UAV.

Next, your "retaliation" is on who.....? Look around you and realize how bad you've been surrounded. Japan, the Philippines, the Ocean, other neighbors, Afghanistan and India.... I don't think you have a clue about what I am referring to as its very strategic.

Russian's are too busy trying to find a way to sell Oil and Gas to "someone" and keep their economy running under sanctions. Trust me, you can't fight a war when you are having a hard time giving salaries to your soldiers on time.

hahaha, what a pity for US to degrade itself to empty bragging to look strong. Compare China to iran? why not also including iraq and afganistan to show how powerful you are.

One thing you are right, your whole government live on debt, so you really should consider that "you can't fight a war when you are having a hard time giving salaries to your soldiers on time"

We've had F-22s deployed to the region for awhile now. Raptors will have first look/first shot every time against Chinese fighters. China wants no part of F-22s...

blah,blah,blah. sorry, we don't buy it. you already missed your window for bragging.

 

[Viper0011.]

hahaha, what a pity for US to degrade itself to empty bragging to look strong. Compare China to iran? why not also including iraq and afganistan to show how powerful you are.

One thing you are right, your whole government live on debt, so you really should consider that "you can't fight a war when you are having a hard time giving salaries to your soldiers on time"

You are not making any sense. You got too emotional and didn't read my post. No one compared China to Iran. May need to get glasses if you can't read properly (or go to an English medium school there).

Our debt isn't a "money borrow" from a friend. Even though right now it is higher due to the economic related issues that we encountered, but we'll bring it back. We definitely have a lot of opportunities and we create opportunities for the entire world also. So the debt isn't a big deal nor does it worry me. Yea, if we kept getting into more debt on the same pace, I'd be worried 5 years from now. But this amount of debt is easily manageable within 2 years of fiscal control.

 

[pher]

You are not making any sense. You got too emotional and didn't read my post. No one compared China to Iran. May need to get glasses if you can't read properly (or go to an English medium school there).

Our debt isn't a "money borrow" from a friend. Even though right now it is higher due to the economic related issues that we encountered, but we'll bring it back. We definitely have a lot of opportunities and we create opportunities for the entire world also. So the debt isn't a big deal nor does it worry me. Yea, if we kept getting into more debt on the same pace, I'd be worried 5 years from now. But this amount of debt is easily manageable within 2 years of fiscal control.

it is actually some difficult to understand what those empty words mean. I know a lot of americans are not as educated as they are supposed to be.

 

[Viper0011.]

it is actually some difficult to understand what those empty words mean. I know a lot of americans are not as educated as they are supposed to be.

We are the most hi-tech country on the planet, just wanted to remind you. That means, literacy. And I am sure we have Americans that are educated but don't have Master's degrees or some without Bachelor degrees. But I am also SURE that the ratio of such population compared to China is like 50% less....

 

[pher]

We are the most hi-tech country on the planet, just wanted to remind you. That means, literacy. And I am sure we have Americans that are educated but don't have Master's degrees or some without Bachelor degrees. But I am also SURE that the ratio of such population compared to China is like 50% less....

so what? every dog has its days. Don't assume the world history began from the existence of US.

Nowadays we are happy to see a declining america. there are too many powerful empires come and go in front of us. you are not the first one, and will not the last one either.

 

[Viper0011.]

Nowadays we are happy to see a declining america. there are too many powerful empires come and go in front of us. you are not the first one, and will not the last one either.

What you call "decline" is globalization. But you are using that term to project weakness. That won't be the case, no matter how many "powerful" countries start to pop up. How many other nations have plans to build a force of 11 CBG's??? Including your "powerful countries". The reality is ....these powerful countries are ONLY powerful at a regional level. The only global military is the US and the only Blue Water navy is ALSO the US. That ain't changing for the next 30 years atleast

 

[xunzi]

Nk has a luxurious lifestyle??? The country was piss poor .....and still is. But they are running the same way they did 5 years ago. Are you guys supplying fuel through Iran then?

I don't see how NK had any issues if you really imposed "sanctions" on them. You guys want to copy the US.....try imposing sanctions correctly as starters. By the way, your "barrel roll" have so much impact on us that we don't even send Escort fighters with our unarmed planes

I'm talking about the North Korea regime. Go check their geographic location. They either get fuel directly by land, the easiest way, or by sea lane which they have to cross thousand of miles to bring fuel into North Korea.

 

[xunzi]

Theres intercepting and then theres recklessness. Just like sending a Chinese ship in front of our warship. Did we do anything recklessness against your spy ship near Hawaii? No. Maybe you realize your mistake saying your respect the rules only when it applies to you.

China Says Spy Ship Operations at RIMPAC 'In Line With International Law' | Defense News | defensenews.com

BEIJING — Beijing has defended its dispatch of a spy ship to international waters off Hawaii, near where Chinese vessels are taking part in a US-led naval exercise for the first time, reports said Monday.

The defense ministry said the vessel’s activities are in line with international law, reported the Global Times, which is close to the ruling Communist Party.

Reports in the US quoted the US Navy saying that a Chinese surveillance vessel had been found operating near the location of the Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) naval exercises, viewed by analysts as one step toward potentially repairing ties at a time of heightened US-China tensions.

