Chinese Flanker Family: J-11, J-16 ... Su-27SK/UBK, Su-30MKK

LKJ86 · Apr 5, 2022

J-11BS

Via http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2022-04/05/content_10145530_2.htm

LKJ86 · Apr 7, 2022

J-16

Via 空军在线

LKJ86 · Apr 7, 2022

J-11B and J-11BS

Via http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2022-04/07/content_10146473.htm

LKJ86 · Apr 8, 2022

J-11BH and J-11BSH

Via @解放军报 from Weibo

Zibago · Apr 8, 2022

vi-va said:
Agree. Lack of precision ammunition due to budget and technology.

I fail to understand why would Russia have shortage of missiles

ozranger · Apr 8, 2022

Zibago said:
I fail to understand why would Russia have shortage of missiles

The relatively smaller economy scale, in comparison with China and America, makes key component manufacturing, especially those electronic components, over costly for the Russians. Same thing happens with the European countries. In the longer term, the US will also suffer the same as it will be much more expensive in the coming future for them to maintain productivity force which can only make weapons but civilian products, since their high end components for civilian use are less and less popular in the world market.

China is quite different to all of those. Every China's major arms maker is being backed by a massive component subcontracting network. All those subcontractors are also making large amount of components for civilian use. For example, electronic component suppliers in China develop various T/R modules made in shared and similar processes for either 5G base stations or AESA radars. Hence they can enjoy huge cost saving by sharing same R&D and manufacturing resources across civilian and military domains. That's also why they can make the Zhuhai Airshow look like a super market of missiles and smart munitions because high end components in China are highly affordable and approachable.

Zibago · Apr 9, 2022

ozranger said:
The relatively smaller economy scale, in comparison with China and America, makes key component manufacturing, especially those electronic components, over costly for the Russians. Same thing happens with the European countries. In the long term. the US will also suffer the same as it will be much more expensive in the coming future for them to maintain productivity force which can only make weapons but civilian products, since their high end components for civilian use are less and less popular in the world market.

China is quite different to all of those. Every China's major arms maker is being backed by a massive component subcontracting network. All those subcontractors are also making large amount of components for civilian use. For example, electronic component suppliers in China make various T/R modules made in shared and similar processes for either 5G base stations or AESA radars. Hence they can enjoy huge cost saving by sharing same R&D and manufacturing resources across civilian and military domains. That's also why they can make the Zhuhai Airshow look like a super market of missiles and smart munitions because high end components in China are highly affordable and approachable.

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They had such advanced assortment of strategic missiles I just assumed that they would have an easy time in manufacturing multiple lazer guided missiles for their airforce but apparently I this isn't the old Soviet Union anymore
Russia has nerfed its manufacturing capabilities out of sheer laziness and over reliance on oil