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来自美国媒体有关中国的报道压倒性描述内容都是“中国威胁论”和“中国阴谋论”的论调,自从出了斯诺登,全世界都知道美国人才是世界上最大的窃贼,为什么美国的各种媒体、所谓智库没有问问本国政府,美国有没有偷看过我发给老婆的短信?美国出于老掉牙的思维和伪善的逻辑,既想从中国捞取好处,又怂恿自己的盟国维持对中国的武器禁运,楼主摘取的报道其思维逻辑就是,我们都不会卖给你这个,你这方面技术却出现了,那肯定是偷的?事实上,贼喊捉贼而已。

Aww that make sense and thanks for explaining.
 
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good news, more technology for china

China will use this same technology to opress your country and people in the future. Russia has no forces to stop Chinese hordes in the east.

Chinese attack and muslim uprising will be the end of all russian hegemony dreams.
 
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Actually, if you know where Indian artillery is heading. And how many things are trialing right now, you would know it's about to take a leap.

Where to an inferior reverse engineered bofor? Or foriegn companies offering their guns on indian trucks .. None of which under trials .. Or the us M series whose price has ballooned .. While it's production also closed ..?

Or the jugaado d-30 matted to an Arjun chasis ?
 
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Where to an inferior reverse engineered bofor?


Im sorry, how is it inferior to the original if it's caliber is increased and new electronics incorporated into the system?

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Or foriegn companies offering their guns on indian trucks


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Along with the platform and electronics, barrel, breach system, muzzle break from outside company will be homemade in the TATA example. if the others aren't, who cares anyways?

Indian artillery scene was completely blank 3 years ago, look where it's about to head.

155 mm/52 cal towed gun trials just ended as well.

http://www.janes.com/article/41065/indian-army-completes-self-propelled-howitzer-trials

Mounted 155 mm/52 cals

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Team Bharat Forge and Elbits

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Team TATA with Denel

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Team Ashok Leyland, L&T, and Nexter

Yeah, the amount of activity is amazing compared to what was going on 3 years ago. You even know this.

Not to mention the aggressiveness of Kalyani group.
 
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In a short period of time this has happened -

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L&T, Korean Team - Tracked 155 mm/52 cal program

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L&T, AL, French Team - Mounted Gun System 155 mm/52 cal program

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L&T, French Team - Towed Gun System 155 mm/52 cal program


This is from one company. And from a beast of a company called L&T. Not to mention other private beasts like Kalyani, TATA, etc, etc.
 
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Im sorry, how is it inferior to the original if it's caliber is increased and new electronics incorporated into the system?

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So you are happy to induct an inferior gun with an indian FCS?
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Along with the platform and electronics, barrel, breach system, muzzle break from outside company will be homemade in the TATA example. if the others aren't, who cares anyways?

Tata is a private company .. The foriegn company has offered these guns... and not into production.. just gun matted to a tata truck... and will remain so unless indian army buys it..

Indian artillery scene was completely blank 3 years ago, look where it's about to head.

D-30 on an arjun chasis...

In a short period of time this has happened -

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L&T, Korean Team - Tracked 155 mm/52 cal program

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L&T, AL, French Team - Mounted Gun System 155 mm/52 cal program

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L&T, French Team - Towed Gun System 155 mm/52 cal program


This is from one company. And from a beast of a company called L&T. Not to mention other private beasts like Kalyani, TATA, etc, etc.

Yeah sure... read above.
 
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Tata is a private company .. The foriegn company has offered these guns... and not into production.. just gun matted to a tata truck... and will remain so unless indian army buys it..

Thats temporary

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Read the board. It says with ToT it'll progressively make the barrels, breech systems and muzzle brakes in India.

I personally dont care if they buy guns off the shelf. But these systems will give experience to Indian companies and provide jobs.

Yeah sure... read above.

Read what above?

There was nothing going on at ALL for 20+ years because of the bofors scandal.

Now there are three programs - 155 mm/52 cal Mounted Gun System, Tracked, and towed programs. (among others)

All three of which being aggressively pursued by billion dollar Indian companies.

Larsen & Toubro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tata Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kalyani Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
etc
etc
etc

You'd be dumb to ignore what's happening in the Indian artillery game. Pakistan will be left in the dust.
 
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Thats temporary

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Its temporary just as this poster n offer.. none of which are proven.. the gun offered.. has india shown interested? negotiated the price? trials maybe?Nope.. just an offer ..

Also isnt it the Denel gun,.. which was black listed by india.. its an old poster i believe...

Read the board. It says with ToT it'll be progressively make the barrels, breech systems and muzzle brakes in India.

Dude first buy it.. alteast negotiate the price etc...


Now there are three programs - 155 mm/52 cal Mounted Gun System, Tracked, and towed programs.

All three of which being aggressively pursued by billion dollar Indian companies.

Larsen & Toubro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tata Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kalyani Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
etc
etc
etc

And none selected.. none tested.. all bs offers with foreign companies offering their guns on indian (private companies)trucks.. nothing solid except for display posters...

You'd be dumb to ignore what's happening in the Indian artillery game. Pakistan will be left in the dust.

Whats happening? an obsolete D-30 on an arjun body without any protection with inferior specs? an inferior reverse engin bofors under trials and offers from foreign firms?

As for leaving Pak in dust.. kiddo... atleast come on par with us.
 
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