Four ships of the People’s Liberation Army Navy with an estimated 1,100 sailors on board — a missile destroyer, missile frigate, supply ship and hospital ship — are officially taking part in the RIMPAC exercises, which began last month.

But China and the US have found themselves increasingly at odds as Beijing seeks to assert its claim to disputed territory in the East and South China Seas and as Washington seeks to shore up its influence in the region.

China’s dispatch of the surveillance ship is a reminder that relations remain fraught between the Asian giant and western superpower.

“The People’s Liberation Army naval ships’ operation in waters outside the territorial seas of other countries is in line with international law and international practice,” the Chinese defense ministry statement said.

“The Chinese side respect the rights of maritime countries in accordance with international laws, but also wishes relevant countries could respect the rights Chinese ships are entitled to enjoy by law,” it added.

US officials have affirmed that the ship is operating legally.

China’s RIMPAC Spying: Having Your Cake and Eating It Too | The Diplomat

Despite hopeful comments by U.S. military officials, China’s sending a naval vessel to spy on the international RIMPAC exercises near Hawaii does not indicate a tacit recognition that similar U.S. operations near China are legal. Instead, a Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman complained Thursday that such U.S. reconnaissance missions “severely compromise China’s national security.”

As Zach wrote earlier this week on the Flashpoints blog, Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, commander of U.S. Pacific Command, was remarkably upbeat about the revelation that a Chinese auxiliary general-intelligence ship was shadowing the RIMPAC drills within Hawaii’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ). Locklear saw the Chinese vessel’s presence as “an acceptance by the Chinese of what we’ve been saying to them for some time, [which] is that military operations and survey operations in another country’s EEZs … are within international law and are acceptable.” China has long protested U.S. surveillance missions within China’s EEZs, while the U.S. believes waters outside the 12 nautical mile territorial zone are international waters and thus fair game for surveillance missions. Because China sent a vessel to perform reconnaissance within Hawaii’s EEZ, Locklear was hopeful China had come around to the standard international interpretation.

However, a Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman made it clear that China’s position has not changed. Geng Yasheng, speaking at the ministry’s regular monthly press conference, defended the presence of China’s AGI vessel in the Hawaiian EEZ, saying that the vessel was acting in line with international law. “We hope the U.S. [will] respect the legitimate rights of the Chinese ship,” Geng said, and the U.S. navy has shown every indication of doing so.

Still, China’s position that its own ship is acting lawfully doesn’t seem to have changed its dislike for similar actions by U.S. vessels. Geng objected to a comparison between the two: “The activities of the Chinese navy ship, no matter in terms of scope, frequency, or pattern, can not be compared to the U.S. ship and aircraft’s high intensity close-in reconnaissance against China.”

Chinese official have long listed U.S. surveillance missions as one of three factors limiting U.S.-China military relations (with the other two being U.S. arms sales to Taiwan and U.S. congressional restrictions on mil-to-mil interactions). In an indication that China will holds fast to this position, Geng argued that U.S. reconnaissance missions near China “severely compromise China’s national security and can easily trigger accidents at sea and in the air.” Indeed, recently China has seemed willing to cause such “accidents” by aggressively harassing U.S. ships that venture into its EEZ on surveillance missions, including the Victorious and the Impeccable in 2009, the George Washington in 2010, and the Impeccable again in 2013.

So it seems that China wants to both vigorously defend its right to conduct reconnaissance missions near the U.S. while also denying the U.S. the same right. But how? In his defense of the Chinese AGI ship’s operations near Hawaii, Geng emphasized that the mission “is in line with the international law and domestic law of the U.S.” The latter may hold the key to understanding China’s position, as Andrew S. Erickson and Emily de La Bruyere suggest in their analysis of China’s RIMPAC surveillance.
Erickson and de La Bruyere point out that China wants to use domestic laws to justify its seemingly contradictory stance. The U.S., which believes in free navigation, even for surveillance activities, within EEZs, has no domestic laws restricting such missions. China does. Thus Beijing can insist upon the legality of its operations near Hawaii based on U.S. domestic law, even while denying the U.S. the same right based on Chinese domestic law.

It is always your side of the story that is the truth, isn't it? How that goes with the Iraq false flag? Everyone, including the US public, believe in that false flag and your media propaganda help by painting a certain way that is favorable to the US neocon policy. Same wise, this incident is a direct bully from the US.

As far the ship spy incident, it was a rare occasion that we travel far and want to take a look at RIMPAC war game. Other than that, we rarely send spy boat or plane on US territories. You have been spying on us long enough. Don't you get tire? We feel very threaten by your action.

 

[Penguin]

That's why my English is par excellence!!

But it's not nice for a PDF 'Think Tank Analyst' not to display his country's flag under his avatar's mug shot.

Being in that exalted position, you need to set an example by adhering to the terms and conditions of PDF and the instructions given by Webby from time to time.

Thanks.

I never have had flag (There is a good reason for that, aside from Antarctica - where the Penguins live - having no flag ;-). Besides, the whole flags thing came long after I joined. And most folks here know it anyway.